You dont know basic firearms laws so I thought it best not to throw too much at you at once....didnt want that brain to explode. ...since, you know, youre so ignorant on our laws. But its ok, youre not a U.S. citizen so I dont expect you to know a damn thing.
I suggest you familarize yourself with ALL our laws before running your mouth off....hate seeing ya made a fool of.

P.S.

A bill is not a law...you didnt know that either, shocker....learn about how our laws are created also. (I also believe its a good bill. Why do you hate 2nd chances?)

As usual, keep posting and Ill keep chuckling at your failures
Sorry the U.S. has rented a room in your head full time. Its ok, we're used to it. When youre the best, theres always a target on your back.....you wouldnt know much about that....but hey, aint nothing wrong with being the lil guy. Be all you can be lil man!

Guns are not the problem....





But the Canadians may very well be.....

Naw Guns aren't the problem

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/the-gun-shouldnt-have-been-there-six-year-old-in-chicago-fatally-shoots-brother-playing-cops-and-robbers


Michael Santiago needed a gun.

He was a former gang member who had snitched on his old crew and now feared for his life. So Santiago purchased a pistol on the street and kept it in the kitchen just in case.

Whether he needed to show his six-year-old son the weapon, however, is something that will likely haunt Santiago for the rest of his life.

On Saturday night, Santiago’s security scheme went horribly wrong when his six-year-old son found the loaded gun. The boy, who has not been named by police, then began playing “cops and robbers” with his younger brother, 3-year-old Eian, when the gun suddenly went off.

The bullet struck Eian in the face, killing him.


In the most recent case, however, it is the father who had been charged with a crime. Santiago, 25, has been charged with felony child endangerment for allegedly showing his eldest son where he kept the unprotected pistol.

The family tragedy was set into motion when Santiago bought the weapon that would tear his own family apart.

Santiago was once a member of the Spanish Cobras, the second largest Latino gang on Chicago’s North Side, but he had gone straight by testifying against one of his former Cobra colleagues.

“In a videotape statement the defendant said he kept the gun for protection because he was a former gang member who snitched on a gang member in a murder trial,” prosecutor Joseph DiBella told a Cook County criminal courtroom on Sunday, according to the Chicago Tribune. Santiago bought a .32-caliber Smith & Wesson revolver from one of his Cobra connections.

Chicago Police
Chicago PoliceMichael Santiago said he kept the gun for protection,
But if Santiago was worried about protection, he was looking for threats in the wrong places.

“The gun was purchased off the street,” DiBella said. “It was kept loaded, and it was wrapped in pajama pants on top of the refrigerator.”

If that wasn’t insecure enough, Santiago allegedly decided to show his eldest son the deadly weapon.

“About a week prior to the shooting, he showed his older son where he kept the gun,” DiBella told the court, according to the Tribune. “[Santiago] took the gun from on top of the refrigerator, unwrapped the pajama pants and explained to the 6-year-old that the gun was only to be used by adults.”

Apparently the boy didn’t get the message.

On Saturday night at around 9 p.m., while Santiago was managing Papa Ray’s Pizza restaurant and his wife was at the grocery store, the boy climbed up to the top of the refrigerator. He and his younger brother, Eian, were playing cops and robbers.

They needed a gun.

The boy pointed the pistol at his brother and pulled the trigger. The bullet struck Eian in the face as he was eating mac and cheese, according to the New York Daily News.

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GofundmeA screen grab from the Gofundme campaign
The boys’ grandfather was the only adult at home to hear the shot. When the mother learned of the shooting, she called Santiago at work.

“He was in shock,” family friend George Rayyan told the Daily News. “He couldn’t understand his wife, she was crying so much.”

Santiago thought the refrigerator was too tall for his children to reach the handgun, Rayyan said: “He said in his eyes, that was the best spot, on the back of the fridge, because the kids couldn’t find it.”

“The gun shouldn’t have been there,” he added, “but everyone makes mistakes.”

“Confused why god chose such a young innocent kid is all that’s going through my head,” Rayyan wrote on a GoFundMe page he set up for the Santiagos after the shooting.

Police, however, have not been so forgiving: in the eyes of the law, it’s Santiago, not the Lord our savior, who is at fault.

According to DiBella, the prosecutor, Santiago has confessed on camera to showing his six-year-old son the gun and where it was kept. Authorities have charged him with felony endangerment of a child. If convicted, he could spend between two and 10 years in prison.

