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Topic: Anti Cop Wacko's Have No Class At All!
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Fri 10/23/15 05:36 AM
Just two days after a career criminal allegedly gunned down NYPD officer Randolph Holder in East Harlem, and with his fellow cops still mourning, anti-police activists took to Times Square on Thursday to protest “police terror and murder.”

Holder’s murder on Tuesday night made him the fourth NYPD officer to die in the line of duty in the last year, which has also seen anti-police groups call for killing police. But the demonstrators who carried signs at 47th street and Broadway decrying “victims of police murder” seemed oblivious to the trauma felt throughout the city after Holder, an African-American and second-generation police officer, was killed trying to protect New Yorkers..

"People have had enough of the anti-cop protest, and it's time these people go get a job and find a different agenda," Sergeants Benevolent Association President Ed Mullins told FoxNews.com. "It's just the arrogance of the whole thing. This is a naysayer group. If there's a bit of intelligence put into any of this, they'd realize all their facts are incorrect."

Qiara Butler was at Thursday's Times Square rally holding a sign bearing the picture of her cousin Tyrone West. An autopsy determined West died of a heart condition that was exacerbated during an incident with Baltimore police in July 2013. Butler said she didn’t think the timing of the protest, which was planned before Holder’s murder, was an issue.

“Everyone out here is protesting for their family, so we’re in a constant state of mourning,” Butler told FoxNews.com. “We’ve been mourning since July 18th [2013] and no one ever stopped their daily routine for our mourning. So we deserve our time to mourn with the other families as well.”

Given the prevalence of “Black Lives Matter” signs at the event, including on one large, yellow cloth held by members of the so-called Granny Peace Brigade, Butler was asked if the life of Holder, who was black, also mattered.

“I would hope that his family realizes that his life is included in that ‘Black Lives Matter’ slogan,” she said. “We’re talking about black bodies being persecuted across the world.”

Though some of the demonstrators spoke of a more inclusive message, their regalia and posters told a different story.

One display featured a picture of Michael Brown next to a mocked-up “wanted poster” for Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Miss. police officer who shot Brown during an altercation in August 2014. Elsewhere, a man carried a black flag with the “anarchy” symbol drawn on it. Two small groups of police officers stood apart from the crowd and looked on as one man leaned into a microphone and called for “the whole justice system to be dismantled.”

“Nobody’s here saying anything bad about cops – we’re here talking about killer cops, holding killer cops responsible,” said Tawanda Jones, Tyrone West’s sister.

The three-day “National March to STOP Police Terror” on Thursday, Friday and Saturday is set to have events in numerous city spots, among them Washington Square Park and Bryant Park in Manhattan and a march to Barclay’s Center in Brooklyn later Thursday. The event was “initiated” by activists Dr. Cornel West and Carl Dix, a self-described revolutionary. Several high-profile “selected endorsers” for the event include former Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers, actors Ed Asner and Mark Ruffalo and singer Harry Belafonte.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/23/two-days-after-nypd-cop-gunned-down-anti-cop-rally-held-in-times-square/?intcmp=hpbt3

I was going to say I can't believe the city would allow this demonstration to take place, since you need permits in most cities for events like this but that's right this is Bill de Blasio's city he is running into the ground. I didn't think anyone could be worse then Bloomberg as New York City's mayor but boy was I wrong. Between this idiot and Bloomberg they have totally destroyed the city.

The city was so much better under Rudy Giuliani''s watch. Law Enforcement was given the resources they needed and weren't targeted or vilified. Mayor Giuliani also had a much tougher stance on crime.

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Fri 10/23/15 05:58 AM
3 Police Officers 14 days
(10-21-2015)

Police Officer
Randolph Holder
New York City Police Department, NY
EOW: October 20, 2015
Investigator

Steven Sandberg
Aitkin County Sheriff's Office, MN
EOW: October 18, 2015
Police Officer

Anthony Lossiah
Cherokee Indian Police Department, TR
EOW: October 6, 2015
Police Officer

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� 2015 ~ The Officer Down Memorial Page

http://www.odmp.org/search/year/

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Fri 10/23/15 07:43 AM
One display featured a picture of Michael Brown
next to a mocked-up “wanted poster” for
Darren Wilson,
Damn, they are dumb laugh


The real Mike Brown:


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Fri 10/23/15 08:59 AM
I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?


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Fri 10/23/15 09:05 AM

I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?




think about it more like bad cops protected by bad cops/bad judges... then you can see it a bit better

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Fri 10/23/15 09:25 AM
I know that, I just wanted to not give much chance to rubbish what I said before they consider why cops seem to get away with a lot of bad behaviour.

