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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Sat 04/18/15 04:52 PM
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then 'they' deserve what they get,, few would buy fast food at an unreasonable price, its not the workers who shouldn't be so highly valued, its the food Tell that to Starbucks starbucks isnt fast food, its coffee, different type of product Same correlation! Just coffee that can be prepared at home yet over priced..... and people still buy it rather than making it themselves thats true difference is people buy starbucks for the STATUS of the name,, mcdonalds only status is that its cheap once its no longer cheap,, no longer a reason to patronize the business Haven't eaten at Mickey D's for a while have you? Nothing cheap about their slop! A couple burgers, fries and soft drinks and you could have at a meal at a buffet instead! actually , I have,, not often, but recently,,they have a very conveninent DOLLAR menu on which nothing is more than 2 bucks,,, And about as much nutritional value as cardboard. Actually, I think cardboard might be better for you. At least it has paste in it Food goes bad....But not Mickey D's! http://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahjewell/this-20-year-old-burger-from-mcdonalds-looks-brand-new#.sdgMyB1W1 |
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Keep the wages as they are but let the employees eat free....
or do they now? 
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Keep the wages as they are but let the employees eat free.... or do they now?
Some eat free. Some get discounts, ranging from 25% to 75%. Fast food 
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Or a burger joint, where you flip your own burgers..... |
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Keep the wages as they are but let the employees eat free.... or do they now?
i heard this is the principle idea in convincing the donkey to pull the cart all day long... you gotta give him, at least, some of the carrot...
half the population is at or below the poverty level... the same half, the republicans couldn't care less about (Mitt)... also the same ones who got the democrats elected (Barack).... |
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It will actually cost the taxpayers MUCH more because evn giving the workers $15 an hour it is now only part time work, usually less than 30 hours a week, which means they are still applying for food stamps and other benefits as well as, and no small thanks to, Oblowmecare! add to this the hidden cost that poverty creates for society... if a man can make a decent living (family, house, car and food) even as a lowly sanitation worker, he will do it.... suppress his chances to accomplish that goal and you will alienate him from society and societal customs....he would then prefer to rob and steal rather than accept the crumbs that fall from the Massah's table.... minimum starting pay for U.S. Citizen $ 15.00 per hour...i'd say you're getting off cheap.. |
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On a personal financials level,
The richest members of congress, are democrats. (Yanno, the idiots who vote on stuff like minimum wage) |
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Yea, give it to them. They will be replaced by robots anyway.
Careful what you wish for.... 
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suppress his chances to accomplish that goal
Thats on him.....society's roll isnt to ensure you prosper.....Thats all up to an individuals motivation and goals. Plenty of people have used minimum wage jobs as a springboard to better their situation and move on to better things.
and you will alienate him from society and societal customs. ..he would then prefer to rob
Good God.....so if someone cries and doesnt get their way, its a green light to be a criminal? Nevermind....this has GOT to be a troll statement, Im out.
and steal rather than accept the crumbs that fall from the Massah's table... Massah's
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i firmly believe the "trickle down" effect never was designed to help the economy, but to make the rich richer... seems that putting more money in the hands of the lower/middle class is the only way to make the economy strong again... the rich aren't spending money like the poor would, and that's what the economy needs is the poor/middle classes going to the best buys, ma and pa stores, spending money where it needs to be spent... where as the rich only spend theirs on investments snd other things rich people have, just spreading the money between themselves... if 99% of the population is spending money and putting it back into the system, doesn't that seem to end the problems we see today rather than when 1% are sitting on billions? I agree consumer spending helps the economy but I can't imagine tht the wealthier among us are not spending... can anyone say boat and weekend at the cottage? the rich may not buy the same "stuff" the rest of us do but they do contribute to consumer spending what I don't like is when wealthy folk (entertainers for example) vote for a socialist agenda (like Obama) but the middle class rather is still being strapped supporting the socialist programs they like. If the wealthy think these programs are so great than they can pay a larger share for them. I can barely afford my taxes. |
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suppress his chances to accomplish that goal
Thats on him.....society's roll isnt to ensure you prosper.....Thats all up to an individuals motivation and goals. Plenty of people have used minimum wage jobs as a springboard to better their situation and move on to better things.
