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While the Bible does confirm the events leading to Jesus parting physically from this world during the Passover Season, there is no absolute date for when is Jesus' birthday.
According to prophesy, the Messiah would be cut-off after his starting his ministry in 3 and a half years. So, if we know Jesus past from this life during Passover, which is in the Spring-time. Thus, Jesus' real (Physical) birthday must of been in the Fall-time, at approximately 6 months or 1/2 a year previous. As for this Vampire none-sense... No authentic Jew, Christian, or Muslim can condone the drinking or partaking of blood. Genesis 9: 4 Leviticus 7: 26 Acts Of The Apostles 15: 20+29 Surah 5: 3 <------ From The Quran -----<<< |
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While the Bible does confirm the events leading to Jesus parting physically from this world during the Passover Season, there is no absolute date for when is Jesus' birthday. According to prophesy, the Messiah would be cut-off after his starting his ministry in 3 and a half years. So, if we know Jesus past from this life during Passover, which is in the Spring-time. Thus, Jesus' real (Physical) birthday must of been in the Fall-time, at approximately 6 months or 1/2 a year previous. As for this Vampire none-sense... No authentic Jew, Christian, or Muslim can condone the drinking or partaking of blood. Genesis 9: 4 Leviticus 7: 26 Acts Of The Apostles 15: 20+29 Surah 5: 3 <------ From The Quran -----<<< Oh yeah Jesus wasn't born in December. I mean there was shepards attending sheep in the field when he was born, if this was in December there would have been no shepards in the field. But as there is no documents on exactly when Jesus was born it is celebrated in december just out of culture. But I highly doubt it's imparative to know when exactly he was born, as his crucifiction is the important thing to know. |
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An excellent point again, Cowboy GH...
Yes, the Bible does say the shepherds were 'still' tending to their sheep in the fields. Not likely as late into the year as after the Winter Solstice. |
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Edited by
Pansytilly
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As for the 3 wise men... Christmas on dec 25 is supposed to be an arbitrary date to follow a pagan practice in order to convert people...
That was done A LOT, and not only Christians did it - they're just the ones who survived doing it. Christmas is set in late December to take the place of a lot of pagan and traditional celebrations for midwinter - the same goes for Easter for spring and Halloween for autumn. (You think it's any coincidence that Easter means the rising of Jesus Christ from the dead, when the whole world is "rising from the dead" of winter? Soooooooo much symbology has been lost or ignored in the past two-thousand years.) (Also, why is "symbology" not a word in Mingle Squared's dictionary, but zymology is? Zymology apparently being the study of the fermentation process...) Fortunately for the early evangelical Christians, there were a lot of things to work with. A lot of mythologies around the world have mention of a Great Flood, either at the creation of the world or sometime thereafter. There are also legends of giants and demons everywhere, even in the Americas. These were almost always antagonistic forces to humanity, which made things easier to get people to think of them as "anti-Christian" or "unholy". In many mythologies, there were lots of male-led pantheons (i.e., a patriarchy) like Zeus, Odin, and Osiris that often had direct parallels to the acts of God or Jesus Christ. One of the more famous examples in literature is the parallel between Odin and Jesus - Odin sacrificed himself by hanging himself upside-down from a giant tree in order to gain wisdom. This was seen as a direct parallel to Jesus Christ being hung from the wooden cross and sacrificing his life for the Good of Mankind. -------- Also, I hear it wasn't Jesus who was the vampire, but the Roman soldier Longinus, who stabbed Jesus with the spear. i never thought about the parallels of Holloween and Easter with fall and spring as a symbol of death and life... as for giants and demons... fallen angels were allegedly responsible for bringing a number of unearthly knowledge to humans, opening up a wide array of ungodly practices... and a number of famous ancient leaders were allegedly giants with otherworldly abilities... there could be a relation here somewhere? Genesis 6:4 Jude 1:6 2 Corinthians 11:14 Revelation 12:7-9 wouldn't paralleling Odin with Jesus be somewhat...unfair (and i'm being diplomatic here), considering Odin is a myth? i mean, i can understand why they would use mythology as a way to try and convert people in those days, but i don't think that it is the most effective way of doing so, since one is just substituted for the other, without really revealing the true nature... ----- i heard Judas was the vampire... lol |
