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A relative of mine recently decided to try hypno therapy because he has panic attacks. It seemed to help a bit and I listened to an interview that the therapist did with a "client" and as he sounded like an alright guy and the woman being interviewed said that she had overcome severe mental health problems and totally changed her life I agreed to give it a go as well.
I've had one session where he said that he wanted to clear stuff like feelings that I was holding on to and that were holding me back. Anyway, he's given that relative of mine a video to watch and I've just seen it myself and it's all about what these people are calling "the secret". They are obviously actors and they make a lot of claims about what this "secret" can do for you and tell their stories and reenact scenes from these events. It's all about the "law of atraction" and positive thinking. It has most of the trappings of a religion. You need to have faith and you basically have to pray for the things that you want and believe in them. One example that they gave was a guy that wanted to test if it really works, so he wished for a hundred thousand dollars. They claim that anything is possible if you use this secret. You just think about what you want and have the right emotions and you will atract it into your life somehow. They are even claiming that you can recover from physical illnesses and disabilities by doing it. I've got sight problems and their philosophy is that you somehow ask the universe for everything that you get, so according to them, I brought it upon myself and it's possible to cure myself with their techniques. Needless to say, I'm a bit suspicious about this. The video was a comercial. The hypno therapy or "life coaching" is expensive. It has all the hallmarks of a pyramid or ponzy scheme. People at the top saying that they made a lot of money etc out of it and selling it to others that can be told that they're not doing it properly and that it's still their fault somehow if it doesn't work for them. It seems like a lot of the techniques could be genuinely useful and I'm certainly not knocking positive thinking but this thing seems to involve embracing a philosophy and world view that's a bit far fetched and they just tend to use bits of popularised science (like saying that everything is energy) to legitimise it for the modern day and the emphasis is upon recieving, rather than giving. I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. Needless to say, I'm a bit cynical about it and I have tried "alternative" therapies and medicine before and even faith healers because you will try anything if you're desperate enough and hear about success stories. |
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i've heard of that book/video
mmm...sounds too good to be true if taken without a grain of salt. |
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A relative of mine recently decided to try hypno therapy because he has panic attacks. It seemed to help a bit and I listened to an interview that the therapist did with a "client" and as he sounded like an alright guy and the woman being interviewed said that she had overcome severe mental health problems and totally changed her life I agreed to give it a go as well. I've had one session where he said that he wanted to clear stuff like feelings that I was holding on to and that were holding me back. Anyway, he's given that relative of mine a video to watch and I've just seen it myself and it's all about what these people are calling "the secret". They are obviously actors and they make a lot of claims about what this "secret" can do for you and tell their stories and reenact scenes from these events. It's all about the "law of atraction" and positive thinking. It has most of the trappings of a religion. You need to have faith and you basically have to pray for the things that you want and believe in them. One example that they gave was a guy that wanted to test if it really works, so he wished for a hundred thousand dollars. They claim that anything is possible if you use this secret. You just think about what you want and have the right emotions and you will atract it into your life somehow. They are even claiming that you can recover from physical illnesses and disabilities by doing it. I've got sight problems and their philosophy is that you somehow ask the universe for everything that you get, so according to them, I brought it upon myself and it's possible to cure myself with their techniques. Needless to say, I'm a bit suspicious about this. The video was a comercial. The hypno therapy or "life coaching" is expensive. It has all the hallmarks of a pyramid or ponzy scheme. People at the top saying that they made a lot of money etc out of it and selling it to others that can be told that they're not doing it properly and that it's still their fault somehow if it doesn't work for them. It seems like a lot of the techniques could be genuinely useful and I'm certainly not knocking positive thinking but this thing seems to involve embracing a philosophy and world view that's a bit far fetched and they just tend to use bits of popularised science (like saying that everything is energy) to legitimise it for the modern day and the emphasis is upon recieving, rather than giving. I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. Needless to say, I'm a bit cynical about it and I have tried "alternative" therapies and medicine before and even faith healers because you will try anything if you're desperate enough and hear about success stories. |
