I'd say most are outdated.

Like:
1. You can live alone now. You don't live with family since you can have decent jobs and income. That's what made picking you up at home safe, since for the majority of the time since dating was invented (due to the industrial revolution and mass migration to big cities) women never lived alone.

2. You can afford several sets of clothes, rather than 1 for work and 1 for church. You probably have clothing specialized to your activity. Like work out clothes, going out clothes, work clothes, pajamas, what you wear to do laundry. Whatever. So people are going to have clothes they feel most comfortable in. Which would you prefer? Someone be comfortable on a date? Or simply represent you stylishly?

3. Tokens of affection no longer have universal meaning. Chocolates and flowers are no longer luxury goods. So should I bring cut flowers to a woman that hates the U.S. subsidizing of Colombian flower farmers and wants to be eco friendly? How do I know what that is until after I've dated her for a while. And if I've been dating her for a while why do I need a token to do the talking for me when I can speak my affections myself?

4. "Dancing" used to be mostly the man leading the woman like a horse around the dance floor, controlling her by applying pressure to her hands, shoulders, and hips. Do you still take dancing lessons on how to let a man lead you?

5. Like tokens of affection, communication isn't universal anymore.
A looooooot of people take asking someone out on a "date" to translate to "this is the first step in my commitment towards building a long term relationship with you and shall allow you to hate me, judge me, revile me, and remove my eyes if another person even enters my consciousness or I don't attach myself to you at the hip."
"Hanging out" simply has the definition that "date" used to have that people adulterated.

6. Same thing with changes in education and specialization in communication. What does "going steady" really mean? What exactly are the boundaries, expectations, acceptable behavior?
And if 2 people sit down with a spreadsheet and suss it out...doesn't that kill the romance and make all the "tokens of affection" meaningless to apply rational logic to them?

7. Romantic gestures are the same as tokens of affection. You are asking for something that communicates motives and feelings.
They aren't universal anymore. Like someone bringing you yellow flowers doesn't necessarily mean they only see you as a friend and will not act beyond it until they bring you red roses signifying they love you.

So until you give up the idea of "getting to know you" so you can just rely on universal gestures, rituals, and tokens, then these things are outdated.

8. Is it more important to accept them how they are, bad habits and all, or they start behaving how you want them to? Other than that, this "old rule" isn't "old" at all. It's relatively new.

9. I don't understand this. You want someone to ask your permission before trying to kiss you or do anything at all? You don't really want any passion or romance, just requisition forms?

10. How do you know this is a new phenomenon? Or an old fashion dating habit was to not assume sex was to be had? T.V. and movies?

#10 I disagree. I expect sex on the third date and any guy who isn't willing to put out by then is just playing hard to get.

Not to get into deep conversation's bout this or lead this thread astray, but there's really only one thing that has changed in that area. And that is people's openness about it. Gay/homosexuality can be traced back to even the ancient times in Rome and so forth. It's just in the past decade or so people have become more open in their expressing of it.

wow lol, another reason I've been single so long with mindsets such as :)=

LADIES YOU ARE THE PRIZE---YOU CALL THE SHOTS--WE ARE EASY TO TRAIN--ONLY REWARD US WHEN

ARE GOOD NOT WHEN WE ARE BAD-- WE MIGHT THROW A TIZZY BUT WE WILL GET OVER IT--ITS UP TO

YOU TO SET THE STANDARDS--'' WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TREAT US '--'

OP, I hope the ability to be considerate and show the other person that we value the time we've chosen to spend with them - and them with us - is

"timeless" and not outdated.




<---Brought flowers, when just showing up to this thread.

Absolutely, men like to think they call the shots. But when it boils down to it, the women have men by the groins so to speak. This doesn't apply to just males in general, we're speaking of men. And a man would never do anything to bring any form of pain to their woman, so therefore if the woman doesn't like it, it doesn't happpen and vice versa if they do like it ect.

Okay fine.

The fourth date.

.. well I was going to try for . to put out for you on the second date..
but if I have to wait for the third date.. you better bring flowers...

Agree with some but not all.

So according to this, its safe to leave condoms home. It will definitely not happen on first date anyway, so why bother, right?

Hmmm... old fashioned or not..
right now !!!at this point.!!..
I just want someone !who wants me!!...as much as I want them....
.. if I had that.... I would do everything to make you feel!!. like you were being courted properly...
... well as long as you put out on the first date that is...lmao

I had a con artist dating me. He brought me flowers at least 3 x's a week. I did become suspicious....long story....he was a creep.

I agree with #8.....exceptions are vibrators and pop corn maker.

I would be too....anything more than twice a year is very suspicious

Valentines Day, and ....?

...anniversary. Birthdays may be a bonus year, otherwise chocolates in a red heart shaped box...with ribbon.

11. Now let's talk about sex.