Topic: Why isn't the media covering the killing of an unarmed white
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Thu 08/28/14 06:56 AM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 08/28/14 06:57 AM
Won't happen as long as trash like these are idolized.

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Thu 08/28/14 07:01 AM







thanx to liberal AND conservative media

after all, fox started spreading the 'orbital socket' factoid,,,

I don't recall Sharpton stating much more than the FACT

that an armed officer shot an UNARMED TEEN

all of that is a FACT BASED STATEMENT,,,


If it was alleged just an unarmed teen then why did Sharpton go there ?



oh, have no doubt that at THIS event, in THIS community, the racial dynamic plays a part in the civil rights aspect regarding the community and police relations

and civil rights is where Sharpton has built his career


but its by no means the ONLY things Sharpton gets involved with,,,


Why do only black communities have "racial dynamics" and poor "police relations"? Perhaps these communities should look at their own racial dynamics before screaming racism.



study history a bit,,,,

hint: find white communities that are POLICED by black people,,for those 'racial dynamics' in their police relations,,,


hint: It's not 'racial dynamics' or police relations.

This is a black problem. Blacks and black communities need to realize where and what their real problems are and stop blaming whitey. Blacks need to get a check on their own racism.




:thumbsup:

The black community should realize that creating 18 year old robbers who strong arm their victims is a community problem ... not someone else's fault.



who said his 'crimes' were someone elses fault? His DEATH was someone elses fault. Two separate issues. Please try to stop confusing them.

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Thu 08/28/14 07:29 AM








thanx to liberal AND conservative media

after all, fox started spreading the 'orbital socket' factoid,,,

I don't recall Sharpton stating much more than the FACT

that an armed officer shot an UNARMED TEEN

all of that is a FACT BASED STATEMENT,,,


If it was alleged just an unarmed teen then why did Sharpton go there ?



oh, have no doubt that at THIS event, in THIS community, the racial dynamic plays a part in the civil rights aspect regarding the community and police relations

and civil rights is where Sharpton has built his career


but its by no means the ONLY things Sharpton gets involved with,,,


Why do only black communities have "racial dynamics" and poor "police relations"? Perhaps these communities should look at their own racial dynamics before screaming racism.



study history a bit,,,,

hint: find white communities that are POLICED by black people,,for those 'racial dynamics' in their police relations,,,


hint: It's not 'racial dynamics' or police relations.

This is a black problem. Blacks and black communities need to realize where and what their real problems are and stop blaming whitey. Blacks need to get a check on their own racism.




:thumbsup:

The black community should realize that creating 18 year old robbers who strong arm their victims is a community problem ... not someone else's fault.



who said his 'crimes' were someone elses fault? His DEATH was someone elses fault. Two separate issues. Please try to stop confusing them.


Ms, your the one trying to confuse things. slaphead

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Thu 08/28/14 07:34 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 08/28/14 07:33 AM
PROVE IT,,,,

PROVE someone blamed someone else for his behavior in the store,, or blamed someone else for his resisting arrest?


the BLAME here is regarding whether someone needed to SHOOT DOWN AN unarmed teen

and whether the police handled it justly and honestly


,,the consensus amongst those upset by his execution is NO

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Thu 08/28/14 07:39 AM

PROVE IT,,,,

PROVE someone blamed someone else for his behavior in the store,, or blamed someone else for his resisting arrest?


the BLAME here is regarding whether someone needed to SHOOT DOWN AN unarmed teen

and whether the police handled it justly and honestly


,,the consensus amongst those upset by his execution is NO


Then why the BLAME before the fact are fully known?

,,the consensus amongst law abiding citizens is it was justified.

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/28/14 07:43 AM
WHY?

because one person had a weapon, and the other person did not

because one person was a TRAINED adult and the other was just literally out of high school

because there are no answers for the family of the deceased except that he allegedly robbed a store and grabbed and pushed a clerk,,but he was not SHOT At the scene of the store

there is no answer for the family of the deceased except that he allegedly visciously attacked the officer, but he was not SHOT near where this allegedly viscious attack happened , but YARDS away

there are witnesses claiming to have seen this officer APPROACHING this 'deadly threat', while he was still facing him and gunning him down


BEAUSE there was a deceased teen lying on the ground for hours without the DECENCY of covering him up

BECAUSE There is no incident report available documenting the officers claims or the observations made by the authorities who were out there for HOURS with the body

BECAUSE There is NO EVIDENCE of this viscious beating that allegedly was the justification for this TRAINED adult to fear for his very life enough to shoot an unarmed person dead

BECAUSE THIS community has had longstanding problems with their relationship with the POLICE


,,,enough reasons yet? the POLICE in this community are who are being BLAMED, for how they are handling this teens DEATH,,,,

willing2's photo
Thu 08/28/14 07:47 AM
How did this get turned into another deadass Brown thread?

