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Topic: Transgenerational memories passed down through DNA
Amoscarine's photo
Sat 03/29/14 11:45 AM
What do you mean about cells uploading info, like they have a hardrive and then present it to an environment and then the result is sickness, in this case?

And this doesn't have anything to do with research really, cancer of the breast goes back at least 2 generations on my mums side. Maybe my great, great too, but I just asked about her and don't know yet. Either way, i am wary of having kids just because I think that even if I have a boy, it could pass the faulty gene material or expression on to its female offspring. I know there is still the chance that I could get the cancer as well. So I don't have a solid way of knowing, but I am sure enough not to want to have kiddos because of this, among other reasons.
It is unfortunate, but as long as we continue to stir the earth up, cancer rates will increase.

The main question I see is what is the mechanism that lets this information go from the DNA to the brain to there be interpreted. The other, more spiritual side, would be how can ancestors wisdom be conveyed to a new body. Perhaps they will one day be the same, if chemistry and biology continue to develop greatly. \

Information may be stored in the DNA. hmm, Have to read some FQXI essay now: http://www.fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/Sprock_THE_SPIRITUAL_BIG_BA.pdf That is quite a mythology! But anyway, perhaps DNA is a sort of duplicate but split record of how to build a body, and once that body is establishes, it interacts with the environment in a way that events happen like they did in the parents life, and so the information is different because it is a new mix and able to find another expression in the environment that the parent may not have an outlet for. I guess one could say heredity provides tendencies, but not a fortune teller. I don't know if it is any closer, but it could be that the cell division, all the way throughout life, enables the body to interact in such a way and it runs into resistances which it conveys to the nervous system, and particular the senses. Then the mind reaches out and says this is mine, that is not, and so makes some information. But if the self is expanded, I mean if you start to feel at one with everyone, then you could feel others, or at least say everyone is me, I am alone. If that is the case, then many bodies could be be interpreted with one intellect or mind, if it was made sensitive enough. One could inherit ancestors pasts of others, even when the source isn't just a body. Say it is a location that holds such a physical form, and then it can be interpreted as a spiritual place by a sensitive being. Then they could take a heredity from a place even. With these medical studies, it is just that a certain body, which is preserved through generations by DNA (I mean, your nose is your fathers or lips your mothers, or grandfathers....)and it is on hand, so to speak for the mind to inherit dispositions. Since the mind is used here, perhaps that is why mental illness is tied into cancer outcomes and getting it too. If this reasoning is right, then one could inherit tendencies from any individual, not just the family line, if they were not getting there info and the low down just from there body memory. The body is like a snowflake, every twist and turn is stored in a unique form, and it doesn't forget any weather condition or impurity- it is frozen in. I guess body is just dominant because people limit their access to that. But if any of the above works, there could be illness of health inherited from anyone one person to another regardless of blood. There could be social sicknesses

willing2's photo
Tue 04/08/14 08:16 PM
I've been saying for years, all the sperm that enters the women's canal all carry information from all the males ansestors.
Thoughts, experiences, etc., from the beginning of creation.

The egg has the same gene memories.

It can be explained as simply as de je vous.

One may not have personally lived that experience but, an ancestor could have had it and the live person recalls it.

Amoscarine's photo
Sat 04/12/14 08:21 AM


The mind remembers only certain things. The body remembers everything. The information it carries goes back to the beginning of existence.



-Sadhguru

no1phD's photo
Sat 04/12/14 08:30 AM
.. your mind and body communicate with each other correct.. so you might say theyre speaking to one another.. a dialogue is going on... even without your consent...hmm..
.. fascinating..
. and how did they learn how to do this..
. didn't figure it out on their own..
. information would have had to be passed down the line somewhere...yes..
.. but I have to go right now my stomach. is telling my brain is hungry...laugh

Amoscarine's photo
Thu 04/17/14 08:05 PM
dat grey mass works best when the stomach is empty, but not when the body is starving. Just pay attention when you eat or snack, the mind quiets down............................
I can't really tie that into DNA memory, other then something complex takes place when food goes into a body, so line of events. If one understood how phenotypes worked all of the way, like in combination in the millions of interactions, the very process of digestion could be seen as a genetic function, like movement maybe, which just may be a profitable correlation of information and movement.... But yeah, the development of a vocabulary for genetic, offspring-to-offspring language must be somewhere supplemented.

metalwing's photo
Fri 04/25/14 09:21 AM
All the eggs a woman produces are there from the formation of her ovaries which are complete at birth. I don't see much change going on in the dna of those eggs during her lifetime.

