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| Topic: Women should be paid to get married. | |
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Dry but accurate logic: If what a woman wants is to be thought of and dealt with as property, or as an employee, then yes, she should be paid as such. If instead, she wants to be thought of as an equal partner in life, then just as in business, no one pays anyone, and the partners team up and take on the risks and rewards together. Same for men, of course. ^This I am married and my wife and I both work. I make about double what she makes. However, we put our money together. We discuss anything outside of normal spending. I do all our investing as she doesn't know anything about it and trusts me with it. We share chores at home. We share the cooking as well. This is the way we think it should be done. |
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It's very rare to work. :(
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How about the man gives birth, breastfeeds, cooks cleans, takes care of the baby? Staying home is not enough for a man to take my place. It's easier to go out and work, I know I've done it all, I'm only saying a man should do something for his child and the mother of his child. While I take care of all unpaid work he should get paid work, it's not rocket science to see it's more than fair for him. Estelle, For whatever reason you chose a man to be in your life that according to you does nothing for you or his child and according to you works all of 4 days per month. If that is true I would label him as a loser. But again, that was your choice. Your decision. Why you made that choice is anyone guess... but you did. You chose to have this type person in your life And now you have gone on a never ending tirade of men in general. Somehow we all got lumped into your bad decision. Your bad decision, Estelle.. not a entire genders bad decision... yours But you are still there.. still in that situation.. a little strange.. wouldn't you say? makes one wonder if we're only hearing a very skewed version of the true story I am sure we would all have a few "oh... really!!" comments if we heard from the other side of the coin... no doubt |
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Oh bulls@!t, I expect a dowry of at least two cows. 
I've been called a silly cow and a daft cow - does that count as two cows? |
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payment for services rendered?
how do you put a price on that? is it an hourly rate? monthly salary? for which services? does that include getting paid for sexual favors? kinda makes it look like something shady? there are many jobs where people get paid for the services of taking care of a house and children. nannies or au pair get paid for child care. even day care provider. domestic help, housekeeper, maid services get paid to clean and cook. chefs, cooks or kitchen help get paid for that aspect. home health caregivers get paid for duties assigned as necessary to the client needs. when I did this, it included light housekeeping, some cooking, maybe light gardening, as well as therapy for the client and assistance with dressing or whatever. there was a written contract about pay for services rendered. it's cold and unemotional. what makes someone worth keeping goes beyond the words on the contract. you can't put a price on human caring and interaction. every one of my clients and their family liked having me around. why? because I care about the person. because it wasn't just about a paycheck to me. while dusting the furniture, I would make conversation with my person, usually elderly people. my companionship was for free. getting to know about them and their life was done just because. words of encouragement were given because I care. not because it was written into any contract. I can't speak for all types of jobs, but in the world of home health care, the people who don't get called often are the ones who only follow the contract. those who do a job like an automated robot without connecting with the person, those were kind of off putting and didn't get called for work often. nobody really wanted to be around them. |
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payment for services rendered? how do you put a price on that? is it an hourly rate? monthly salary? for which services? does that include getting paid for sexual favors? kinda makes it look like something shady? there are many jobs where people get paid for the services of taking care of a house and children. nannies or au pair get paid for child care. even day care provider. domestic help, housekeeper, maid services get paid to clean and cook. chefs, cooks or kitchen help get paid for that aspect. home health caregivers get paid for duties assigned as necessary to the client needs. when I did this, it included light housekeeping, some cooking, maybe light gardening, as well as therapy for the client and assistance with dressing or whatever. there was a written contract about pay for services rendered. it's cold and unemotional. what makes someone worth keeping goes beyond the words on the contract. you can't put a price on human caring and interaction. every one of my clients and their family liked having me around. why? because I care about the person. because it wasn't just about a paycheck to me. while dusting the furniture, I would make conversation with my person, usually elderly people. my companionship was for free. getting to know about them and their life was done just because. words of encouragement were given because I care. not because it was written into any contract. I can't speak for all types of jobs, but in the world of home health care, the people who don't get called often are the ones who only follow the contract. those who do a job like an automated robot without connecting with the person, those were kind of off putting and didn't get called for work often. nobody really wanted to be around them. I agree. I could get my house cleaned, laundry done, etc for much less than half of my income. Not to mention having to also pay their living expenses. If that is what you reasoning is to get married it is wrong IMO. |
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