And, where are the mods cleaning out the off topic comments?

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/28/14 07:51 AM
smh

the op is a COMPARISON of two cases,, one of those is the BROWN case,,,

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Thu 08/28/14 07:55 AM

WHY?

because one person had a weapon, and the other person did not

because one person was a TRAINED adult and the other was just literally out of high school

because there are no answers for the family of the deceased except that he allegedly robbed a store and grabbed and pushed a clerk,,but he was not SHOT At the scene of the store

there is no answer for the family of the deceased except that he allegedly visciously attacked the officer, but he was not SHOT near where this allegedly viscious attack happened , but YARDS away

there are witnesses claiming to have seen this officer APPROACHING this 'deadly threat', while he was still facing him and gunning him down


BEAUSE there was a deceased teen lying on the ground for hours without the DECENCY of covering him up

BECAUSE There is no incident report available documenting the officers claims or the observations made by the authorities who were out there for HOURS with the body

BECAUSE There is NO EVIDENCE of this viscious beating that allegedly was the justification for this TRAINED adult to fear for his very life enough to shoot an unarmed person dead

BECAUSE THIS community has had longstanding problems with their relationship with the POLICE


,,,enough reasons yet? the POLICE in this community are who are being BLAMED, for how they are handling this teens DEATH,,,,


The black community should also share the BLAME for creating an environment that breeds this type of tragic event. Blacks need to stop blaming, screaming racism and look at themselves for the answers.

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Thu 08/28/14 07:56 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 08/28/14 07:57 AM
oh seriously?

should the 'white' community blame themselves for the 'environment' that creates situations where their kids commit mass shootings?

crime exists in ALL communities,, none of that is an excuse or justification for the choice to gun down unarmed people,,,,

its amazing that 98 percent of blacks continue to live in peace and coexist

be happy that all most do is 'complain' about the things they face,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/28/14 08:05 AM







thanx to liberal AND conservative media

after all, fox started spreading the 'orbital socket' factoid,,,

I don't recall Sharpton stating much more than the FACT

that an armed officer shot an UNARMED TEEN

all of that is a FACT BASED STATEMENT,,,


If it was alleged just an unarmed teen then why did Sharpton go there ?



oh, have no doubt that at THIS event, in THIS community, the racial dynamic plays a part in the civil rights aspect regarding the community and police relations

and civil rights is where Sharpton has built his career


but its by no means the ONLY things Sharpton gets involved with,,,


Why do only black communities have "racial dynamics" and poor "police relations"? Perhaps these communities should look at their own racial dynamics before screaming racism.



study history a bit,,,,

hint: find white communities that are POLICED by black people,,for those 'racial dynamics' in their police relations,,,


hint: It's not 'racial dynamics' or police relations.

This is a black problem. Blacks and black communities need to realize where and what their real problems are and stop blaming whitey. Blacks need to get a check on their own racism.




:thumbsup:

The black community should realize that creating 18 year old robbers who strong arm their victims is a community problem ... not someone else's fault.



frustrated frustrated frustrated


are yall serious right now?

no one is DISPUTING that robbing is illegal/wrong, no one is DISPUTING THat bullying is wrong

that has NOTHING to do with what this is about

Had he faced charges, or gone to jail for his crimes, not ONE PERSON Would be saying what he did was not a problem

and the 'black community' does regularly address and try to come up with initiatives and programs to curb such behaviors


BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE THAT IS CAUSING FRUSTRATION AND PROTEST



it is a SHOOTERS fault if he decides to gun down an unarmed person PERIOD FULL STOP


THAT IS THE PRIMARY START OF THE ISSUE HERE, and then how police HANDLE The death of young unarmed black teen,, and specifically how FERGUSON police have treated black people there

these are at ISSUE with THAT COMMUNITY



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Thu 08/28/14 08:21 AM








thanx to liberal AND conservative media

after all, fox started spreading the 'orbital socket' factoid,,,

I don't recall Sharpton stating much more than the FACT

that an armed officer shot an UNARMED TEEN

all of that is a FACT BASED STATEMENT,,,


If it was alleged just an unarmed teen then why did Sharpton go there ?



oh, have no doubt that at THIS event, in THIS community, the racial dynamic plays a part in the civil rights aspect regarding the community and police relations

and civil rights is where Sharpton has built his career


but its by no means the ONLY things Sharpton gets involved with,,,


Why do only black communities have "racial dynamics" and poor "police relations"? Perhaps these communities should look at their own racial dynamics before screaming racism.



study history a bit,,,,

hint: find white communities that are POLICED by black people,,for those 'racial dynamics' in their police relations,,,


hint: It's not 'racial dynamics' or police relations.