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Sat 10/24/15 01:30 AM

I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?

Reasonable questions. Moe hit the nail on the head, a system that allows killers to walk free because they wear a badge is wrong any way you cut it. I'm talking about cases where there was no 'justification' for the killing or level of force used that lead to death or serious injury. We are capable of fixing the 'problem' , obviously it'd take new bills/legislation/filibustering/vetoing/resubmission/case studies/possible government shutdown if the teapotty (so called 'Tea Party' I refuse to recognize since they are doing nothing but stopping the government from functioning as intended per our Constitution) has anything to do with it.
Every journey begins with a single step, Benjamin Franklin, now there has been a Federal push for body cameras and funding provided to facilitate the use but many cities have not or refuse blatantly to use body cameras. They don't want their hired hitmen identiftied like Ray Tensing, Randall Kerrick, Brad Miller, the list goes on.
For the umpteenth time Michael Brown committed a crimes. More than one in one day. But there is no reason no JUSTIFICATION for shooting an UNARMED suspect resisting being shot and or arrested IN THE HEAD THREE TIMES.

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Sat 10/24/15 02:20 AM

I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?




In general, the police are heroes who put their lives at risk protecting the public. To murder a hero is a big deal.

Of course, if a policeman murders a citizen, it is a big deal also but, generally speaking, the people the cops shoot are not heroes. They are usually scumbags shooting at the police.

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Sat 10/24/15 03:30 AM


I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?

Reasonable questions. Moe hit the nail on the head, a system that allows killers to walk free because they wear a badge is wrong any way you cut it. I'm talking about cases where there was no 'justification' for the killing or level of force used that lead to death or serious injury. We are capable of fixing the 'problem' , obviously it'd take new bills/legislation/filibustering/vetoing/resubmission/case studies/possible government shutdown if the teapotty (so called 'Tea Party' I refuse to recognize since they are doing nothing but stopping the government from functioning as intended per our Constitution) has anything to do with it.
Every journey begins with a single step, Benjamin Franklin, now there has been a Federal push for body cameras and funding provided to facilitate the use but many cities have not or refuse blatantly to use body cameras. They don't want their hired hitmen identiftied like Ray Tensing, Randall Kerrick, Brad Miller, the list goes on.
For the umpteenth time Michael Brown committed a crimes. More than one in one day. But there is no reason no JUSTIFICATION for shooting an UNARMED suspect resisting being shot and or arrested IN THE HEAD THREE TIMES.
still dispersing your Brown-Fibs,ain't you?

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Sat 10/24/15 04:09 AM



I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?

Reasonable questions. Moe hit the nail on the head, a system that allows killers to walk free because they wear a badge is wrong any way you cut it. I'm talking about cases where there was no 'justification' for the killing or level of force used that lead to death or serious injury. We are capable of fixing the 'problem' , obviously it'd take new bills/legislation/filibustering/vetoing/resubmission/case studies/possible government shutdown if the teapotty (so called 'Tea Party' I refuse to recognize since they are doing nothing but stopping the government from functioning as intended per our Constitution) has anything to do with it.
Every journey begins with a single step, Benjamin Franklin, now there has been a Federal push for body cameras and funding provided to facilitate the use but many cities have not or refuse blatantly to use body cameras. They don't want their hired hitmen identiftied like Ray Tensing, Randall Kerrick, Brad Miller, the list goes on.
For the umpteenth time Michael Brown committed a crimes. More than one in one day. But there is no reason no JUSTIFICATION for shooting an UNARMED suspect resisting being shot and or arrested IN THE HEAD THREE TIMES.
still dispersing your Brown-Fibs,ain't you?

He committed crimes, he was unarmed, WILSON aimed for the head, then shot him in the head 3 times.
What lie?
Would that be the unbiased witness video evidence that was disallowed in the case? Those witnesses were white, why was their video inadmissible?

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Sat 10/24/15 04:54 AM
LP,you said yourself the PEACEFUL protest was scheduled before the NYPD officer was killed in the line of duty.
You also said that one of the protesters was from Maryland which means she either had to make rereservations prior to the event or incident or at the least stay with friends or family if she had any in N.Y. Either way any foods drinks goods or services go into N.Y.'s economy and are taxed paying the NYPD salaries.

Ironic, isn't it? So the PEACEFUL protesters are out of line, but the police presence which would be increased for any such protest whether an officer had recently been killed or not, resulting in extra hours and overtime DIRECTLY supports the NYPD officers and their families isn't, is it?

