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Topic: Anti Cop Wacko's Have No Class At All!
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Sat 10/24/15 12:53 PM
Edited by NoCatfish2 on Sat 10/24/15 12:56 PM
Quoting a couple of different posters here, one of whom is perhaps just misinformed. The other apparently believes only what he or she wants to believe.

In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that?
Because a society that tolerates the murder of its protectors is doomed.

I know that, I just wanted to not give much chance to rubbish what I said before they consider why cops seem to get away with a lot of bad behaviour.
Please cite one case where a cop actually murdered someone, and "got away" with it. (And this is using the legal definition of murder, "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.")

He committed crimes, he was unarmed, WILSON aimed for the head, then shot him in the head 3 times.
Dr. Baden's autopsy, performed at the request of the Brown family, said he was shot in the head twice. I don't believe the separate autopsy ordered by the Justice Dept. had any different results.
You seem to conveniently ignore this information, which is an excerpt from an article in the Washington Post: "The significance of this wound and related physical evidence is that it places Brown’s right hand within 6 to 9 inches of the barrel of Wilson’s firearm. This physical evidence is thus quite consistent with Wilson’s testimony that Brown was trying to get hold of Wilson’s weapon, creating a fear in Wilson that he was going to get shot. It also creates a problem for those who view Brown as having been somehow accosted by Wilson and was just trying to escape."
In a court of law, the underlined statement above would probably draw an objection of "assumes facts not in evidence," and the objection would probably be sustained. But when an assailant has his entire body inside the car, apparently trying to kill the driver of the car, what might you suggest as a "kinder, gentler" target? How about his big toe? Or maybe just fire a "warning shot" through the roof of the car to scare him away? whoa

Some of the previous replies read like the words of Armchair Experts who know all about how to do a job that they themselves wouldn't (and couldn't) do.

NoCatfish2's photo
Sat 10/24/15 12:59 PM
Edited by NoCatfish2 on Sat 10/24/15 01:00 PM
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Sat 10/24/15 01:08 PM
once again, because someone is PAID to protect does not mean that is always what they do

so someone can at the same time be a 'cop' and be committing 'bad behavior'(the actual quote , which didn't say unlawful killing or murder)


thus the term 'crooked cops',,,,they should be shunned and called on their BS , especially when it ends in an unarmed life being taken unnecessarily


and the teens hand being near the gun just reinforces that there was a close contact struggle in the car when the gun fired,, could be because the cop feared he would get his gun, could be because the teen feared the cop would get his gun too

but that is not when the teen was KILLED, so is kind of not a reason for him to be dead after he RAN



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Sat 10/24/15 02:14 PM
Edited by NoCatfish2 on Sat 10/24/15 02:18 PM

once again, because someone is PAID to protect does not mean that is always what they do
True, and they usually end up getting "jammed up" for it, and I don't mean just losing their job.

but that is not when the teen was KILLED, so is kind of not a reason for him to be dead after he RAN
Once again, "assumes facts not in evidence." The autopsies (plural) found that none of Brown's wounds were sustained while he was running away.

So the original post might well be asking what are we hearing from President Obama and Black Lives Matter and Sharpton, et al, about the murder of Officer Randolph Holder? (Holder was an immigrant from Guyana.)
I Googled it, and got this: "So what's a movement supposedly all about the importance of black lives to do when a black cop is murdered? Celebrate, of course -- which is exactly what some members of the Black Lives Matter movement did last night." http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/black-lives-matter-despicable-response-to-death-of-black-police-officer-speaks-volumes

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Sat 10/24/15 07:29 PM


once again, because someone is PAID to protect does not mean that is always what they do
True, and they usually end up getting "jammed up" for it, and I don't mean just losing their job.

but that is not when the teen was KILLED, so is kind of not a reason for him to be dead after he RAN
Once again, "assumes facts not in evidence." The autopsies (plural) found that none of Brown's wounds were sustained while he was running away.

So the original post might well be asking what are we hearing from President Obama and Black Lives Matter and Sharpton, et al, about the murder of Officer Randolph Holder? (Holder was an immigrant from Guyana.)
I Googled it, and got this: "So what's a movement supposedly all about the importance of black lives to do when a black cop is murdered? Celebrate, of course -- which is exactly what some members of the Black Lives Matter movement did last night." http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/black-lives-matter-despicable-response-to-death-of-black-police-officer-speaks-volumes



'some members' really means little except that individuals are individuals

the movement itself has a motivation and a mission which can usually be found in a resource presented BY THE leaders/founders of the movement


that black cop was killed by a criminal . so it will be dealt with,, both because it was a COP(inherent value), and because it was a CRIMINAL(no inherent value)

the issue is when it is the other way around, and those who are assumed to have an inherent value, like cops, kill those who society decides have none (criminals, alleged criminals, unarmed citizens not being obedient,,etce)



no photo
Wed 10/28/15 11:17 AM
Speaking of anti-cop whackos....