and you will alienate him from society and societal customs. ..he would then prefer to rob
Good God.....so if someone cries and doesnt get their way, its a green light to be a criminal? Nevermind....this has GOT to be a troll statement, Im out.
and steal rather than accept the crumbs that fall from the Massah's table... Massah's
what's out are the two sentences you've edited from my post...taking my analogy out of the context in which it was given ......all i'm advocating is a livable minimum wage.. .enough for a man to support a wife and family.....1-job, 1-stay-at-home wife, 1.5-kids and shelter...that's all i apologize to you and all readers for the "Massah" remark....i should have used the words "Master's table" in it's stead....for that, i am sorry...i should know better than that... |
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Wages should not be an issue for the federal government. What is a "living" wage? Keep in mind that the cost of living is not the same in New York as it is in Saint Louis. It's not the same in Anchorage as it is Mobile. It's not the same in Los Angeles as it is Indianapolis. It's not the same in Missoula as it is in Montpelier. In some places $15/hour is more than sufficient. In other places it's not.
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i firmly believe the "trickle down" effect never was designed to help the economy, but to make the rich richer... seems that putting more money in the hands of the lower/middle class is the only way to make the economy strong again... the rich aren't spending money like the poor would, and that's what the economy needs is the poor/middle classes going to the best buys, ma and pa stores, spending money where it needs to be spent... where as the rich only spend theirs on investments snd other things rich people have, just spreading the money between themselves... if 99% of the population is spending money and putting it back into the system, doesn't that seem to end the problems we see today rather than when 1% are sitting on billions? I agree consumer spending helps the economy but I can't imagine tht the wealthier among us are not spending... can anyone say boat and weekend at the cottage? the rich may not buy the same "stuff" the rest of us do but they do contribute to consumer spending what I don't like is when wealthy folk (entertainers for example) vote for a socialist agenda (like Obama) but the middle class rather is still being strapped supporting the socialist programs they like. If the wealthy think these programs are so great than they can pay a larger share for them. I can barely afford my taxes. |
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i firmly believe the "trickle down" effect never was designed to help the economy, but to make the rich richer... seems that putting more money in the hands of the lower/middle class is the only way to make the economy strong again... the rich aren't spending money like the poor would, and that's what the economy needs is the poor/middle classes going to the best buys, ma and pa stores, spending money where it needs to be spent... where as the rich only spend theirs on investments snd other things rich people have, just spreading the money between themselves... if 99% of the population is spending money and putting it back into the system, doesn't that seem to end the problems we see today rather than when 1% are sitting on billions? I agree consumer spending helps the economy but I can't imagine tht the wealthier among us are not spending... can anyone say boat and weekend at the cottage? the rich may not buy the same "stuff" the rest of us do but they do contribute to consumer spending what I don't like is when wealthy folk (entertainers for example) vote for a socialist agenda (like Obama) but the middle class rather is still being strapped supporting the socialist programs they like. If the wealthy think these programs are so great than they can pay a larger share for them. I can barely afford my taxes. |
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Wages should not be an issue for the federal government. What is a "living" wage? Keep in mind that the cost of living is not the same in New York as it is in Saint Louis. It's not the same in Anchorage as it is Mobile. It's not the same in Los Angeles as it is Indianapolis. It's not the same in Missoula as it is in Montpelier. In some places $15/hour is more than sufficient. In other places it's not. what do think minimum wage means ???? it means this amount (whatever the # it is)..is what a worker would be paid for his labor >>>> no matter what state or city he lived in... |
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Wages should not be an issue for the federal government. What is a "living" wage? Keep in mind that the cost of living is not the same in New York as it is in Saint Louis. It's not the same in Anchorage as it is Mobile. It's not the same in Los Angeles as it is Indianapolis. It's not the same in Missoula as it is in Montpelier. In some places $15/hour is more than sufficient. In other places it's not. what do think minimum wage means ???? it means this amount (whatever the # it is)..is what a worker would be paid for his labor >>>> no matter what state or city he lived in... It's not an issue for the federal government. States are perfectly capable of handling this issue. That's the premise of the Tenth Amendment. |
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Fast Food Workers Deserve $15 an Hour ?