These cops you speak of, would they be the ones who killed, excuse me, summarily executed the man in the wheelchair? Where 0 real visible video evidence shows that he had a gun or any wounds consistent with a self inflicted gsw?
Perhaps the gang of police that compressed Eric Garner's lungs until he suffocated beging for his life?
Or maybe the cop that shot the stranded motorist who had called a friend to fix or tow his car who turned out to be a church drummer.

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Sat 10/24/15 05:08 AM
What about the cops that threAtened to shoot the parents coming to pick up their children from schools in CT that was on lockdown for bonne threats all know those are bad cops giving good cops a bad name. Samuel Dubose and Freddy Gray are countered by Lt Gliniewicz and Deputy Goforths.they WERE serving and protecting.

NYC draws international attention the protest was a peaceful one so..........

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Sat 10/24/15 05:29 AM
asleep Half a cup of coffee & 2 baby aspirins ..isn't enough for this...same ol' same ol', this morning

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Sat 10/24/15 10:30 AM

I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?





I think I love you,,,lol

short answer, there seems to be a culture of thought that any 'criminal' deserves what they get, especially if they aren't 'obedient' enough to a cop

but cops never 'deserve' death, no matter what


so the criminals death is a byproduct of their choices, but a cops death never is on anyone but the criminal

,,,,,basically



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Sat 10/24/15 10:32 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 10/24/15 10:35 AM


I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?




In general, the police are heroes who put their lives at risk protecting the public. To murder a hero is a big deal.

Of course, if a policeman murders a citizen, it is a big deal also but, generally speaking, the people the cops shoot are not heroes. They are usually scumbags shooting at the police.


your job doesn't make you a hero,, your actions do


I personally don't consider one a hero when they are doing something they are PAID to do

a hero, to me, risks their life at NO BENEFIT to themselves

and in any case

not all who wear a badge carry themselves the same way or do the same things



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Sat 10/24/15 10:58 AM



I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?




In general, the police are heroes who put their lives at risk protecting the public. To murder a hero is a big deal.

Of course, if a policeman murders a citizen, it is a big deal also but, generally speaking, the people the cops shoot are not heroes. They are usually scumbags shooting at the police.


your job doesn't make you a hero,, your actions do


I personally don't consider one a hero when they are doing something they are PAID to do

a hero, to me, risks their life at NO BENEFIT to themselves

and in any case

not all who wear a badge carry themselves the same way or do the same things



So, Michael Brown was a hero?

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Sat 10/24/15 11:02 AM




I am from the UK, so forgive me if I dont understand the US situation.

I understand police are people, but citizens are people too. If a policeman is murdered by a citizen then it is bad, but if a citizen is murdered by a policeman it is surely equally as bad.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?

Unfortunatly a bad cop seems to be protected by good cops and by good judges. Why is a bad cop not 'hung out to dry' by his/her peers so the organisation as a whole as well as its individuals can gain trust, integrity and move towards the ideal of no bad cops in the same way an ideal society has the minimal number of criminal citizens (which is surely why laws and police exist in our society)?




In general, the police are heroes who put their lives at risk protecting the public. To murder a hero is a big deal.

Of course, if a policeman murders a citizen, it is a big deal also but, generally speaking, the people the cops shoot are not heroes. They are usually scumbags shooting at the police.


your job doesn't make you a hero,, your actions do


I personally don't consider one a hero when they are doing something they are PAID to do

a hero, to me, risks their life at NO BENEFIT to themselves

and in any case

not all who wear a badge carry themselves the same way or do the same things



So, Michael Brown was a hero?


no, very few heroes out there,,,

that cop who is off duty and risks their life, or that john doe who works in a factory but runs in a burning building to save a cat

,,,,no benefit, all risk,, that's a hero to me

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Sat 10/24/15 11:22 AM
I don't trust any city police I have trust in the state police n sheriff. City police no way I trust one. Their reputation of being corrupt is well earned.

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Sat 10/24/15 11:56 AM

asleep Half a cup of coffee & 2 baby aspirins ..isn't enough for this...same ol' same ol', this morning

All that cutting and pasting is what's making you tired.

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Sat 10/24/15 12:09 PM


asleep Half a cup of coffee & 2 baby aspirins ..isn't enough for this...same ol' same ol', this morning

All that cutting and pasting is what's making you tired.


You already know my opinion on this same ol' same ol' .
Sorry if I was too tired to play ring around the rosey & not post to you this morning so we can repeat & repeat ourselves later.
Now , I am bored here. But I am sure some other Mingle munchkins will come out & play with you soon. Just have patience.


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