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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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More BS forced down our throats!!! 
It seems to be carefully crafted pure propaganda designed to affect how the children think. That is exactly what it is!!.. Common Core is another attempt to gain information and downplay fundamental differences....It is just one more underhanded attempt to standardize America, make her easer to "manage"...Data collection is a key element in the process.... how does it work to "gain information" ? (this is the first I have heard of it) Think of it like a website tracking tool. When you search something on the internet all of a sudden you start receiving tons of spam email, with your name and location, trying to sell you any number of things similar to what you have recently searched. Common Core is malware of the mind. A virus |
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Television is conditioning Education is formulating Employment (or the lack of) is investment on division Politics/law is banker enforcement of all the above The Constitution was written (as some would say) as a living document, warning us of the corruption of democracy, or mob rule. Power in the hands of the few. That is why there was a separation of powers, a division of church and state. The Federalist papers, the Bill of rights, were like the ten commandments, a guide for the people, warning of the corruption into tyranny if these boundaries were ever exceeded and a means, by law, to correct such usurpations of the power of the people. As Ben Franklin once stated after the signing of our founding documents into law....."A Republic madam, if you can keep it.". Democracy is not mentioned in any of these documents for good reason. They limit the power of government, not the people. We have become what these documents were written in the hopes of avoiding, serfs to a ruling class of banker elites. Power in the hands of a few, over the many. Common Core is nothing more than training to bow to that will, to accept what we have become, not what was intended. The wheels of gov't turn slow for a reason. It is the boiling of the frog which leads to the demise of freedom and peoples rights. I always thought the wheels of gov't turned slow because they have 20,000 copies of 60,000 forms to fill out to move a desk....lol I understand this idea that common core is buying into some type of propaganda but no one has really explained how or what the message is supposed to be???? There is no message, only an agenda of conditioning to accept the rule of an oligarchy as the standard of life. The rule of Kings what oilgarchy schools have always had rules. how will these new rules be different? is it a different oligarchy....than the previous? they have always reported back to gov't agencies. |
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More BS forced down our throats!!!
It seems to be carefully crafted pure propaganda designed to affect how the children think. That is exactly what it is!!.. Common Core is another attempt to gain information and downplay fundamental differences....It is just one more underhanded attempt to standardize America, make her easer to "manage"...Data collection is a key element in the process.... how does it work to "gain information" ? (this is the first I have heard of it) Think of it like a website tracking tool. When you search something on the internet all of a sudden you start receiving tons of spam email, with your name and location, trying to sell you any number of things similar to what you have recently searched. Common Core is malware of the mind. A virus how do you know that is true? and you still have not explained how that will work? how will this "malware" invade the mind and what is in the malware....wht's that script? |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 12/13/13 07:37 AM
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More BS forced down our throats!!!
It seems to be carefully crafted pure propaganda designed to affect how the children think. That is exactly what it is!!.. Common Core is another attempt to gain information and downplay fundamental differences....It is just one more underhanded attempt to standardize America, make her easer to "manage"...Data collection is a key element in the process.... how does it work to "gain information" ? (this is the first I have heard of it) Think of it like a website tracking tool. When you search something on the internet all of a sudden you start receiving tons of spam email, with your name and location, trying to sell you any number of things similar to what you have recently searched. Common Core is malware of the mind. A virus how do you know that is true? and you still have not explained how that will work? how will this "malware" invade the mind and what is in the malware....wht's that script? They are building robots of our children. Think alike, act alike, no creativity or individuality. Hitler Youth. I don't know about you, but if we were all the same I think life would be a very boring existence. Zombies don't learn, they simply act out of programming. http://twg2a.wordpress.com/tag/common-core-is-evil/ First it was "No child left behind" which left kids graduating high school and not being able to read or write, now they want to give us common core, not to educate, but to program to an agenda. Any child that is different will be ridiculed, any act of individual thinking will be considered a flaw to be dealt with. Under common core, parents have no input to their childs education, and should they seek to alter that training, can even have the child removed from their care and subject to gov't sanctions, treated like an abusive parent under those standards. They are even trying to make home schooling illegal since it doesn't fit the agenda of common core. The horror stories are all over the internet already, but not in the commercial/corporate news much.... as is usually the case with anything that doesn't fit the lamestream agenda. Please, tell me one thing the gov't has become involved in that works..... other than war (wall street/corporate/banker profits are soring.) |