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A relative of mine recently decided to try hypno therapy because he has panic attacks. It seemed to help a bit and I listened to an interview that the therapist did with a "client" and as he sounded like an alright guy and the woman being interviewed said that she had overcome severe mental health problems and totally changed her life I agreed to give it a go as well. I've had one session where he said that he wanted to clear stuff like feelings that I was holding on to and that were holding me back. Anyway, he's given that relative of mine a video to watch and I've just seen it myself and it's all about what these people are calling "the secret". They are obviously actors and they make a lot of claims about what this "secret" can do for you and tell their stories and reenact scenes from these events. It's all about the "law of atraction" and positive thinking. It has most of the trappings of a religion. You need to have faith and you basically have to pray for the things that you want and believe in them. One example that they gave was a guy that wanted to test if it really works, so he wished for a hundred thousand dollars. They claim that anything is possible if you use this secret. You just think about what you want and have the right emotions and you will atract it into your life somehow. They are even claiming that you can recover from physical illnesses and disabilities by doing it. I've got sight problems and their philosophy is that you somehow ask the universe for everything that you get, so according to them, I brought it upon myself and it's possible to cure myself with their techniques. Needless to say, I'm a bit suspicious about this. The video was a comercial. The hypno therapy or "life coaching" is expensive. It has all the hallmarks of a pyramid or ponzy scheme. People at the top saying that they made a lot of money etc out of it and selling it to others that can be told that they're not doing it properly and that it's still their fault somehow if it doesn't work for them. It seems like a lot of the techniques could be genuinely useful and I'm certainly not knocking positive thinking but this thing seems to involve embracing a philosophy and world view that's a bit far fetched and they just tend to use bits of popularised science (like saying that everything is energy) to legitimise it for the modern day and the emphasis is upon recieving, rather than giving. I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. Needless to say, I'm a bit cynical about it and I have tried "alternative" therapies and medicine before and even faith healers because you will try anything if you're desperate enough and hear about success stories. I would be very reluctant and advise caution to any form of hypnotism, a young woman close to where I live died some years ago after allowing herself to become hypnotised by a stagehypnotist during a night out. I am sure hypnotism works on some people, but my concerns are the possible side effects, it is possible to have caused a woman's death. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/in-the-courts-hypnotism-link-to-daughters-death-1139727.html |
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^ That is a bizarre and extreme case. Hypnotherapy has mixed reviews. It has been known to help many people. I don't subscribe to it though.
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I worked with a fellow who had cancer. The doctors gave up on treatment and sent him home to die. He went to a faith healer and came home cured. His color came back he was eating and putting on weight and looked good. He lasted about 6 weeks then died.
I would never underestimate the power of positive thinking. |
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Yeah. It seems apealing and seductive in a lot of ways. I even think that it's likely that physical problems that I've had could have been triggered by emotional stress that I had. I'm aware of my own emotional or psychological problems and want to feel more positive about the future and believe that it could be good and I know that I have to be more motivated and start seeing more solutions than obstacles and all of that.
It's just when these people tell you about things that really do seem out of a person's control that it really starts to sound like sheer superstition. There's a difference between someone wishing for a hundred K and then using the resources and ideas he already had to get it and somebody saying that they want to live in Germany and then their husband getting a job in Germany out of the blue. There does seem to be the caviat that you have to wish for something reasonable. I suppose that it's got to be something that I can really believe is possible and it has to be physically possible for the universe to give me it. They won't claim that an amputated leg will grow back but there is a story about a paralysed man that walked again on that video. The therapist did tell me to take a week and to email him and tell him how I'm getting on anyway. I'm really not sure about it and yes, the fact that money changes hands makes me cautious about it, when I might be more into it if it was free. I wasn't looking for miracles when I considered trying this thing and it seems great and even plausible that this guy has had success with people with serious issues and mental health problems but he's virtually saying that I can have anything I want and told me that he did help someone to recover from partial sight loss. I do not doubt that some illnesses and disabilities are just the result of psycological trauma and that the body is better at healing itself when you're feeling positive but part of this therapy seems to be asking patients what "secondary gains" you get out of staying as you are and because I told him that I tried to see some sort of upside or "silver lining" to it when I developed sight problems he tried to say that that had been the thought or wish that I had had, when it was after the fact. I just feel skeptical about it being a scam or a cult obviously and it seems like if you don't totally buy into it and have total faith you can't complain about it not working but that's actually quite a lot to ask. |
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Duttoneer
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Sun 07/26/15 12:59 PM
