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| Topic: Non-violence : what's your answer to this | |
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I'm NORMALLY a non-violent person but when you scare the hell outta me and my adrenalin starts surgin'...I'll knock your *** flat!! LOL I've done it before, but not to a "bad guy"...More like family that thought it would be funny to scare me, and once to a dentist that tried to yank a tooth out before it was fully numb!! lol
So yea, I'd very likely pick up the bat and re-arrange his thought process for him...permanently!! LOL |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Wed 07/16/14 08:57 AM
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not surprising! 
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Edited by
mysticalview21
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Wed 07/16/14 09:44 AM
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I believe in self defiance op...
becouse that is what my life has been like and raised that way ... and especially if they come into my home... I can get pretty irate if some one threatens me or my family ... + I have not had that security of a man to take up for me in many situations ... so I felt I had to be the strong one... an have put myself in some dangerous situations becouse of what some do ... that is not right ... + my bat is in the car ... case I have to play base ball ... I am pretty non violent other then that ... 
+ I found the state gets here pretty damn fast !
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not surprising!
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pay no mind to what she said.belittling believers is how non-believers get their jollies off And belittling non-believers with ignorant speculations about their motives is what gets you off? --------------------- what people want to believe in and what they don't want to believe in really isn't any of your concern.does someone believing in a God effect your life some way? Yes, actually. Every damn day. Not to mention that the kind of ignorance and irrationality necessary to support this belief has further consequences of its own, in other areas. |
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Edited by
massagetrade
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Wed 07/16/14 10:04 AM
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But in a Scenario,like the one brought up by the OP,such belief could very well be extremely detrimental to the life of the intended Victim! Yes, exactly. And in other situations, this 'faith in god' to save people from the evil actions of other people doesn't just de-motivate some victims from protecting themselves... ... it de-motivates some people from protecting and helping others. |
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Edited by
massagetrade
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Wed 07/16/14 10:05 AM
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just think you're a follower of Non-violence, A burglar breaks into your house to hurt you and your family with a knife, There's a base-ball stick near you. what will you do????? 
I've been attacked many times in my life, and in all situations I used the minimum amount of force to defend myself. In some cases the assailant (strangers in all cases) actually became ashamed and apologetic, which is a surreal experience. I've never had to defend someone else in a significant way, but I've noticed that I become a lot angrier if someone threatens someone I love than if they threaten me. I could see myself using 'excessive' force to defend someone I love, and even doing so with overt hostility or hatred toward the aggressor. No matter who you are defending, though, I think its perfectly righteous to use deadly force, if that's what you choose or what you are comfortable with, in self defence situations like these. The other party is the aggressor who created the dangerous situation. If they are harmed or lose their life, ultimately its their own fault. |
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Edited by
mysticalview21
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Wed 07/16/14 10:16 AM
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op what about children called key latch kids ...
home alone after school before the parent or guardian gets there ... I was one and really thought nothing of it at the time ... today is a different kind of day for them ... cool... is all u have to do is click on the no. of post we have posted and can read them with out going in to their site ... 
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I am a non violent person. I HATE fighting and will do all that I can to prevent violence. But I value my family and if left no other option I will fight to protect them. OP asks what I would do. Here is what I did... 4 am my phone rang. I ignored the call but had full bladder. So I left comfy bed. I hear scratching noise. See mans shadow in back door window. I stay quiet and keep all lights off. I call cops. I quietly put heavy objects behind door to help prevent entry. I grabbed nearest weapon for last defence. And I wait. Cops came he was arrested non-violently. Turned out to be my son's dad whom I had broken up with 2 weeks prior. He was wearing gloves and had a foot long kitchen knife. Moral if the story is play it smart and calm. Try non violent solution first but do not be afraid to protect yourself and those you love.
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not surprising!
You do realize whilst colloquially amusing, in pragmatic terms this is completely retarded as much as a nun trying to stand up to a waffen-ss trooper with an attitude. Guns don't mean **** when you're completely outmatched and kiddo, little old grannies are completely outmatched by active toddlers. Arming one with a plethora of firearms is dumb street in a pickup truck. Why not just open her trunk with a big sign saying, "Get your handguns here boys." the fck o_o |
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I've a background in youth homelessness and associated shelters, gang cribs and junkie pads let you sleep better at night but at those places by adulthood I'd had serious guns pulled on me twice whilst unarmed (I learned to be usually very, very armed), one biker pad I thought was a good mate looking out for me accused me of stealing his gunja stash with all his mates around the living room, one of the walls in this room is literally plastered with his mounted guns ranging from percussion shotguns to magnums. I had to go him to prove it wasn't me, and he's twice my size and twice my age, I'm a kid, he's a bloke with serious mates, way out of my depth, but I'm right, and it's all emotion there. Yeah I was damn lucky in one sense, just honest in another.