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Here is some stuff I just found on the net. I expected to find as much pro as con, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Begin Quote: Top 10 Reasons to Oppose Common Core [Click here for a PDF version.] 1. Common Core is a Federal Takeover of Education The ultimate goal of Common Core is to have every school district follow the same national standards. This is a failed educational approach that will undermine educational quality and choice. States and local communities better know how to design standards based on their students and parents’ needs than Washington bureaucrats. 2. Common Core is Bad for Parents Parents will not have a say in their child’s education under Common Core. They will not be able to suggest changes to their local school’s standards or enroll their child in another public school with better standards. Common Core would limit parental choice and shut their voices out of their child’s education. 3. Common Core is Bad for Teachers Teachers would have little control over their classrooms under Common Core. They will be forced to comply with standards decided upon by federal bureaucrat. This leaves little to no room for teachers to innovate to meet the unique needs of their students. 4. Common Core is Bad for Taxpayers Common Core has a hefty price tag that will be paid by taxpayers in states. Washington State Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction estimates that Common Core will cost the state $300 million. California Department of Education estimates it will cost $759 million to implement the nationalized standards. Common Core will cost taxpayers a lot of money while not improving education quality. 5. Common Core is Bad for Students Common Core is a one-size-fits-all education policy that assumes every students learns exactly the same. A top down and centrally controlled standards will hurt students’ creativity and learning. Good education policy realizes that all students have different learning styles, preferences, and paces. 6. Common Core Violates Privacy The Race to the Top Grants associated with Common Core violates privacy by “data mining” information about students that will follow them the rest of their lives. The information collected is more than just test scores and academic progress. Common Core will track information on religious practices, political beliefs, “sex behaviors and attitudes”, and more. 7. Common Core Resembles Failed No Child Left Behind Program A main criticism of the failed No Child Left Behind program is that teachers “teach the test.” This means that students are memorizing rather than learning and critical thinking about information. Common Core would resemble No Child Left Behind by requiring students to take national standardized tests to measure their progress. 8. Common Core is Unconstitutional The federal government should not control education. Since education is not specifically listed in the Constitution, the authority over education should be left up to the states and the people. This allows localities from New York City to rural Alabama to design unique curriculums that are best for their students. 9. Common Core Will Require Some States to Move Backwards Some states have advanced standards that are designed with students and parents in mind. Sandra Stotsky, a professor at the University of Arkansas, who served on the committee to validate Common Core standards said, “The standards dumb American education down by about two grades worth.” Some states would have to move their standards backwards to comply with Common Core standards. 10. Common Core Is a Failed Education Approach Washington has tried one-size-fits-all education approaches time and time again. Centralized education programs have not worked and will never work. The quality of education has only declined over the past few decades. The solution is to get the federal government out of the education business. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Fri 12/13/13 10:10 AM
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The only purpose of education is to teach a student how to live his life by developing his mind and equipping him to deal with reality. The training he needs is theoretical, i.e., conceptual. He has to be taught to think, to understand, to integrate, to prove. He has to be taught the essentials of the knowledge discovered in the past and he has to be equipped to acquire further knowledge by his own effort.
The academia-jet set coalition is attempting to tame the American character by the deliberate breeding of helplessness and resignation in those incubators of lethargy known as Progressive schools, which are dedicated to the task of crippling a child's mind by arresting his cognitive development. (See The Comprachicos in my book The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution.) It appears, however, that the progressive rich will be the first victims of their own social theories: it is the children of the well-to-do who emerge from expensive nursery schools and colleges as hippies, and destroy the remnants of their paralyzed brains by means of drugs. The middle class has created an antidote which is perhaps the most hopeful movement of recent years: the spontaneous, unorganized, grass-roots revival of the Montessori system of education,a system aimed at the development of a child's cognitive, i.e., rational, faculty. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/education.html http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/learning.html what they propose now was called "Gleichschaltung" in the Third Reich,(Lockstep)! |
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More BS forced down our throats!!!