This is a black problem. Blacks and black communities need to realize where and what their real problems are and stop blaming whitey. Blacks need to get a check on their own racism.




:thumbsup:

The black community should realize that creating 18 year old robbers who strong arm their victims is a community problem ... not someone else's fault.



frustrated frustrated frustrated


are yall serious right now?

no one is DISPUTING that robbing is illegal/wrong, no one is DISPUTING THat bullying is wrong

that has NOTHING to do with what this is about

Had he faced charges, or gone to jail for his crimes, not ONE PERSON Would be saying what he did was not a problem

and the 'black community' does regularly address and try to come up with initiatives and programs to curb such behaviors


BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE THAT IS CAUSING FRUSTRATION AND PROTEST



it is a SHOOTERS fault if he decides to gun down an unarmed person PERIOD FULL STOP


THAT IS THE PRIMARY START OF THE ISSUE HERE, and then how police HANDLE The death of young unarmed black teen,, and specifically how FERGUSON police have treated black people there

these are at ISSUE with THAT COMMUNITY



Until blacks stop blaming everyone but themselves, things will not change.

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/28/14 08:54 AM









thanx to liberal AND conservative media

after all, fox started spreading the 'orbital socket' factoid,,,

I don't recall Sharpton stating much more than the FACT

that an armed officer shot an UNARMED TEEN

all of that is a FACT BASED STATEMENT,,,


If it was alleged just an unarmed teen then why did Sharpton go there ?



oh, have no doubt that at THIS event, in THIS community, the racial dynamic plays a part in the civil rights aspect regarding the community and police relations

and civil rights is where Sharpton has built his career


but its by no means the ONLY things Sharpton gets involved with,,,


Why do only black communities have "racial dynamics" and poor "police relations"? Perhaps these communities should look at their own racial dynamics before screaming racism.



study history a bit,,,,

hint: find white communities that are POLICED by black people,,for those 'racial dynamics' in their police relations,,,


hint: It's not 'racial dynamics' or police relations.

This is a black problem. Blacks and black communities need to realize where and what their real problems are and stop blaming whitey. Blacks need to get a check on their own racism.




:thumbsup:

The black community should realize that creating 18 year old robbers who strong arm their victims is a community problem ... not someone else's fault.



frustrated frustrated frustrated


are yall serious right now?

no one is DISPUTING that robbing is illegal/wrong, no one is DISPUTING THat bullying is wrong

that has NOTHING to do with what this is about

Had he faced charges, or gone to jail for his crimes, not ONE PERSON Would be saying what he did was not a problem

and the 'black community' does regularly address and try to come up with initiatives and programs to curb such behaviors


BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE THAT IS CAUSING FRUSTRATION AND PROTEST



it is a SHOOTERS fault if he decides to gun down an unarmed person PERIOD FULL STOP


THAT IS THE PRIMARY START OF THE ISSUE HERE, and then how police HANDLE The death of young unarmed black teen,, and specifically how FERGUSON police have treated black people there

these are at ISSUE with THAT COMMUNITY



Until blacks stop blaming everyone but themselves, things will not change.



until whites stop making ridiculous accusations like 'blacks blame everyone but themselves' as excuse to do nothing,,,things will not change,,,

people of all races realized discrimination was wrong during slavery and it changed,, people realized discrimination was wrong during jim crow and it changed

what takes change is for people to come TOGETHER to change things,, but when things are not harming us directly, it is easy to not need to know or care,,,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/28/14 09:41 AM
isn't it so strange how people are so tired of crooks and criminals blaming their parents or how they were raised for their choices

but some of the same people feel free to do just that when those crooks or criminals wind up unarmed and dead,,,,and not just blame them for that persons behavior but for someone ELSES decision to kill them

things that make you go,,hmmmmmmmm

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Thu 08/28/14 09:41 AM
Edited by alleoops on Thu 08/28/14 09:44 AM



