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Topic: Large KKK Groups On Way To Ferguson
Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/19/14 01:37 AM



Awwww...
In the midst of all the attention, the ku klux klowns felt left out.

Knowingly traveling to a gunfight, with the intent of participation, isn't covered under "self defense".

I wonder which ACLU Jew attorney, is gonna get stuck defending the morons.


It doesn't matter if they travel in or not. Any American is able to defend themselves against force.

What gets me is the KKK is no different then Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. They are ALL race baiters. If you think about it they are doing the same thing the Dishonorable Al and Uncle Jesse are doing.


Knowingly, and willfully going to a gunfight as an armed participant, excludes any claim to "self defense".

As for the New Black Pansies,
I think the same of them, as I do the ku klux klowns.


Not if your going to protect people or property. Read the flyer, they wont be going anything but defending families and the properties of ALL colors and to help push the thugs traveling into Ferguson from around the country to loot, hurt, rob, and kill the thugs.

They are going to be a neighborhood watch.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/19/14 01:49 AM



Awwww...
In the midst of all the attention, the ku klux klowns felt left out.

Knowingly traveling to a gunfight, with the intent of participation, isn't covered under "self defense".

I wonder which ACLU Jew attorney, is gonna get stuck defending the morons.


It doesn't matter if they travel in or not. Any American is able to defend themselves against force.

What gets me is the KKK is no different then Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. They are ALL race baiters. If you think about it they are doing the same thing the Dishonorable Al and Uncle Jesse are doing.


Knowingly, and willfully going to a gunfight as an armed participant, excludes any claim to "self defense".

As for the New Black Pansies,
I think the same of them, as I do the ku klux klowns.


The Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam have their own uniformed military units.

Rock's photo
Wed 11/19/14 04:09 AM




Awwww...
In the midst of all the attention, the ku klux klowns felt left out.

Knowingly traveling to a gunfight, with the intent of participation, isn't covered under "self defense".

I wonder which ACLU Jew attorney, is gonna get stuck defending the morons.


It doesn't matter if they travel in or not. Any American is able to defend themselves against force.

What gets me is the KKK is no different then Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. They are ALL race baiters. If you think about it they are doing the same thing the Dishonorable Al and Uncle Jesse are doing.


Knowingly, and willfully going to a gunfight as an armed participant, excludes any claim to "self defense".

As for the New Black Pansies,
I think the same of them, as I do the ku klux klowns.


Not if your going to protect people or property. Read the flyer, they wont be going anything but defending families and the properties of ALL colors and to help push the thugs traveling into Ferguson from around the country to loot, hurt, rob, and kill the thugs.

They are going to be a neighborhood watch.

The prisons in Carson City, are full of idiots who didn't comprehend what "self defense" is. Hell, the prison in Ely, has a cellblock reserved just for 'em.

In the basement of the Nevada Supreme Court, there is a law library open to public use. Please use it. Please read those nifty little books, titled 'Nevada Revised Statutes'.

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 11/19/14 04:28 AM
I think if they are not deputized by some local Authorities,they will be in Deep DooDoo!

Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/19/14 07:11 AM





Awwww...
In the midst of all the attention, the ku klux klowns felt left out.

Knowingly traveling to a gunfight, with the intent of participation, isn't covered under "self defense".

I wonder which ACLU Jew attorney, is gonna get stuck defending the morons.


It doesn't matter if they travel in or not. Any American is able to defend themselves against force.

What gets me is the KKK is no different then Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. They are ALL race baiters. If you think about it they are doing the same thing the Dishonorable Al and Uncle Jesse are doing.


Knowingly, and willfully going to a gunfight as an armed participant, excludes any claim to "self defense".

As for the New Black Pansies,
I think the same of them, as I do the ku klux klowns.


Not if your going to protect people or property. Read the flyer, they wont be going anything but defending families and the properties of ALL colors and to help push the thugs traveling into Ferguson from around the country to loot, hurt, rob, and kill the thugs.

They are going to be a neighborhood watch.

The prisons in Carson City, are full of idiots who didn't comprehend what "self defense" is. Hell, the prison in Ely, has a cellblock reserved just for 'em.

In the basement of the Nevada Supreme Court, there is a law library open to public use. Please use it. Please read those nifty little books, titled 'Nevada Revised Statutes'.



I know my statutes on self defense. I have to use them almost daily at work. As long as your in fear for your immediate safety or the safety of someone else you can match force with reasonable force is the basics of it.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 11/19/14 07:12 AM

I think if they are not deputized by some local Authorities,they will be in Deep DooDoo!


Unfortunately, that will be true. Everyone else will be there destroying the town and the cops will give them a pass but the KKK who is going there to protect people and property from looters and aggressors will end up in jail.

Tell me, how is that fair or right.

no photo
Wed 11/19/14 08:59 AM

the primitive animalistic who love their violence will always destroy each other no matter whether black or white or red or yellow or green.


but, what about the Greys?shocked

no photo
Thu 11/20/14 05:48 PM

In the basement of the Nevada Supreme Court, there is a law library open to public use. Please use it. Please read those nifty little books, titled 'Nevada Revised Statutes'.


