There's special on where they think the Garden of Eden is, take a look now!

Excuse me the History International Canel!

channel???

Oh it's over now. Any way the special brought up some inconsistances in the book of Genesis. For instance if you read Genesis 1:27 "God created man in image of himself, in the image of God he created him, male and female."

He created male and female first at the same time.
But then in Genesis 2:18 Yahew God said, 'It is not right that the man should be alone. I shall make him a helper.'
2:21 Then, Yahew God made the man fall into a deep sleep. And while he was asleep, he took one of his ribs and closed the flesh up again forthwith.2:22 Yahweh God fashioned the rib taken for the man into a woman, and brought her to the man. 2:23 And the man said:
The one at last is bone of myu bones and flesh of my flesh! She is to be called Woman, because she was taken from Man.


From that set of lines there a double set of creation of a female and a woman.

Today we just say women to also include all females. But if you just read the line or your Bible here a two women, excuse me females in the Garden of Eden then. One when God created man at the same time and a second that was created from man, woman.

Dr. God creating clones from bones.

I wonder how much he charges? I could use a helpmate around here, plus I think it would be really cool to have a female clone of myself.

Some guys have all the luck!!!

Another interesting tid bit was the four streams that flow to the river that lead the way to eden. Those streams in the Bible were and I'm quoting from the bible 2:11 'The first is named Pishon, and this winds all the through the land of Havilah where there is gold. 2:13 The second river is named the Gihon, and this winds all through the land of Cush. 2:14 The third is can the Tigris, and this flows to the east of Ashur. The fourth river is the Euphrates.

Now the Tigris and Euphrates is in present day Iraq, but there are no where abouts of Gihon and Pishon. But satilite photos of the Persian Gulf show remains of dried up river deltas. Those dried up deltas are near point where the Tigris and Euphrates emptied in the gulf. What sciencist theorized that several thousand years ago the sea level where the four river met was much lower. Then as global climatic changes occur the area where the river met got flooded. And indeed the Bible said the Eden was lost in a flood, Noah's flood.

Apparently this is information shows that the is a corealation of geolocial sciencitfic theory and Biblical history that support each other.

Abra please don't think I'm joking around, I'm merely speaking in archaeological and anthorpoloical terms. The special suggest that many of the Bible stories are plagerize from much older and anticent story of Gilamesh who search for the tree which fruit gave eternal life. The tree was within reach of Gilamesh but a snake trick him and cast him from the garden of the tree of life.

read the 12th Planet by Zecharia Sitchen....interesting theory on eden and the birth of man

This doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. We know that the stories in the Bible were, in fact, written by people living on the earth in ancient times. The fact that they would describe landscapes that they were surrounded by shouldn’t be a surprise. It only proves that the stories are indeed old. But we already know that.

That would be like saying that Mt. Olympus proves Greek Mythology. You realize, I hope, that to the ancient Greeks it wasn’t “mythology” at all. To them it was a very real religion. There are tons of artifacts associated with Greek Mythology. The stories may have been based on superstitions, but those superstitions were seriously believed by the authors of the stories.

For me the Bible is no differnet. I expect that there will be real historical events associated with the stories in the Bible. In fact, I would be utterly shocked if there were none. But that kind of “evidence” doesn’t support any divine intervention. All it supports is that the authors really did write these stories long ago. I don’t question that and never have.

I seriously don’t care what other people believe. But at the same time I’ll be glad to share my reasons why I believe that it’s totally man-made mythology.

My biggest reason of all is that I simply don’t believe that the creator of this universe would act in the ways described in the Bible. I could go on and on and on about that, but in all honestly I’m really not interested in typing it all out.

And talking about being serious, I was. I really would like to have a female clone of myself. I would treat her as an equal and appreciate her for the loving compassionate person she would be. So I’m not joking when I say that Adam was lucky if god actually did that for him.

If god is capable of coming down to earth and doing this for living men then I seriously wish he would do it for me. Amen!

One last thing. Surely god is at least as light-hearted, compassionate, and understanding as I am. I can’t possibly be superior to god in any of those areas. So if god is real he’s not going to be a stuffed shirt about it because that would be lesser than me. Seriously. God can’t be lesser than me. And I’m a light-hearted, loving, caring, easy-going person. So god has to have me beat in all those areas!

In short, God has to be a nicer than me!!!!

Yet, the self-proclaimed jealous god depicted in the Bible that drowned all of humanity in a flood sure doesn’t sound as nice as me. There’s something seriously wrong with that picture.

That "petty" God always bothered me too, Abra. The only theory I can come up with to deal with that though is that man tried to believe he was more God-like than he was. In trying to understand the reason/cause of the flood and why God would send it as that was the only explanation the man telling that particular story could even remotely comprehend. I do not believe that man or more than like men had any concept of "natural cause/weather" at that time.

Plus if you think about it, an all loving God was a hugely new concept compared to the ways the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian Gods all acted in their stories. There was obviously still a huge problem with it by the time Jesus started strollin around with his ideas of what God was like.

Hey the special is back on the History International Channel again, check your listings.

I'd seriously love to watch it FF. I'm sure it's quite interesting. I would enjoy watching it even though I don't believe in divine intervention.

Unfortunately I don't have a TV.

I live a VERY back-to-basics lifestyle. I do have a computer, but even it is an antique and I'm on a really cruddy dial-up line.

the problem is when we don't want to think beyond.
nevertheless, that is your train of thought not mine.

Easy, Walker, I did say that is how man probably thought back then. Although I did not specifically say so, I do believe man has come a long way in his thought processes.

did i say your name?
i was addressing the thread in general

Nope!!

i'm sorry if my prior statement was misleading then

No problem. I may very well be heading into my oversensitive zone. We've misunderstood each other before we more than likely will again. I just wanted to make sure I hadn't inadvertently offended you.