He said in his eyes, that was the best spot, on the back of the fridge, because the kids couldn’t find it
On Sunday, Santiago wiped back tears as DiBella recounted the child-on-child shooting, according to the Tribune. The prosecutor asked for a $1 million bail, drawing gasps of disbelief from Santiago’s family, the Tribune reported. But Judge James Brown took pity on Santiago after his attorney asked for a lower bond so the father could be with his grieving family.

“This is the ultimate tragedy,” Brown said, according to the Tribune. “And whether I said a $1 million bond or a lower bond, it’s not going to bring back this child.

“I’m sure the defendant did not intend for this to happen, but it happened,” Brown added, before lowering the bail to $75,000. “And it’s what happens when people have guns who shouldn’t have guns. That’s why we’ve had 2,300 people shot in Chicago so far this year.”

Brown wasn’t the only person to connect the child’s death to the broader issue of crime in Chicago.

The city, which has long battled gang violence, has seen a surge in shootings this year. Last month was the deadliest September in 13 years, with at least 60 homicides, according to the Tribune. Weekends with at least 50 people shot are becoming routine. And there have been 2,439 shootings in Chicago so far this year, nearly as many as the 2,587 all of last year, according to the Tribune’s “Crime in Chicagoland” Web site.

Santiago’s wife, Angie Lasalle, said her husband felt compelled to buy the gun because of crime in their Humboldt Park neighborhood.

If there is any silver lining to the story, it is that Eian’s older brother apparently doesn’t understand the full horror of what happened.

“He’s OK,” the boy’s grandfather, Hector Salgado, said of the six-year-old shooter. “He doesn’t even remember.

“He doesn’t know nothing about it,” Salgado told the Tribune. “He thinks his brother is in the hospital sick.”

everything you just posted shows how gun laws don't work... now if everyone had a gun, give one out like SS numbers, the cowardly gangsters would think twice about pulling their gun out...


they call it a level playing field...

What about friendly Canadian visitors visiting?

we'll protect you...

I'm sure you will!

that's just stupid...

nobody can possibly know that that's true... people get shot all the time, and once they're dead, there is no way of knowing why they were doing what they were doing...

WTF?

fully armed loser heading to a high school to cause carnage, gets shot and killed by a civilian on the way? Ridiculous!


NOT ONE mass shooting suspect stopped by a gun carrying civilian, fact!

you know,trying to reason with that Guy is like trying to eat JELLO with Chopsticks!

i say that about libtards every day...

http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/

you can't throw truths at libtards, it scares them...

The controversial Times.... riiiiight

seemed like most of those shooters took the lives of the people they wanted already, in one instance, the guy had time to go to his vehicle to retrieve his weapon? In his car? In the glovebox?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/04/how-often-do-children-in-the-u-s-unintentionally-shoot-and-kill-people-we-dont-know/


After a 9-year-old girl in Arizona accidentally shot and killed her shooting range instructor with an Uzi last week, it raised what would appear to be a fairly obvious question: How often do children in the United States — where unintentional or accidental shootings occur with some frequency — fatally shoot people by accident?

The answer: We don’t actually know for sure. At least that’s what the people and agencies tracking this topic say.

“We know how many times children die each year as a result of gun deaths,” Jon S. Vernick, co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, said in an interview last week. “We don’t know how many times children pull the trigger and someone dies.”

Vernick said the data is out there, but it has not been pulled together or compiled by anyone.

Agencies that compile statistics regarding shooting deaths told The Post that while they have data on many aspects of shooting deaths, this figure was unavailable. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that there is no nationwide data regarding the age of the person who pulls the trigger in an unintentional shooting. The Justice Department offered a similar response. “We do not have any statistics available regarding this topic,” a statistician with the Bureau of Justice Statistics wrote in an e-mail last week.

Some details regarding gun deaths are known, collected and reported. We know how many gun deaths occur in a given year, which makes sense, because when people are shot and killed, there are death certificates and there are reports by medical examiners, and national reports can conclusively come up with a number. (There were 32,351 such deaths in 2011, according to the CDC.) We know how many gun deaths were declared accidental (591 in 2011, the CDC says). And we know that 102 people killed in these accidental gun deaths in 2011 were younger than 18, according to Vernick, with half of these children younger than age 13.

But when you try to look into how many of the people pulling the trigger in accidental gun deaths were also children, you run into a problem.