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While the Bible does confirm the events leading to Jesus parting physically from this world during the Passover Season, there is no absolute date for when is Jesus' birthday. According to prophesy, the Messiah would be cut-off after his starting his ministry in 3 and a half years. So, if we know Jesus past from this life during Passover, which is in the Spring-time. Thus, Jesus' real (Physical) birthday must of been in the Fall-time, at approximately 6 months or 1/2 a year previous. As for this Vampire none-sense... No authentic Jew, Christian, or Muslim can condone the drinking or partaking of blood. Genesis 9: 4 Leviticus 7: 26 Acts Of The Apostles 15: 20+29 Surah 5: 3 <------ From The Quran -----<<< i do believe the prohibition on eating and drinking blood goes beyond the simple law of being against it, as you have cited... since blood is life and blood sacrifice needed to atone for sins, the partaking in such would be considered as sacrilege... at the same time, women shedding blood was considered unclean until the 7th day after... which brings me to asking about blood transfusion... some would not condone to it even in the face of life-threatening situations... |
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While Adam and Eve begot Able, Cain, and Seth, they also begot daughters as well. Now, because Adam and Eve were the next closest thing to being perfect humans, it stands to reason their offspring were also capable of inbreeding for an indefinite period of time. Thus, after Cain murdered Able, there were two dominant lineages from Cain and Seth through an indefinite number of sisters of their own original parents. Only with the passing of time does the concept of incest become pertinent. Also, as time passes a broader number of immediate family members become ineligible as someone with whom One can get married to. ************ All Humanity Eventually Comes From Noah's Sons ************ Now, because all of humanity is wiped-out during the Great Flood of Noah's day, only Noah's three sons and their wives continue the lineage of humanity. These sons of Noah are called, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Again remember, because the further back in time humanity goes... The greater the variety of 'closer-to-perfection' gene-pool there is. In Genesis chapter 10, we can plainly read the displacement of the three dominant physical strains of humanity. Shem and his wife begat the lineage of Oriental peoples. Ham and his wife begat the lineage of Negro peoples. Japheth and his wife begat the lineage of Caucasian peoples. Noah doesn't have any more children upon disembarking, as his wife doesn't survive the voyage. (Surah 66: 10) ...and that everyone comes exclusively from the lineage of Noah...sorry, that doesn't compute very well in my head... i would see why Noah turned to drinking, tho 
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Dear Pansytilly,
There is a thread in the past in this Forum about the subject of Blood Transfusions. As for all of us being from Noah's lineage... How is that anymore offensive then all of us being from the lineage of Adam? |
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Dear Pansytilly, There is a thread in the past in this Forum about the subject of Blood Transfusions. As for all of us being from Noah's lineage... How is that anymore offensive then all of us being from the lineage of Adam? I'll have too look that up... If I can find it... I don't know if it is offensive or not... But I have stated that I don't think we are all from the lineage of Adam either... But that is not to say that I do not believe that he did exist, as a real person...and as a concept of mankind (as cowboy has defined the word/name)... |
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open secret.. everytime I see this topic.. I think of open wounds..
. scabs... gross..lol |
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open secret.. everytime I see this topic.. I think of open wounds.. . scabs... gross..lol Looking at it a certain way, it probably is... |
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There are no 'other' races of humanity...
There are no 'other' species of humans... There are different strains of the one species that is Mankind. Humanity has been isolated into dominant gene-pools of inbreeding from the beginning. I'm sad to say, it sometimes causes bias and prejudice. Just like a Pigeon is a Dove... They are the same species and yet they'll fight with each other. |
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There are no 'other' races of humanity... There are no 'other' species of humans... There are different strains of the one species that is Mankind. Humanity has been isolated into dominant gene-pools of inbreeding from the beginning. I'm sad to say, it sometimes causes bias and prejudice. Just like a Pigeon is a Dove... They are the same species and yet they'll fight with each other. Yes... Eventually, this is exactly what happened... Hence, the theory of evolution--> dissemination --> revolution... Then another cycle of the same... 
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After an extended period of time of any animal, including humans, that are inbred with themselves... Dominate strains of that species occur.