Hey I found I was on him before he even finished his thought, it could've turned bad but it came out all good. That was nice, I thought I was gone. But like a couple of other real times when you actually see first hand what really goes one when this stuff happens, the real thing that actually happens, is bloke aint right, guns don't matter. People don't get that until you know and the majority of gun owners just don't. You fricken don't. You don't. You know you don't. |
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Hey and I was going to on about a bunch of other serious kill you fights, knife fights, the mugger fight I had, the two guys a gang sent to kill me, a gang leader that was supposed to be a fight but turned out into "we both practise the same martial art so we're cool mate", it's all just talk stuff that doesn't matter really.
It's fair dinkum, this is just as real as your crips versus bloods or whatever the fk. Ask one of them if guns mean crap. |
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Oh hey yeah, no lie. In a handshake to christians I'd say this with every honest fibre. I won every fight, as in lived when I knew I was dead a dozen times, no way out, no way anyone gets out of this, every time, every. time. Because. Because I was non-violent. Being a violent nature, I'd have been dead the very first time luck ran out which is like ten minutes into about the second time anything like this ever happens to anyone.
And that's the truth. And that's the truth about non-violence. Know it, mean it. Learn it. |
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a bullet from granny is no different than a bullet from anyone else as long as she can aim and pull the trigger....there have been stories about elderly folk killing intruders ....or just neighbors they were annoyed with cuz of a jumpy trigger finger due to feeling otherwise helpless.
If anything I'd be all the more careful because I think she'd be more pat to shoot first and ask questions later. Due to age and possibly feeling outmatched she will prolly be jumpy on the trigger. If she got her concealed carry in Ohio, she's a good shot. overconfidence will be a downfall and is almost always a mistake, as is underestimating others |
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You don't understand anyone when you're concerned with the guns.
Kids feel it quicker and react to it quicker and grannie is still playing catchup on wth is going on right now. You might just as well say elderly people have years of driving experience so drive better but put them on a racetrack and it's the young quick rising stars that just completely overwhelm them in any vehicle. That's just how it plays out. Can't beat time lady, and if that's your enemy it aint me. We're just the reapers. Spoken as a colloquial of course. I'd never harm anyone. People choose their own fates, I'm a helper. A facilitator like anyone good. |
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You don't understand anyone when you're concerned with the guns. Kids feel it quicker and react to it quicker and grannie is still playing catchup on wth is going on right now. You might just as well say elderly people have years of driving experience so drive better but put them on a racetrack and it's the young quick rising stars that just completely overwhelm them in any vehicle. That's just how it plays out. Can't beat time lady, and if that's your enemy it aint me. We're just the reapers. Spoken as a colloquial of course. I'd never harm anyone. People choose their own fates, I'm a helper. A facilitator like anyone good. I don;t understand? Perhaps not, but why would I personally understand less than anyone else? well, I guess I think anyone with a weapon can be dangerous so I will stick with my own opinion. tho you make good points about youth too. I agree with what you say....just that I also believe it could be a mistake to underestimate someone due to their age etc. especially with small pistols....granny prolly can't hoist an AK but a 9mm pistol is not that big. As far as time, that is exactly what I said...the bullet is gonna travel at the same speed no matter who pulls the trigger. have a nice day 
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not surprising!
You do realize whilst colloquially amusing, in pragmatic terms this is completely retarded as much as a nun trying to stand up to a waffen-ss trooper with an attitude. Guns don't mean **** when you're completely outmatched and kiddo, little old grannies are completely outmatched by active toddlers. Arming one with a plethora of firearms is dumb street in a pickup truck. Why not just open her trunk with a big sign saying, "Get your handguns here boys." the fck o_o Sour Grapes?
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just think you're a follower of Non-violence, A burglar breaks into your house to hurt you and your family with a knife, There's a base-ball stick near you. what will you do?????
last time I commented I told you it depends on the situation. now I have a concrete example. a guy backed into my car yesterday morning as I had arrived to work. he had just dropped off a new kid at our office. they didn't hit my car that hard, plus it's old so I don't care about one more little dent. but 2 people got out and came at me with a big attitude even though it was their fault. I believe in non violence and was trying to deescalate the situation. but when it looked like id have the guy attack me from one side and the woman from the other, I already had a plan where I could duck his swing and break his foot and at least punch her enough to leave her winded to have a fighting chance to move to safety. my coworkers were there but not close enough to help if the guy threw the first punch. |
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I would try not to trip over the bat on my way to get my non-violent gun. |
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I would try not to trip over the bat on my way to get my non-violent gun. 
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