A man produces sperm continuously. Each sperm is affected in some way by chance (each gets a random selection from each of his parents), chemistry (he may have spent too much time at the bar last night), diet (good or bad), and his environment. If he is a sacrificial worker at a failed nuclear power plant, the sperm are going to lose brothers rapidly.

But as to the learning ability of the sperm to adjust their dna daily so the potential offspring will know not to vote Democratic ... I doubt it.

Amoscarine's photo
Fri 04/25/14 10:35 AM
could the environment influence the dna already in the eggs? I don't know, but it seems at least plausible.

metalwing's photo
Sat 04/26/14 05:41 PM

could the environment influence the dna already in the eggs? I don't know, but it seems at least plausible.


I guess you could be bombarded with Cosmic Rays like the Fantastic Four and come out looking like the "Thing".

Amoscarine's photo
Sun 04/27/14 05:33 PM

.. your mind and body communicate with each other correct.. so you might say theyre speaking to one another.. a dialogue is going on... even without your consent...hmm..
.. fascinating..
. and how did they learn how to do this..
. didn't figure it out on their own..
. information would have had to be passed down the line somewhere...yes..
.. but I have to go right now my stomach. is telling my brain is hungry...laugh


IDK, I think in education, if we are talking about learning of any type, the mind remembers best when the person is left on their own to figure it out in the right kind of environment with proper resources. This so particularly with mathematics. There will be a fine generation, and hopefully more (that could be a world statement, no doubt ahahaah), of scientist in Sweden because of how their education system is structured like this for math and science at least. The cells and tiny automaton are likely a lot more intelligent then the brain as far as staying on task and using resources efficiently. I don't see it being so much of a problem. Einstein once said that it wasn't that he was so much smarter than his collegues, but that he was stubborn and stayed with a problem for longer. His special relativity took him from 16-18 until 26. He had his lightbeam rider daydream at 16, but likely didn't start his work on relativity until entering Zurich poly tech school at 17. First mentioned in a letter to his girl while in school or shortly after. His general theory took him 10-11 years. These cells or information exchanging entities have had billions of years to get down a working system. Even if a logical mind can't strictly understand, I am grateful for all of that which has been worked out through the eons to get the human race to where it is now.
Funky, thanks, but i did read that...

no photo
Fri 06/13/14 12:56 PM


I'm convinced cancer is in our DNA.
There's a professor called David Lane who is studying it now.
I'm not saying our DNA carries cancer, but I think some peoples DNA is open to cancer more than others.



Yes, it is almost certain that variations in dna from one person to another can influence those people's relative risk of developing certain kinds of cancer.

Amoscarine's photo
Thu 06/26/14 08:03 PM
heyah: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/10486479/Phobias-may-be-memories-passed-down-in-genes-from-ancestors.html

All this article means to me is that even though my *** isn't sore, I've been raped.

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Wed 07/02/14 12:10 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 07/02/14 12:13 PM
I do believe our DNA is different with our history some do not know there history so much can be learned from knowing that for each person ... for your health ... what op is describing in some since is... have we gotten someone else's memories and who's are they ... like tapping into a whole different time... like a deja vu and like you know something in your family... when none of them remember what you believe happened... have we all been reincarnated.. something to ask yourself ... having the feeling of anther's past life ... did we possibility inherit these memories from way back to again be someones else memories... there really is so many ? you can ask about this ... like I heard short people are not as smart as taller... now you can say possibly some... but I am sure not all ... some memories can come out from mediation ... and even look at those that can be hypnotized ... so you can say with this write ...anything can be possible for one with a open mind ...

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