When children unintentionally shoot themselves or other people, media reports typically follow. A three-year-old boy is playing with a gun and shoots himself in the face. A four-year-old girl discovers a gun and shoots her four-year-old cousin, killing him. A three-year-old boy shoots himself in the head. A five-year-old accidentally shoots a three-year-old girl. A five-year-old boy accidentally shoots and kills himself. A four-year-old boy accidentally shoots himself. A two-year-old boy shoots and kills his 11-year-old sister. It goes on like this, story after story of unintentional shootings involving children that lead to injuries or deaths. (Many unintentional shootings of children occur when they are with people of similar ages, Vernick said, though many also involve children by themselves.)

The National Violent Death Reporting System (NVDRS), which the CDC launched in 2002, does combine data from death certificates, medical examiner reports and law enforcement reports to try to produce this type of information. However, this system currently only operates in 18 states, so the numbers it offers are not national and the CDC cautions that the data should not be viewed as nationally representative. Still, it offers some information: Across the 17 states the NVDRS has data for from 2011, there were 11 unintentional firearm deaths that year in which the person pulling the trigger was age 14 or younger.

In addition to uncertainty regarding how many children accidentally shoot and kill people, the overall number of accidental gun deaths may also be incomplete. The CDC’s numbers, available through the National Center for Health Statistics, are collected from a mortality database that includes causes of death as determined by medical examiners, coroners and attending physicians. Yet this, again, is not foolproof. Medical examiners may say that a shooting death that appears to be unintentional was a homicide or say the cause cannot be determined, which is a separate category.

Vernick offered an example of what would appear to be an unintentional shooting: A teenager is playing with a gun that he thinks is empty pulls the trigger, shooting and killing another teenager. In this case, such a death could actually be deemed a homicide, since the teen intentionally pulled the trigger, even if there was no intent to actually fire a bullet.

“We know with precision the number of gun deaths,” Vernick said. “What we don’t know is all of the characteristics of those deaths that we’d like to know.”


An investigation carried out by the New York Times last year found significantly more accidental killings involving children (age 14 and younger) than had been reported in eight states. That investigation showed that medical examiners could issue wildly inconsistent rulings, even deeming accidental self-inflicted shootings to be homicides.

“I try to tell people when they look at the accidental data, particularly for children, you have to recognize it’s an underestimate,” Bob Anderson, head of the mortality statistics branch at the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told the Times.

Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said that nine children are unintentionally shot each day in the U.S. He said that the Arizona accident, while “a terrible tragedy,” was also an outlier, because it involved an Uzi and a shooting range.

“This is not a problem that leads to thousands of deaths across our country every year,” Gross said. “The bigger problem of kids having unsafe access to guns is.”

Gun advocates said in interviews after the Uzi incident that there are benefits to teaching young children to shoot certain guns. However, some still questioned allowing such a small child handle a gun as powerful as the Uzi, which can fire hundreds of bullets at a time. “I just don’t think a kid has any business with a weapon like that,” said Nancy Lichtman, 43, who views shooting guns as a wholesome family activity. Her adult daughter and teenage son both shoot regularly.

Meanwhile, while federal law states that people younger than 18 cannot possess a handgun (albeit with exceptions including target practice), there is no federal minimum age for possessing a long gun like a shotgun or a rifle, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. And most states do not set a minimum age for possessing a long gun; 30 states do not have a minimum age for this, including Arizona, where the shooting range instructor was killed.

The fact that we don’t know the number of times a child has accidentally shot and killed someone is an odd gray area, particularly given how even the staunchest guns advocates seem to agree about the importance of storing guns away from children. The National Rifle Association says on its Web site that it is a responsibility of gun owners to store guns away from children, adding that parents with a gun must “absolutely ensure that it is inaccessible to a child.” (The NRA did not respond to a request for comment after the shooting death in Arizona.)

Researchers praise having access to more data, which can help show trends over time, guide decisions made on a local level or depict any movement after laws or policies are enacted. “To stop violent deaths, we must first understand all the facts,” the NVDRS site says. And there is also the issue of simply not knowing how many children may be impacted by being involved in an accidental shooting.


“There are two victims in this tragedy,” Shannon Watts, founder of the gun-control group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, said in an interview after the Arizona shooting range death. “There’s the instructor, but there’s also this poor nine-year-old girl who has to live the rest of her life knowing that because of an adult’s mistake, she has killed someone accidentally.”

well, they libtards have gun control in canadia, so you're safe... no reason for you to worry about the big bad man with a big bad gun to scare you...

Yea, Bigfoot will slap you up side the head with a Mackerel.

JELL-O