It seems to be carefully crafted pure propaganda designed to affect how the children think. That is exactly what it is!!.. Common Core is another attempt to gain information and downplay fundamental differences....It is just one more underhanded attempt to standardize America, make her easer to "manage"...Data collection is a key element in the process.... how does it work to "gain information" ? (this is the first I have heard of it) Think of it like a website tracking tool. When you search something on the internet all of a sudden you start receiving tons of spam email, with your name and location, trying to sell you any number of things similar to what you have recently searched. Common Core is malware of the mind. A virus how do you know that is true? and you still have not explained how that will work? how will this "malware" invade the mind and what is in the malware....wht's that script? They are building robots of our children. Think alike, act alike, no creativity or individuality. Hitler Youth. I don't know about you, but if we were all the same I think life would be a very boring existence. Zombies don't learn, they simply act out of programming. http://twg2a.wordpress.com/tag/common-core-is-evil/ First it was "No child left behind" which left kids graduating high school and not being able to read or write, now they want to give us common core, not to educate, but to program to an agenda. Any child that is different will be ridiculed, any act of individual thinking will be considered a flaw to be dealt with. Under common core, parents have no input to their childs education, and should they seek to alter that training, can even have the child removed from their care and subject to gov't sanctions, treated like an abusive parent under those standards. They are even trying to make home schooling illegal since it doesn't fit the agenda of common core. The horror stories are all over the internet already, but not in the commercial/corporate news much.... as is usually the case with anything that doesn't fit the lamestream agenda. Please, tell me one thing the gov't has become involved in that works..... other than war (wall street/corporate/banker profits are soring.) I have seen many many examples of gov't programs working from education to environmental protection to child protection and public safety. but each time they "worked" or were successful, it was because the people or person at the local level, employed by the gov't was a good, competent individual(s). and so it goes as anywhere. sucess will equate with good, competent individuals. as long as parents take the time to have substantial input into their children's education, mountains will be moved that way. my own children as my best example. anything else is the risk we run when we abandon responsibility to our children, and hand it over to the government. I see that as being more the fault of disinterested parents than the gov't |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Sat 12/14/13 07:09 AM
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More BS forced down our throats!!!
It seems to be carefully crafted pure propaganda designed to affect how the children think. That is exactly what it is!!.. Common Core is another attempt to gain information and downplay fundamental differences....It is just one more underhanded attempt to standardize America, make her easer to "manage"...Data collection is a key element in the process.... how does it work to "gain information" ? (this is the first I have heard of it) Think of it like a website tracking tool. When you search something on the internet all of a sudden you start receiving tons of spam email, with your name and location, trying to sell you any number of things similar to what you have recently searched. Common Core is malware of the mind. A virus how do you know that is true? and you still have not explained how that will work? how will this "malware" invade the mind and what is in the malware....wht's that script? They are building robots of our children. Think alike, act alike, no creativity or individuality. Hitler Youth. I don't know about you, but if we were all the same I think life would be a very boring existence. Zombies don't learn, they simply act out of programming. http://twg2a.wordpress.com/tag/common-core-is-evil/ First it was "No child left behind" which left kids graduating high school and not being able to read or write, now they want to give us common core, not to educate, but to program to an agenda. Any child that is different will be ridiculed, any act of individual thinking will be considered a flaw to be dealt with. Under common core, parents have no input to their childs education, and should they seek to alter that training, can even have the child removed from their care and subject to gov't sanctions, treated like an abusive parent under those standards. They are even trying to make home schooling illegal since it doesn't fit the agenda of common core. The horror stories are all over the internet already, but not in the commercial/corporate news much.... as is usually the case with anything that doesn't fit the lamestream agenda. Please, tell me one thing the gov't has become involved in that works..... other than war (wall street/corporate/banker profits are soring.) I have seen many many examples of gov't programs working from education to environmental protection to child protection and public safety. but each time they "worked" or were successful, it was because the people or person at the local level, employed by the gov't was a good, competent individual(s). and so it goes as anywhere. sucess will equate with good, competent individuals. as long as parents take the time to have substantial input into their children's education, mountains will be moved that way. my own children as my best example. anything else is the risk we run when we abandon responsibility to our children, and hand it over to the government. I see that as being more the fault of disinterested parents than the gov't You really don't get it do you? 
Common Core is not about parental input, it's about gov't input with little regard for the student, the family, or anything about your "core" belief of what they should be And BTW.... everything you mentioned as a success..... is a proven failure that favors unions, corporations, political rhetoric, or corporate media lies |
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More BS forced down our throats!!!