While survival of the fittest is applicable and will ultimately produce the best living strain of a species to an area, it still doesn't explain the different species to begin with. I do believe in natural selection but I do not believe in evolution into different species. This is where creation comes into play... Only the True God has produced all the varied types of species and what they've morphed into because of environment is another type of what is still the same species. |
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After an extended period of time of any animal, including humans, that are inbred with themselves... Dominate strains of that species occur. While survival of the fittest is applicable and will ultimately produce the best living strain of a species to an area, it still doesn't explain the different species to begin with. I do believe in natural selection but I do not believe in evolution into different species. This is where creation comes into play... Only the True God has produced all the varied types of species and what they've morphed into because of environment is another type of what is still the same species. I thought natural selection is part and parcel of evolution... But I do believe there is truth in what you just said... Too bad many would rather have one or the other, and endlessly argue about it... |
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I not certain if there's any truth to it... But I've heard that even Charles Darwin denounced his own idea of Evolution Of The Species while he was on his death-bed.
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I have heard of that. But I believe the operative word is "theory"... As the created is only capable of contemplating less than a fraction of the laws of the creator...
Perhaps that is why he denounced it on his deathbed... Some sort of spiritual awakening... I do not know if he denounced the entire theory though.... But I do not believe that humans came from apes... |
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Don't get me wrong...!
Much of Charles Darwin's work is brilliant. He did explain survival of the fittest and natural selection as logical ideas to explaining the diversity of 'a' species, but it all falls-apart when it comes to 'new species.' Again, I don't know if he really denounced anything at all while on his death-bed. It wouldn't surprise me if he denounced the theory of the evolving of 'new species.' The rest of his work, for the most part, was quite enlightening. |
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Edited by
Pansytilly
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Wed 02/25/15 07:42 PM
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My point exactly!
Now the real missing link is how to marry creation with evolution. Which is part of the objective of my original post 
See what happened there...? 
By the way, I do believe in vampires... Just not the way they have been portrayed... And I wouldn't want to be in a position of being face to face with one... 
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Edited by
SheikOfLaBroquerie
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After an extended period of time of any animal, including humans, that are inbred with themselves... Dominate strains of that species occur. While survival of the fittest is applicable and will ultimately produce the best living strain of a species to an area, it still doesn't explain the different species to begin with. I do believe in natural selection but I do not believe in evolution into different species. This is where creation comes into play... Only the True God has produced all the varied types of species and what they've morphed into because of environment is another type of what is still the same species. As for Vampires... The Ottoman Turkish Caliphate sent a army to get Count Dracula's head and bring it to him in a box. They succeeded. |
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As for the 3 wise men... Christmas on dec 25 is supposed to be an arbitrary date to follow a pagan practice in order to convert people...
That was done A LOT, and not only Christians did it - they're just the ones who survived doing it. Christmas is set in late December to take the place of a lot of pagan and traditional celebrations for midwinter - the same goes for Easter for spring and Halloween for autumn. (You think it's any coincidence that Easter means the rising of Jesus Christ from the dead, when the whole world is "rising from the dead" of winter? Soooooooo much symbology has been lost or ignored in the past two-thousand years.) (Also, why is "symbology" not a word in Mingle Squared's dictionary, but zymology is? Zymology apparently being the study of the fermentation process...) Fortunately for the early evangelical Christians, there were a lot of things to work with. A lot of mythologies around the world have mention of a Great Flood, either at the creation of the world or sometime thereafter. There are also legends of giants and demons everywhere, even in the Americas. These were almost always antagonistic forces to humanity, which made things easier to get people to think of them as "anti-Christian" or "unholy". In many mythologies, there were lots of male-led pantheons (i.e., a patriarchy) like Zeus, Odin, and Osiris that often had direct parallels to the acts of God or Jesus Christ. One of the more famous examples in literature is the parallel between Odin and Jesus - Odin sacrificed himself by hanging himself upside-down from a giant tree in order to gain wisdom. This was seen as a direct parallel to Jesus Christ being hung from the wooden cross and sacrificing his life for the Good of Mankind. -------- Also, I hear it wasn't Jesus who was the vampire, but the Roman soldier Longinus, who stabbed Jesus with the spear. Easter is celebrated in the spring because historically that is when Jesus was crucified. Christmas, however, is historically inaccurate. |
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