Topic: Anti Cop Wacko's Have No Class At All! | |
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NoCatfish2
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Quoting a couple of different posters here, one of whom is perhaps just misinformed. The other apparently believes only what he or she wants to believe.
In both our countries the murder of a policeman (/woman) is somehow deemed more tragic or more worthy of report, or even more worthy of investigation than if a civilian is murdered by a policeman. Would you agree? Why is that? Because a society that tolerates the murder of its protectors is doomed.
I know that, I just wanted to not give much chance to rubbish what I said before they consider why cops seem to get away with a lot of bad behaviour. Please cite one case where a cop actually murdered someone, and "got away" with it. (And this is using the legal definition of murder, "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.")
He committed crimes, he was unarmed, WILSON aimed for the head, then shot him in the head 3 times. Dr. Baden's autopsy, performed at the request of the Brown family, said he was shot in the head twice. I don't believe the separate autopsy ordered by the Justice Dept. had any different results.
You seem to conveniently ignore this information, which is an excerpt from an article in the Washington Post: "The significance of this wound and related physical evidence is that it places Brown’s right hand within 6 to 9 inches of the barrel of Wilson’s firearm. This physical evidence is thus quite consistent with Wilson’s testimony that Brown was trying to get hold of Wilson’s weapon, creating a fear in Wilson that he was going to get shot. It also creates a problem for those who view Brown as having been somehow accosted by Wilson and was just trying to escape." In a court of law, the underlined statement above would probably draw an objection of "assumes facts not in evidence," and the objection would probably be sustained. But when an assailant has his entire body inside the car, apparently trying to kill the driver of the car, what might you suggest as a "kinder, gentler" target? How about his big toe? Or maybe just fire a "warning shot" through the roof of the car to scare him away? Some of the previous replies read like the words of Armchair Experts who know all about how to do a job that they themselves wouldn't (and couldn't) do. |
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Edited by
NoCatfish2
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Sat 10/24/15 01:00 PM
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{Double post deleted by author.}
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once again, because someone is PAID to protect does not mean that is always what they do
so someone can at the same time be a 'cop' and be committing 'bad behavior'(the actual quote , which didn't say unlawful killing or murder) thus the term 'crooked cops',,,,they should be shunned and called on their BS , especially when it ends in an unarmed life being taken unnecessarily and the teens hand being near the gun just reinforces that there was a close contact struggle in the car when the gun fired,, could be because the cop feared he would get his gun, could be because the teen feared the cop would get his gun too but that is not when the teen was KILLED, so is kind of not a reason for him to be dead after he RAN |
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Edited by
NoCatfish2
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Sat 10/24/15 02:18 PM
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once again, because someone is PAID to protect does not mean that is always what they do but that is not when the teen was KILLED, so is kind of not a reason for him to be dead after he RAN Once again, "assumes facts not in evidence." The autopsies (plural) found that none of Brown's wounds were sustained while he was running away.
So the original post might well be asking what are we hearing from President Obama and Black Lives Matter and Sharpton, et al, about the murder of Officer Randolph Holder? (Holder was an immigrant from Guyana.) I Googled it, and got this: "So what's a movement supposedly all about the importance of black lives to do when a black cop is murdered? Celebrate, of course -- which is exactly what some members of the Black Lives Matter movement did last night." http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/black-lives-matter-despicable-response-to-death-of-black-police-officer-speaks-volumes |
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once again, because someone is PAID to protect does not mean that is always what they do but that is not when the teen was KILLED, so is kind of not a reason for him to be dead after he RAN Once again, "assumes facts not in evidence." The autopsies (plural) found that none of Brown's wounds were sustained while he was running away.
So the original post might well be asking what are we hearing from President Obama and Black Lives Matter and Sharpton, et al, about the murder of Officer Randolph Holder? (Holder was an immigrant from Guyana.) I Googled it, and got this: "So what's a movement supposedly all about the importance of black lives to do when a black cop is murdered? Celebrate, of course -- which is exactly what some members of the Black Lives Matter movement did last night." http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/black-lives-matter-despicable-response-to-death-of-black-police-officer-speaks-volumes 'some members' really means little except that individuals are individuals the movement itself has a motivation and a mission which can usually be found in a resource presented BY THE leaders/founders of the movement that black cop was killed by a criminal . so it will be dealt with,, both because it was a COP(inherent value), and because it was a CRIMINAL(no inherent value) the issue is when it is the other way around, and those who are assumed to have an inherent value, like cops, kill those who society decides have none (criminals, alleged criminals, unarmed citizens not being obedient,,etce) |
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Speaking of anti-cop whackos....
