Topic: Another Thug Bites Da Dust | |
---|---|
THUG WEARING A MASK AND A HOODIE, PACKING A PELLET GUN<<<<<What an Idiot.
Family saying it wasn't "fair" it wasn't a REAL GUN. Omaha police chief says officers justified in firing their weapons in Wendy's shooting Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:26 am By Maggie O’Brien and Alia Conley / World-Herald staff writers Just 18 hours after Omaha police killed a television crew member and a robber armed with only a pellet gun, Police Chief Todd Schmaderer said his officers were justified in firing their weapons. The chief said Wednesday that he based his initial findings on three eyewitness accounts as well as footage captured by the crew’s cameraman as he sheltered himself from gunfire. “The officers had no choice other than to respond in the manner in which they did,” Schmaderer said during a midafternoon press conference with the mayor and the producers of the “Cops” reality show, whose crew has been in Omaha all summer recording the actions of officers. The violence broke out about 9:20 p.m. Tuesday at the Wendy’s restaurant at 4308 Dodge St. Three officers shot multiple times after the 32-year-old robber fired what looked and sounded like a real firearm, Schmaderer said. Schmaderer said the investigation into the double fatality has just begun. A Douglas County grand jury will be called to examine the Police Department’s actions, and the department’s officer- involved shooting unit also will investigate. The “Cops” crewman, 38-year-old Bryce Dion, was a sound mixer from Boston who had recently been promoted. He died at the Nebraska Medical Center. Dion was wearing a bullet proof vest, but that protection couldn’t save him. Schmaderer said the bullet entered Dion’s body through an opening in the vest just under his armpit. The “Cops” crew had only had one week to go until the show was scheduled to wrap up its work in Omaha. “He really is one of our best,” said Morgan Langley, a “Cops” producer, adding that Dion was “a very talented guy.” Michael McCann, Dion’s close friend in high school, said he was passionate about entertainment production, and family and friends back home were proud to see him succeed in Hollywood. “On some level I imagine there’s a risk in doing a show like this,” McCann said. “But for him to be taken so young, it’s very sad.” The robber, Cortez Washington, was a recent parolee from Kansas City who had moved to Nebraska. He was shot multiple times and also died at the hospital. His sister-in-law, Tawanna Washington, said Washington moved to Omaha to be near his dad’s side of the family and to try to better his life. He had seven children and was working temporary jobs and doing manual labor. The police chief on Wednesday outlined the events that led to the deaths. The longtime reality show began working with police in June. Schmaderer had agreed to let “Cops” come to Omaha in the hope that the community’s ability to see its police force in action would build public trust. Instead, “I will live with this forever,” Schmaderer said. Schmaderer said three officers fired their guns: Detective Darren Cunningham, 37; Officer Brooks Riley, 35; and Officer Jason Wilhelm, 39. Cunningham has been on the police force for a decade; Riley and Wilhelm each have four years of service and were assigned to the department’s northeast precinct. All three have been placed on paid administrative leave, per department policy. The investigation is still in its early stages, Schmaderer said, and Nebraska law requires a grand jury to be convened in officer-related shootings. “We are striving for unprecedented transparency in this investigation,” the chief said. Investigators discovered after the shooting that Washington had been firing an Airsoft pistol that doesn’t fire real bullets. The gun looked and sounded real to officers, Schmaderer said. Roxy Galloway, an employee at Wendy’s, remembers the smoke and the sounds the most. She said she had been preparing to lock the lobby when Washington came in with his nose and mouth covered by a bandanna. She thought he was joking, until he pulled out a gun and pointed it at her, telling her to put all the money from the drive-thru and the front registers in the bag. It was while she was taking money from the front register that police came in and saw the gun pointed at her, she said. “There was a bunch of yelling. I heard the bang. (Washington) was about a foot away from me when it started,” Galloway, 21, said. “It was really loud. It sounded like a real gun. I couldn’t even tell the difference between officers’ guns and his gun. “It was pretty much a hostage situation. The gun was pointed at me.” |
|
|
|
Criminals tend to be two-faced ...
... showing one face to relatives and showing the other face to crime victims. |
|
|
|
technically he didn't show any face to the victim, as his face was covered but humans tend to be more complex than any one moment or choice, even if its sometimes construed as 'two faces' , its just different reactions to different situations I don't know what past this man had,, its unfortunate he made this choice and terrified others and lost his life |
|
|
|
He did show a face.
That of a cold blooded thug. Would have liked to see the look on his face when someone shot back. Like, damn dude. I was just playin'. |
|
|
|
I don't know how 'cold blooded 'it is to carry a gun that cant kill anyone but can get you killed
sounds more like 'desperate' to me,, but we are all free to our own narrative/perspective |
|
|
|
I don't know how 'cold blooded 'it is to carry a gun that cant kill anyone but can get you killed sounds more like 'desperate' to me,, but we are all free to our own narrative/perspective A pellet gun can't kill???? You a weapons expert now? |
|
|
|
nah, I just know 'cold blooded' folks tend to carry the real thing as they have no problem with taking lives
seems this person was far less 'cold blooded' than desperate and criminal but as I said,, narrative is subjective, I rejoice in the humanity of even 'criminals' , or else he could have just walked into a school with a REAL gun and a 'cold heart' and started blowing kids away I find it hard to rejoice in deaths, but if that's the hobby others choose,, it is a free country |
|
|
|
I celebrate justice.