Hey, I like to do that, not in Nevada mind you, but other states. Don't need to be the Supreme Court as most courts house a library somewhere in the building.

Now when I want to read fiction, I do look at statutes but don't need to go to the court house for that, all states and almost all body politic have their statutes, codes, and ordinances on line. Great reading when you are in the mood for a little fiction.

Now the law libraries, there is where you go for mysteries, yes mysteries. There are just thousands upon thousands of volumes of all these mysteries, mostly short stories, written by there mystical actors in their little black robes as their opinions at how these tragic little stories should end. If it is a really good ending with language that would allow many different intrepretations, then it will be "quoted" (they call it citing as you must reference the book of the first person) by all these others in trying to prove their story could have the same ending.

Strange that as it is only opinions as how can anything really be pro9ved?

no photo
Thu 11/20/14 05:51 PM

I know my statutes on self defense. I have to use them almost daily at work. As long as your in fear for your immediate safety or the safety of someone else you can match force with reasonable force is the basics of it.


Really, and which statutes are those? Do they have anything to do with the law?

no photo
Thu 11/20/14 05:56 PM


I think if they are not deputized by some local Authorities,they will be in Deep DooDoo!


Unfortunately, that will be true. Everyone else will be there destroying the town and the cops will give them a pass but the KKK who is going there to protect people and property from looters and aggressors will end up in jail.

Tell me, how is that fair or right.


If they want fair and right, then they should stay home.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 11/21/14 02:45 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 11/21/14 02:51 AM


I know my statutes on self defense. I have to use them almost daily at work. As long as your in fear for your immediate safety or the safety of someone else you can match force with reasonable force is the basics of it.


Really, and which statutes are those? Do they have anything to do with the law?


Clearly the statutes have to do with the law since they are the law. Look up the 171 and 200 laws. It's pretty simple you cant match force with reasonable force. I use the 171's daily, arrest by private person.

John Doe enters a store grabs and conceals a bottle of liquor in his pants and walks out the door. Store employee Sam Smith approaches him and identifies himself as a store employee, Doe tells Smith to F off and pushes Smith. Smith can use reasonable force to make a citizens arrest, which usually starts with a physical redirection and if that doesn't work Smith takes Doe to the ground and restrains him. Doe then gets charged with strong armed robbery for using force or the threat of force to retain stolen items.

Same scenario. Doe hits Smith, Smith hits back and knocks Doe out and restrains him. It is legally self defense as long as Smith doesn't keep hitting Doe after the threat is neutralized.

Same scenario. Smith takes Doe to the ground to restrain him, Doe pulls out a knife during the struggle and Smith then starts punching, using more force or possibly using a control move on Doe (like a headlock, which is legal but most companies don't allow it). Still legal under self defense laws and Doe goes to jail for Armed Robbery.

Same scenario. Smith approaches Doe and starts hitting him before any other interaction. Smith would be the one more then likely going to jail.

Same Scenario. Doe is restrained for the theft, while restrained Smith hits Doe. Smith is going to jail.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 11/21/14 02:49 AM



I think if they are not deputized by some local Authorities,they will be in Deep DooDoo!


Unfortunately, that will be true. Everyone else will be there destroying the town and the cops will give them a pass but the KKK who is going there to protect people and property from looters and aggressors will end up in jail.

Tell me, how is that fair or right.


If they want fair and right, then they should stay home.


So the defenseless get hurt and their property destroyed? Self defense laws cover protecting someone else and someone else's property as well.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 11/21/14 04:29 AM



I know my statutes on self defense. I have to use them almost daily at work. As long as your in fear for your immediate safety or the safety of someone else you can match force with reasonable force is the basics of it.


Really, and which statutes are those? Do they have anything to do with the law?


Clearly the statutes have to do with the law since they are the law. Look up the 171 and 200 laws. It's pretty simple you cant match force with reasonable force. I use the 171's daily, arrest by private person.

John Doe enters a store grabs and conceals a bottle of liquor in his pants and walks out the door. Store employee Sam Smith approaches him and identifies himself as a store employee, Doe tells Smith to F off and pushes Smith. Smith can use reasonable force to make a citizens arrest, which usually starts with a physical redirection and if that doesn't work Smith takes Doe to the ground and restrains him. Doe then gets charged with strong armed robbery for using force or the threat of force to retain stolen items.

Same scenario. Doe hits Smith, Smith hits back and knocks Doe out and restrains him. It is legally self defense as long as Smith doesn't keep hitting Doe after the threat is neutralized.

Same scenario. Smith takes Doe to the ground to restrain him, Doe pulls out a knife during the struggle and Smith then starts punching, using more force or possibly using a control move on Doe (like a headlock, which is legal but most companies don't allow it). Still legal under self defense laws and Doe goes to jail for Armed Robbery.

Same scenario. Smith approaches Doe and starts hitting him before any other interaction. Smith would be the one more then likely going to jail.