Still blaming someone or something else.slaphead

Spend some time learning from one who speaks the truth and maybe you will understand what caused slavery, what caused discrimination, what caused apartheid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1sJDhJ-6iE

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 08/28/14 10:58 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 08/28/14 10:59 AM

WHY?

because one person had a weapon, and the other person did not

because one person was a TRAINED adult and the other was just literally out of high school

because there are no answers for the family of the deceased except that he allegedly robbed a store and grabbed and pushed a clerk,,but he was not SHOT At the scene of the store

there is no answer for the family of the deceased except that he allegedly visciously attacked the officer, but he was not SHOT near where this allegedly viscious attack happened , but YARDS away

there are witnesses claiming to have seen this officer APPROACHING this 'deadly threat', while he was still facing him and gunning him down


BEAUSE there was a deceased teen lying on the ground for hours without the DECENCY of covering him up

BECAUSE There is no incident report available documenting the officers claims or the observations made by the authorities who were out there for HOURS with the body

BECAUSE There is NO EVIDENCE of this viscious beating that allegedly was the justification for this TRAINED adult to fear for his very life enough to shoot an unarmed person dead

BECAUSE THIS community has had longstanding problems with their relationship with the POLICE


,,,enough reasons yet? the POLICE in this community are who are being BLAMED, for how they are handling this teens DEATH,,,,


I still have no opinion on who is guilty in this case. If the brown had his hands up, and was being compliant, than the officer is guilty of murder. If Brown was charging at the officer, than the shooting was justified.

My problem is with bias. Terms like"trained adult" or "unarmed teen" allude to Brown was an innocent young child with no means to protect himself and the officer had multiple ways to safely handle him. One could also call Brown a violent criminal, but this too would call attention away from the question of whether or not Brown was a threat (or there was reason to believe he was a threat) at the time he was shot.

I will say again, training does not make you super human. And being a "teen" (technically an adult), is not an indicator of someone's potential threat. I know many who have killed when they were 18/19 years of age. They too were just out of high school.

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Thu 08/28/14 11:05 AM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Thu 08/28/14 11:08 AM

The black community should also share the BLAME for creating an environment that breeds this type of tragic event. Blacks need to stop blaming, screaming racism and look at themselves for the answers.


That's kinda BS.

It's an economic problem. Look at Detroit.

Blame Bush beginning with NAFTA. Let's make a country of restaurante workers. WTF? No jobs. What do you expect. First the inner cities go to hell. Just what they want. Easier to create dissent amongst racial grouping in the inner cities. Control. Weaken them. Works perfectly when you take away their money.

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Thu 08/28/14 11:09 AM
trained adult, is a person no longer a child or teen who has received training for handling themselves

unarmed teen, is a person who is still their teen years and has no weapon


I agree, violent would also fit based upon his pushing and shoving a clerk and resisting arrest

'criminal' is disputable as he has no criminal record

I agree,obviously, training does not make you a superhuman, yet it is expected to put you at an advantage above NOT being trained

and being a teen is an indicator of unaged

and unarmed is an indicator of whether one has the means to do damage and from how far,,,,


nothing but facts that a trained adult killed an unarmed teen


whether he was 'threat' that justified it is and will be debated for years to come

msharmony's photo
Thu 08/28/14 11:14 AM




Still blaming someone or something else.slaphead

Spend some time learning from one who speaks the truth and maybe you will understand what caused slavery, what caused discrimination, what caused apartheid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1sJDhJ-6iE



what is there to learn,

that ignorance is alive and well and considered by some as 'truth'


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Thu 08/28/14 12:49 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 08/28/14 12:49 PM

trained adult, is a person no longer a child or teen who has received training for handling themselves

unarmed teen, is a person who is still their teen years and has no weapon


I agree, violent would also fit based upon his pushing and shoving a clerk and resisting arrest

'criminal' is disputable as he has no criminal record

I agree,obviously, training does not make you a superhuman, yet it is expected to put you at an advantage above NOT being trained

and being a teen is an indicator of unaged

and unarmed is an indicator of whether one has the means to do damage and from how far,,,,


nothing but facts that a trained adult killed an unarmed teen


whether he was 'threat' that justified it is and will be debated for years to come


Again, these terms are misleading. Similar to those insurance commercials saying "50% of people switching to us over other leading insurance agencies saved an average of $500 a year". The information is true, but very misleading as it tells only a very small truth that leads you away from reality.

Here is another fact: That cop had no way of knowing he was facing a teen. He also had no way of knowing if Brown was trained or not. Therefore, you treat the person as if they are a trained adult.