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Topic: It's time to give Israel the means to take out Iranian nuk
LTme Joined Mon 05/25/15 Posts: 363	Tue 05/26/15 10:40 AM
"Iran used to be a stronger ally than Israel until we imposed a dictator on them that robbed them blind and tried to destroy their Muslim principles in favor of western capitalism and ideologies." SS Thank you for mentioning our CIA's leveraged ouster of Iran's duly elected Mossadegh SS. I agree. The U.S. turned down a dark path by installing the Shah, and it seems we've been on that Machiavellian path ever since (to one degree or another). "Seems to be our "method of peace and democracy" in the world. Making more enemies than friends in favor of our biggest exports......weapons and the wars they fuel for corporate profits" SS You make a painfully sharp point here SS. We kill people without trial, with predator drone strikes, and have enraged the Peoples in whose lands we do so. The Pakistanis are furious with U.S., and rightly so. And while we're changing regimes, and murdering people without trial, China is making friends building roads, digging wells for fresh water supply, to help those, in Africa for example, avoid diseases that are rare to nonexistent here; simple waterborne diseases. We're waging Wars, and making enemies at enormous cost. While China is making friends, at a fraction of the cost. "Houston! We have a problem!" Apollo 13 [this is #3 for LT]

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 05/26/15 11:26 AM
"Iran used to be a stronger ally than Israel until we imposed a dictator on them that robbed them blind and tried to destroy their Muslim principles in favor of western capitalism and ideologies." SS Thank you for mentioning our CIA's leveraged ouster of Iran's duly elected Mossadegh SS. I agree. The U.S. turned down a dark path by installing the Shah, and it seems we've been on that Machiavellian path ever since (to one degree or another). "Seems to be our "method of peace and democracy" in the world. Making more enemies than friends in favor of our biggest exports......weapons and the wars they fuel for corporate profits" SS You make a painfully sharp point here SS. We kill people without trial, with predator drone strikes, and have enraged the Peoples in whose lands we do so. The Pakistanis are furious with U.S., and rightly so. And while we're changing regimes, and murdering people without trial, China is making friends building roads, digging wells for fresh water supply, to help those, in Africa for example, avoid diseases that are rare to nonexistent here; simple waterborne diseases. We're waging Wars, and making enemies at enormous cost. While China is making friends, at a fraction of the cost. "Houston! We have a problem!" Apollo 13 [this is #3 for LT] not so fast on Mossy! http://noiri.blogspot.ch/2007/12/truth-behind-cia-coup-against-mossadegh.html

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Tue 05/26/15 11:32 AM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 05/26/15 11:50 AM
"Iran used to be a stronger ally than Israel until we imposed a dictator on them that robbed them blind and tried to destroy their Muslim principles in favor of western capitalism and ideologies." SS Thank you for mentioning our CIA's leveraged ouster of Iran's duly elected Mossadegh SS. I agree. The U.S. turned down a dark path by installing the Shah, and it seems we've been on that Machiavellian path ever since (to one degree or another). "Seems to be our "method of peace and democracy" in the world. Making more enemies than friends in favor of our biggest exports......weapons and the wars they fuel for corporate profits" SS You make a painfully sharp point here SS. We kill people without trial, with predator drone strikes, and have enraged the Peoples in whose lands we do so. The Pakistanis are furious with U.S., and rightly so. And while we're changing regimes, and murdering people without trial, China is making friends building roads, digging wells for fresh water supply, to help those, in Africa for example, avoid diseases that are rare to nonexistent here; simple waterborne diseases. We're waging Wars, and making enemies at enormous cost. While China is making friends, at a fraction of the cost. "Houston! We have a problem!" Apollo 13 [this is #3 for LT] not so fast on Mossy! http://noiri.blogspot.ch/2007/12/truth-behind-cia-coup-against-mossadegh.html The point Con was that he was duly elected and we didn't like the results of his nations choice.... so we framed him....true or not.... for an outcome more fitting to our corporate desires and agenda. Basiclly, to fit a world banker and corporate agenda..... that came back to bite us in the end. Of course we and the Shah had milked them pretty good by the time the people (led by the Khomeini religious factions) held their little rebellion and became the nation we are supposed to loathe today Just like Marcos, Noriaga, Morsi, Gaddafi, Saddam, and so many others........ Not a very good history on our part

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 05/26/15 11:39 AM
"Iran used to be a stronger ally than Israel until we imposed a dictator on them that robbed them blind and tried to destroy their Muslim principles in favor of western capitalism and ideologies." SS Thank you for mentioning our CIA's leveraged ouster of Iran's duly elected Mossadegh SS. I agree. The U.S. turned down a dark path by installing the Shah, and it seems we've been on that Machiavellian path ever since (to one degree or another). "Seems to be our "method of peace and democracy" in the world. Making more enemies than friends in favor of our biggest exports......weapons and the wars they fuel for corporate profits" SS You make a painfully sharp point here SS. We kill people without trial, with predator drone strikes, and have enraged the Peoples in whose lands we do so. The Pakistanis are furious with U.S., and rightly so. And while we're changing regimes, and murdering people without trial, China is making friends building roads, digging wells for fresh water supply, to help those, in Africa for example, avoid diseases that are rare to nonexistent here; simple waterborne diseases. We're waging Wars, and making enemies at enormous cost. While China is making friends, at a fraction of the cost. "Houston! We have a problem!" Apollo 13 [this is #3 for LT] not so fast on Mossy! http://noiri.blogspot.ch/2007/12/truth-behind-cia-coup-against-mossadegh.html The point Con was that he was duly elected and we didn't like the results of his nations choice.... so we framed him....true or not.... for an outcome more fitting to our corporate desires and agenda. Basiclly, to fit a world banker and corporate agenda..... that came back to bite us in the end. Of course we and the Shah had milked them pretty good by the time the people (led by the Khomeini religious factions) held their little rebellion and became the nation we are supposed to loathe today Just like Marcos, Noreaga, Saddam, and so many others........ Not a very good history on our part actually he was the Usurper,trying to get a Position which wasn't his to get! You Guys for once were correct in taking someone out!

LTme Joined Mon 05/25/15 Posts: 363	Tue 05/26/15 11:44 AM
"not so fast on Mossy!" C7 Thanks for the link C7. But due to bandwidth limitations, I don't follow every link. You're welcome to post a teaser quotation. If it's relevant, and informative, I may then check it out. Over decades of experience, the vast majority of the time, it is not one or the other, and sometimes is neither. SS is precisely right, and well stated SS. We never should have done that, and President Truman knew it, and refused. When the CIA bounced it off the newly elected President Eisenhower, Ike like. The rest is history. We're still paying the price today. We should NOT be making enemies in the community of nations. We should be making friends. We should not be proving ourselves treacherous, dangerous. We should be beloved, trusted, and perhaps even protected.