"" The Rev. Al Sharpton said Tuesday that he won’t deliver a planned eulogy for slain NYPD cop Randolph Holder — or even attend the fallen hero’s funeral — after reading a Post report about outrage among the NYPD’s rank and file. The exclusive report also revealed how Holder’s fiancée, Mary Muhammad, said her husband-to-be detested Sharpton and never would have wanted the anti-cop activist at his funeral. “I saw your story, and I said, ‘Come on, this is going to be a circus,’ ” Sharpton told The Post. “I had agreed to something I was asked, even though I knew I was going to be criticized — even by people on my side of the movement.” In a letter to Holder’s grieving dad, Sharpton said he wanted to “respectfully … inform you and your pastor that I have withdrawn my acceptance of your invitation to attend or have words at the funeral services of your son” on Wednesday. “I thought my coming might give a sense of unity in the city,” Sharpton says in the letter. “It is clear though after reading several articles that some union leaders and some others want to turn your and your pastor’s noble efforts into some kind of confrontation or sideshow and not keep focused on the brutal, senseless murder of your son. “I refuse, despite my strong feelings on police issues, to be part of anything that would marginalize and take away from the focus of this city and nation mourning your son tomorrow. “So I therefore, respectfully, want to inform you and your pastor that I have withdrawn my acceptance of your invitation to attend or have words at the funeral services of your son tomorrow.” Holder’s step-mom, Princess Holder, said Tuesday that she was “delighted” that Sharpton backed out of the service. ”It would have caused a lot of controversy,” she said before heading to the slain cop’s daylong wake."" http://nypost.com/2015/10/27/sharpton-wont-deliver-eulogy-at-slain-cops-funeral/ |
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Speaking of anti-cop whackos.... "" The Rev. Al Sharpton said Tuesday that he won’t deliver a planned eulogy for slain NYPD cop Randolph Holder — or even attend the fallen hero’s funeral — after reading a Post report about outrage among the NYPD’s rank and file. The exclusive report also revealed how Holder’s fiancée, Mary Muhammad, said her husband-to-be detested Sharpton and never would have wanted the anti-cop activist at his funeral. “I saw your story, and I said, ‘Come on, this is going to be a circus,’ ” Sharpton told The Post. “I had agreed to something I was asked, even though I knew I was going to be criticized — even by people on my side of the movement.” In a letter to Holder’s grieving dad, Sharpton said he wanted to “respectfully … inform you and your pastor that I have withdrawn my acceptance of your invitation to attend or have words at the funeral services of your son” on Wednesday. “I thought my coming might give a sense of unity in the city,” Sharpton says in the letter. “It is clear though after reading several articles that some union leaders and some others want to turn your and your pastor’s noble efforts into some kind of confrontation or sideshow and not keep focused on the brutal, senseless murder of your son. “I refuse, despite my strong feelings on police issues, to be part of anything that would marginalize and take away from the focus of this city and nation mourning your son tomorrow. “So I therefore, respectfully, want to inform you and your pastor that I have withdrawn my acceptance of your invitation to attend or have words at the funeral services of your son tomorrow.” Holder’s step-mom, Princess Holder, said Tuesday that she was “delighted” that Sharpton backed out of the service. ”It would have caused a lot of controversy,” she said before heading to the slain cop’s daylong wake."" http://nypost.com/2015/10/27/sharpton-wont-deliver-eulogy-at-slain-cops-funeral/ First off- His letter is a disgrace. Does he have any formal education, or is a mail certified pastor, while he was in prison? And why is he repeating himself? Guilt? Well... At least the family of a fallen officer won't have a 3 ring Sharpton Circus. Let's face it.. All hell would break loose if he did attend a cops funeral.. Even if the New York cop was black. Controversy & inciting racial unrest is Sharpton's specialty. He would be lost & redundant without it & the cop haters. |
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