Same Scenario. Doe is restrained for the theft, while restrained Smith hits Doe. Smith is going to jail.

But you are sort of "Deputized" by the Store!
You're not just snowing in from somewhere and starting to grab Shoplifters!
You are authorized by the Store to do so!bigsmile

Lpdon's photo
Fri 11/21/14 01:30 PM




I know my statutes on self defense. I have to use them almost daily at work. As long as your in fear for your immediate safety or the safety of someone else you can match force with reasonable force is the basics of it.


Really, and which statutes are those? Do they have anything to do with the law?


Clearly the statutes have to do with the law since they are the law. Look up the 171 and 200 laws. It's pretty simple you cant match force with reasonable force. I use the 171's daily, arrest by private person.

John Doe enters a store grabs and conceals a bottle of liquor in his pants and walks out the door. Store employee Sam Smith approaches him and identifies himself as a store employee, Doe tells Smith to F off and pushes Smith. Smith can use reasonable force to make a citizens arrest, which usually starts with a physical redirection and if that doesn't work Smith takes Doe to the ground and restrains him. Doe then gets charged with strong armed robbery for using force or the threat of force to retain stolen items.

Same scenario. Doe hits Smith, Smith hits back and knocks Doe out and restrains him. It is legally self defense as long as Smith doesn't keep hitting Doe after the threat is neutralized.

Same scenario. Smith takes Doe to the ground to restrain him, Doe pulls out a knife during the struggle and Smith then starts punching, using more force or possibly using a control move on Doe (like a headlock, which is legal but most companies don't allow it). Still legal under self defense laws and Doe goes to jail for Armed Robbery.

Same scenario. Smith approaches Doe and starts hitting him before any other interaction. Smith would be the one more then likely going to jail.

Same Scenario. Doe is restrained for the theft, while restrained Smith hits Doe. Smith is going to jail.

But you are sort of "Deputized" by the Store!
You're not just snowing in from somewhere and starting to grab Shoplifters!
You are authorized by the Store to do so!bigsmile


Yes, I am acting as an "Agent" of the store but in no way am I deputized. Anytime any one in Loss Prevention takes someone into custody they are initiating a citizens arrest.

And yes I stopped someone from stealing at a different chain of stores then I work for back in 2012. I was on my way home from work after picking up my ex wife, and stopped into another store shopping, saw someone I recognized from catching at my store and he was in there stealing a whole basket of groceries he bagged himself and tried to let the manager know, got shrugged off so I stopped the guy from leaving as he was pushing the cart on the curb of the store and made a citizens arrest (as luck would have it since I just got off work I had my handcuffs still in my pocket) and got the police involved and he went back to jail. He was surprised as hell to see me there to say the least! pitchfork

markc48's photo
Tue 11/25/14 04:09 PM
From the pictures I've seen they are too late.

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/25/14 05:44 PM
its tragic, and also pisses me off

the stories of idiots looting and burning things will overshadow any stories of real working being and needing to be done,,,,

no photo
Tue 11/25/14 05:55 PM

Awwww...
In the midst of all the attention, the ku klux klowns felt left out.


That's what I was thinking.


Knowingly traveling to a gunfight, with the intent of participation, isn't covered under "self defense".


It is if your individual actions at the time of any conflict are consistent with the legal expectations of 'self defence'.

If you think someone will 'need defending', and go to their side planning to act only if its necessary, you can still potentially claim self defence.

I wonder which ACLU Jew attorney, is gonna get stuck defending the morons.


Why bring Judaism into that sentence? At all?

no photo
Tue 11/25/14 06:01 PM

its tragic, and also pisses me off

the stories of idiots looting and burning things will overshadow any stories of real working being and needing to be done,,,,


Yes. IMO, the looters and arsonists are actually, effectively, the enemy of the sincere activists. Its too bad that many of the activists don't realize it. Too many activists rationalize the looting and arson, and even tried to inflame and capitalize on the emotional currents which lead to looting and arson.

davidben1's photo
Tue 11/25/14 07:33 PM
it's truly perfect for Ferguson, a city stupid and hateful enough to be able to be coerced and led into hate and anger...

such was not created just recently, or none would react as they are just now...

are you serious...

it has been a hate filled pretentious city as many are, and just now given opportunity to exercise and display that hate that comes by finding one self a victim and pure and another the culprit and evil one.

it's what shall come for many cities as each day progresses, that can be convinced it self is a good person and many others are bad...

the lions shall love devouring those whom love to find them self innocent and others as guilty...

those that choose sides...

so create division and so hate...

as of course, self shall always find in it's own favor, and find the other as the discriminate thugs and idiots.

when the commander in chief, say's the complaints in Ferguson are not just made up...

but DO NOT DO VIOLENCE.

hehehe...

then wise eyes know the plan.

smiles

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/25/14 07:38 PM
I too believe that things are not just about Brown, but about an accumulation of the environment and all the Browns before that


everything has a tipping point,, perhaps this will be the one to inspire change and progress for that town,,,,

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