|
|
|
|
nah, I just know 'cold blooded' folks tend to carry the real thing as they have no problem with taking lives seems this person was far less 'cold blooded' than desperate and criminal but as I said,, narrative is subjective, I rejoice in the humanity of even 'criminals' , or else he could have just walked into a school with a REAL gun and a 'cold heart' and started blowing kids away I find it hard to rejoice in deaths, but if that's the hobby others choose,, it is a free country Nobody is rejoicing in deaths. Whether the gun used by the thug shot pellets or shot bullets, the purpose for having the gun was the same. |
|
|
|
nah, I just know 'cold blooded' folks tend to carry the real thing as they have no problem with taking lives seems this person was far less 'cold blooded' than desperate and criminal but as I said,, narrative is subjective, I rejoice in the humanity of even 'criminals' , or else he could have just walked into a school with a REAL gun and a 'cold heart' and started blowing kids away I find it hard to rejoice in deaths, but if that's the hobby others choose,, it is a free country Nobody is rejoicing in deaths. Whether the gun used by the thug shot pellets or shot bullets, the purpose for having the gun was the same. no, it wasn't, the purpose of a toy or pellet gun is to scare the purpose of a real gun is to kill or seriously maim with the least amount of effort a 'cold blooded' person, is getting the real thing, and not a 'pellet' or 'beebee' gun and someone does rejoice in deaths whether others here will aknowledge it or not,,, |
|
|
|
the purpose of a toy or pellet gun is to scare the purpose of a real gun is to kill or seriously maim with the least amount of effort A robber uses a real gun to scare, also, not necessarily with the intent to actually shoot it. |
|
|
|
the purpose of a toy or pellet gun is to scare the purpose of a real gun is to kill or seriously maim with the least amount of effort A robber uses a real gun to scare, also, not necessarily with the intent to actually shoot it. true, but rarely do 'killers' and 'cold blooded' not choose the real gun for their crimes,,, if you are bringing the real gun, you are willing to risk very EASILY ending a life,,, |
|
|
|
I don't know how 'cold blooded 'it is to carry a gun that cant kill anyone but can get you killed sounds more like 'desperate' to me,, but we are all free to our own narrative/perspective http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/29/alaska-boy-6-fatally-shoots-girl-with-pellet-gun/ http://m.newser.com/story/192742/best-friend-kills-boy-12-with-pellet-gun.html I could find more but I think my point is made. |
|
|
|
I don't know how 'cold blooded 'it is to carry a gun that cant kill anyone but can get you killed sounds more like 'desperate' to me,, but we are all free to our own narrative/perspective http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/29/alaska-boy-6-fatally-shoots-girl-with-pellet-gun/ http://m.newser.com/story/192742/best-friend-kills-boy-12-with-pellet-gun.html I could find more but I think my point is made. yes, that kids have accidents with guns but most cold blooded adults are very capable of understanding the best way to eliminate life easily,,, |
|
|
|
Edited by
Conrad_73
on
Thu 09/04/14 02:03 AM
|
|
nah, I just know 'cold blooded' folks tend to carry the real thing as they have no problem with taking lives seems this person was far less 'cold blooded' than desperate and criminal but as I said,, narrative is subjective, I rejoice in the humanity of even 'criminals' , or else he could have just walked into a school with a REAL gun and a 'cold heart' and started blowing kids away I find it hard to rejoice in deaths, but if that's the hobby others choose,, it is a free country REAL Gun? How REAL do you want it? While both BB guns and Pellet guns are dangerous the Pellet gun or rifle is far more dangerous that a BB gun. BB are round projectiles that are hard and don't deform when they hit their target. They are fired from a smooth bore barrel like a tube, therefor they tumble as they fly through the air and that make them not very accurate. Pellet guns and rifles use a pellet that is softer but more deadly then a BB. The pellet is usually fired through a rifled barrel, meaning the barrel has grooves in it like a real gun barrel. The skirt on the back of the pellet catches the air that drives it down the barrel and the pellet spins in the barrel as it travels. This spinning causes it to fly straighter than any BB. BB's usually fly around 300 to 500 Feet per second depending on the power source. Pellet travel between 300 to 1400 feet per second, and have a harder impact. Pellets, because they are not as hard as BB, will deform when they hit their target and will usually kill the target very quickly where BB will often make the target suffer before death occurs. BB's only come in one size .175. Pellets come in various sizes like .177, .22 .25, 9mm, 45 Cal and 50 Cal. The last three sizes are fired from PCP ( PreCharges Pneumatic) Rifles. These are the Big Bore rifles that are capable of bringing down a Bear or Caribou. They use an air tank that is charged to 3000 PSI and will fire a slug (.50 Cal) around 800 Feet per second. If you look at a real bullet you will see that it is NOT made of iron but usually out of a softer material. This makes it deform when it hits it's target. Just like a Pellet. So a BB may be harder but pellets are far more stronger. http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_stronger_BB_gun_or_Pellet_gun |
|
|
|
Live by the sword die by the sword, tuff titty
|
|
|
|
Bodycams could have prevented all of this.
|
|
|
|
Everyone else who cose to pack like these guys would have prevented it to.
OR, Now, this is one sexy broad. If you notice. She practices safe weapon handling. I still wouldn't challenge her to a quick draw. |
|
|
|
Bodycams could have prevented all of this. no more than cops always prevent robberies or murders,, but its no less a great idea to have them.... |
|
|
|
Bodycams could have prevented all of this. no more than cops always prevent robberies or murders,, but its no less a great idea to have them.... I know, bodycams, how did we live without them? |
|
|