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Yeah. It seems apealing and seductive in a lot of ways. I even think that it's likely that physical problems that I've had could have been triggered by emotional stress that I had. I'm aware of my own emotional or psychological problems and want to feel more positive about the future and believe that it could be good and I know that I have to be more motivated and start seeing more solutions than obstacles and all of that. It's just when these people tell you about things that really do seem out of a person's control that it really starts to sound like sheer superstition. There's a difference between someone wishing for a hundred K and then using the resources and ideas he already had to get it and somebody saying that they want to live in Germany and then their husband getting a job in Germany out of the blue. There does seem to be the caviat that you have to wish for something reasonable. I suppose that it's got to be something that I can really believe is possible and it has to be physically possible for the universe to give me it. They won't claim that an amputated leg will grow back but there is a story about a paralysed man that walked again on that video. The therapist did tell me to take a week and to email him and tell him how I'm getting on anyway. I'm really not sure about it and yes, the fact that money changes hands makes me cautious about it, when I might be more into it if it was free. I wasn't looking for miracles when I considered trying this thing and it seems great and even plausible that this guy has had success with people with serious issues and mental health problems but he's virtually saying that I can have anything I want and told me that he did help someone to recover from partial sight loss. I do not doubt that some illnesses and disabilities are just the result of psycological trauma and that the body is better at healing itself when you're feeling positive but part of this therapy seems to be asking patients what "secondary gains" you get out of staying as you are and because I told him that I tried to see some sort of upside or "silver lining" to it when I developed sight problems he tried to say that that had been the thought or wish that I had had, when it was after the fact. I just feel skeptical about it being a scam or a cult obviously and it seems like if you don't totally buy into it and have total faith you can't complain about it not working but that's actually quite a lot to ask. I think you are right to hold some scepticism. Alternative medicines/treatments such as medical herbalism, acupuncture, hypnotherapy, do work at some level on some people in my opinion. The practitioners of these alternatives are making a living out of it, and these alternatives are sometimes claimed to be cure alls, maybe to give people hope as well as gain clients. I hope it works for you if you decide to proceed. |
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This stuff is evil laws of attraction very bad philosophy and theory saying people bring their luck on themselves
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when you have to go into your pocket to buy the "secrete"... its not a secrete.. its a commodity.
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it's all in the mind when it comes to panic disorder and anxiety.I know,I had it for years and it's gone
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Well, I have had problems myself with anxiety attacks and although I have that pretty much under control now and am not on medication it would be good if it was "gone" and there are just things that I find stressful, or I just don't do some things because I don't want to put myself in stressful situations, even though they may be challenges that I want to overcome in order to have a better life.
I don't expect this guy to give me any practical solutions and there's nobody else apart from my mother that even cares, so, after years of trying things to try to build a better life for myself I'm not very optomistic about the future and it often seems hopeless. I've had mostly bad experiences with charities and social workers because they don't really treat you like an individual, with individual needs and difficulties. They only offer one size fits all solutions and just want to get rid of you and close your case as quickly as possible. This sort of thing is different and the guy doesn't blame his clients if something he tries with them doesn't work and he recognises that different aproaches or techniques work for some people better than others. It was good for a change to hear somebody say that I had actually been right about a lot of things, rather than giving me a lot of patronising crap about how it's just me and saying that some of my concerns may be a bit irrational but not those ones. I want to feel empowered and what I got from charities and social workers had the opposite effect. Their aproach is to put you through ordeals and tell you that you just have to put up with stuff because you have a disability. In my case that "stuff" included harassment and it does for many disabled people. It's hard to feel optomistic and positive and see solutions, rather than more obstacles, when that's what it's like. I do feel like I've been stuck in a rut that I don't know how to get out of for a long time. I don't really feel like I can do it all on my own though and I would like to atract genuine friends into my life. |
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I have heard of secret and seen it in action by a lot of people.
Yes it works Cars Homes Family reunite Jobs |
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op I am not sure about what acupuncture can do ... but if they have that where u are and not to expensive try that ... and meditate each day and focus on one thing so your mind does not drift ... bring light into you from your head to your feet ... let the flow of light go through help heal your body ... like a cleansing ... stay open arms out and do not cross your legs ... relax ... see if that helps be positive as the light is taking away your problems... and be thankful of what you have now ... go to the library all kinds of thing on self help you do not have to buy ...they may even have secrets or could get it for you ... does not hurt to ask ... be well ...
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The problem with "the secret" is it's affirmation of things...but unrealistic things that don't really offer much backup except your beliefs... like ...I will be 6ft tall...um no you are not. I am skinny...um no you are not. The way to make affirmations work for you is to follow through with it using commitment. Just for the skinny example: Try saying I am committed to lose 40lb by XX date and in order to achieve that I will run 6 days a weeks for XX amount of time. The more specific you are the more clarity you have in achieving your goal. You gotta gave a road map! Just like saying you wanna be a millionaire...sure we all do...but what are you gonna do to get you there. Affirmations are great but choose the right one with a map to achieve it.
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btw that's a Hal Elrod thing. lol http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/246869
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