...simply incentivizes companies to get rid of human employees more quickly. I really don't think there's anything available at a fast food restaurant that isn't available via vending machine already. I can get ice cream and shakes from vending machines at Quiktrip. No need for dairy queen employees. Italy has fresh pizza vending machines. No need for Dominoes or papa johns or papa murphy's or pizza hut or little caesar's employees. Russia has fresh hamburger vending machines. Australia has fresh french fry vending machines. US has hot dog and fresh produce vending machines. Japan has lettuce vending machines, beer vending machines, and fried chicken vending machines. That takes care of pretty much any type of fast food available. And Chili's is putting tablets in their restaurants reducing the need for so much wait staff. What will happen when service worker jobs that are unskilled are all that is available for employment?
A lot of bad things which could fill up a thread by itself. consumer spending helps the economy
IMO it doesn't...really...it just gives the appearance through velocity and a type of churn. Consumption ultimately removes value, doesn't really add anything. It's especially harmful when everything being consumed is produced somewhere else, and credit allows consumption of future value. |
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Wages should not be an issue for the federal government. What is a "living" wage? Keep in mind that the cost of living is not the same in New York as it is in Saint Louis. It's not the same in Anchorage as it is Mobile. It's not the same in Los Angeles as it is Indianapolis. It's not the same in Missoula as it is in Montpelier. In some places $15/hour is more than sufficient. In other places it's not. what do think minimum wage means ???? it means this amount (whatever the # it is)..is what a worker would be paid for his labor >>>> no matter what state or city he lived in... It's not an issue for the federal government. States are perfectly capable of handling this issue. That's the premise of the Tenth Amendment. idk, you'll have to argue this out with yourself....it is a federal law requiring employers in the USofA to comply with this set amount....employers are subject to heavy fines and possibly prison time for violating the LAW....i'm not positive on the prison time, so don't hold me to that...cause i can't quote any stats or anything....if the feds want to go into the state of oregon and enforce federal maryjuana LAWS they can damn sure do that if they want to.....FED LAW supercedes STATE LAW...we are the UNITED states of america... |
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Wages should not be an issue for the federal government. What is a "living" wage? Keep in mind that the cost of living is not the same in New York as it is in Saint Louis. It's not the same in Anchorage as it is Mobile. It's not the same in Los Angeles as it is Indianapolis. It's not the same in Missoula as it is in Montpelier. In some places $15/hour is more than sufficient. In other places it's not. what do think minimum wage means ???? it means this amount (whatever the # it is)..is what a worker would be paid for his labor >>>> no matter what state or city he lived in... It's not an issue for the federal government. States are perfectly capable of handling this issue. That's the premise of the Tenth Amendment. |
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Wages should not be an issue for the federal government. What is a "living" wage? Keep in mind that the cost of living is not the same in New York as it is in Saint Louis. It's not the same in Anchorage as it is Mobile. It's not the same in Los Angeles as it is Indianapolis. It's not the same in Missoula as it is in Montpelier. In some places $15/hour is more than sufficient. In other places it's not. what do think minimum wage means ???? it means this amount (whatever the # it is)..is what a worker would be paid for his labor >>>> no matter what state or city he lived in... It's not an issue for the federal government. States are perfectly capable of handling this issue. That's the premise of the Tenth Amendment. idk, you'll have to argue this out with yourself....it is a federal law requiring employers in the USofA to comply with this set amount....employers are subject to heavy fines and possibly prison time for violating the LAW....i'm not positive on the prison time, so don't hold me to that...cause i can't quote any stats or anything....if the feds want to go into the state of oregon and enforce federal maryjuana LAWS they can damn sure do that if they want to.....FED LAW supercedes STATE LAW...we are the UNITED states of america... Most federal laws, including the marijuana laws, are better left to the states, and under the Tenth Amendment, the federal government has no business being involved. |
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