"" The Rev. Al Sharpton said Tuesday that he
won’t deliver a planned eulogy for slain NYPD
cop Randolph Holder — or even attend the
fallen hero’s funeral — after reading a Post
report about outrage among the NYPD’s rank
and file.
The exclusive report also revealed how
Holder’s fiancée, Mary Muhammad, said her
husband-to-be detested Sharpton and never
would have wanted the anti-cop activist at his
funeral.
“I saw your story, and I said, ‘Come on, this
is going to be a circus,’ ” Sharpton told The
Post.
“I had agreed to something I was asked, even
though I knew I was going to be criticized —
even by people on my side of the movement.”
In a letter to Holder’s grieving dad, Sharpton
said he wanted to “respectfully … inform you
and your pastor that I have withdrawn my
acceptance of your invitation to attend or have
words at the funeral services of your son” on
Wednesday.
“I thought my coming might give a sense of
unity in the city,” Sharpton says in the letter.
“It is clear though after reading several articles
that some union leaders and some others want
to turn your and your pastor’s noble efforts
into some kind of confrontation or sideshow
and not keep focused on the brutal, senseless
murder of your son.
“I refuse, despite my strong feelings on police
issues, to be part of anything that would
marginalize and take away from the focus of
this city and nation mourning your son
tomorrow.
“So I therefore, respectfully, want to inform
you and your pastor that I have withdrawn my
acceptance of your invitation to attend or have
words at the funeral services of your son
tomorrow.”
Holder’s step-mom, Princess Holder, ​​said
Tuesday that she was “delighted” that
Sharpton backed out of the service.
”It would have caused a lot of controversy,”
she said before heading to the slain cop’s
daylong wake.""
http://nypost.com/2015/10/27/sharpton-wont-deliver-eulogy-at-slain-cops-funeral/

no photo
Wed 10/28/15 11:38 AM

Speaking of anti-cop whackos....


"" The Rev. Al Sharpton said Tuesday that he
won’t deliver a planned eulogy for slain NYPD
cop Randolph Holder — or even attend the
fallen hero’s funeral — after reading a Post
report about outrage among the NYPD’s rank
and file.
The exclusive report also revealed how
Holder’s fiancée, Mary Muhammad, said her
husband-to-be detested Sharpton and never
would have wanted the anti-cop activist at his
funeral.
“I saw your story, and I said, ‘Come on, this
is going to be a circus,’ ” Sharpton told The
Post.
“I had agreed to something I was asked, even
though I knew I was going to be criticized —
even by people on my side of the movement.”
In a letter to Holder’s grieving dad, Sharpton
said he wanted to “respectfully … inform you
and your pastor that I have withdrawn my
acceptance of your invitation to attend or have
words at the funeral services of your son” on
Wednesday.
“I thought my coming might give a sense of
unity in the city,” Sharpton says in the letter.
“It is clear though after reading several articles
that some union leaders and some others want
to turn your and your pastor’s noble efforts
into some kind of confrontation or sideshow
and not keep focused on the brutal, senseless
murder of your son.
“I refuse, despite my strong feelings on police
issues, to be part of anything that would
marginalize and take away from the focus of
this city and nation mourning your son
tomorrow.
“So I therefore, respectfully, want to inform
you and your pastor that I have withdrawn my
acceptance of your invitation to attend or have
words at the funeral services of your son
tomorrow.”
Holder’s step-mom, Princess Holder, ​​said
Tuesday that she was “delighted” that
Sharpton backed out of the service.
”It would have caused a lot of controversy,”
she said before heading to the slain cop’s
daylong wake.""
http://nypost.com/2015/10/27/sharpton-wont-deliver-eulogy-at-slain-cops-funeral/


First off- His letter is a disgrace.
Does he have any formal education, or is a mail certified pastor, while he was in prison?

And why is he repeating himself? Guilt?

Well... At least the family of a fallen officer won't have a 3 ring Sharpton Circus.

Let's face it.. All hell would break loose if he did attend a cops funeral.. Even if the New York cop was black.

Controversy & inciting racial unrest is Sharpton's specialty. He would be lost & redundant without it & the cop haters.

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