It seems to be carefully crafted pure propaganda designed to affect how the children think. That is exactly what it is!!.. Common Core is another attempt to gain information and downplay fundamental differences....It is just one more underhanded attempt to standardize America, make her easer to "manage"...Data collection is a key element in the process.... how does it work to "gain information" ? (this is the first I have heard of it) Think of it like a website tracking tool. When you search something on the internet all of a sudden you start receiving tons of spam email, with your name and location, trying to sell you any number of things similar to what you have recently searched. Common Core is malware of the mind. A virus how do you know that is true? and you still have not explained how that will work? how will this "malware" invade the mind and what is in the malware....wht's that script? They are building robots of our children. Think alike, act alike, no creativity or individuality. Hitler Youth. I don't know about you, but if we were all the same I think life would be a very boring existence. Zombies don't learn, they simply act out of programming. http://twg2a.wordpress.com/tag/common-core-is-evil/ First it was "No child left behind" which left kids graduating high school and not being able to read or write, now they want to give us common core, not to educate, but to program to an agenda. Any child that is different will be ridiculed, any act of individual thinking will be considered a flaw to be dealt with. Under common core, parents have no input to their childs education, and should they seek to alter that training, can even have the child removed from their care and subject to gov't sanctions, treated like an abusive parent under those standards. They are even trying to make home schooling illegal since it doesn't fit the agenda of common core. The horror stories are all over the internet already, but not in the commercial/corporate news much.... as is usually the case with anything that doesn't fit the lamestream agenda. Please, tell me one thing the gov't has become involved in that works..... other than war (wall street/corporate/banker profits are soring.) I have seen many many examples of gov't programs working from education to environmental protection to child protection and public safety. but each time they "worked" or were successful, it was because the people or person at the local level, employed by the gov't was a good, competent individual(s). and so it goes as anywhere. sucess will equate with good, competent individuals. as long as parents take the time to have substantial input into their children's education, mountains will be moved that way. my own children as my best example. anything else is the risk we run when we abandon responsibility to our children, and hand it over to the government. I see that as being more the fault of disinterested parents than the gov't You really don't get it do you?
Common Core is not about parental input, it's about gov't input with little regard for the student, the family, or anything about your "core" belief of what they should be yessir I do get that. I just believe you overestimate the influence of that entity. I suppose, I think as a parent, I deserve a little more credit....credit for the ability to think for m'self and educate my children on my terms to a great extent. It is not a problem I have if I do not think as you do, nor a problem you have either. |
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as long as parents take the time to have substantial input into their children's education, mountains will be moved that way. my own children as my best example. anything else is the risk we run when we abandon responsibility to our children, and hand it over to the government. I see that as being more the fault of disinterested parents than the gov't I believe the above statement to be 100% true. Seems many today don't want responsibility, and therefore won't take it. With that push comes the natural step of any government to intervene and take over that responsibility. This is the clockwork behind society today. As any government steps in, it does so with blanket policies that may work in some cases, and don't in others. I have seen where many new policies hurt the education of the general student body (even traumatize them in some instances), in an attempt to help one troubled student. Truth is, the government lacks the ability to effectively raise a child, and so does the parent who wants to leave responsibility to someone else. |
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as long as parents take the time to have substantial input into their children's education, mountains will be moved that way. my own children as my best example. anything else is the risk we run when we abandon responsibility to our children, and hand it over to the government. I see that as being more the fault of disinterested parents than the gov't I believe the above statement to be 100% true. Seems many today don't want responsibility, and therefore won't take it. With that push comes the natural step of any government to intervene and take over that responsibility. This is the clockwork behind society today. As any government steps in, it does so with blanket policies that may work in some cases, and don't in others. I have seen where many new policies hurt the education of the general student body (even traumatize them in some instances), in an attempt to help one troubled student. Truth is, the government lacks the ability to effectively raise a child, and so does the parent who wants to leave responsibility to someone else. Interesting dichotomy... what the government is teaching is ok as long as the parent is paying enough attention, is intelligent enough, and educated enough, and motivated enough to teach the children that what the government is teaching is a bunch of crap? |
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as long as parents take the time to have substantial input into their children's education, mountains will be moved that way. my own children as my best example. anything else is the risk we run when we abandon responsibility to our children, and hand it over to the government. I see that as being more the fault of disinterested parents than the gov't I believe the above statement to be 100% true. Seems many today don't want responsibility, and therefore won't take it. With that push comes the natural step of any government to intervene and take over that responsibility. This is the clockwork behind society today. As any government steps in, it does so with blanket policies that may work in some cases, and don't in others. I have seen where many new policies hurt the education of the general student body (even traumatize them in some instances), in an attempt to help one troubled student. Truth is, the government lacks the ability to effectively raise a child, and so does the parent who wants to leave responsibility to someone else. Interesting dichotomy... what the government is teaching is ok as long as the parent is paying enough attention, is intelligent enough, and educated enough, and motivated enough to teach the children that what the government is teaching is a bunch of crap? Not sure if my point was understood. I am not condoning what our government is teaching in schools or how they are teaching it. I am merely reflecting on the willingness of the people to turn responsibility over to their government, who, by design, cannot make better choices for everyone. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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I'll say it again..... Our gov't is made up mostly of career politicians, former CEOs and lawyers, who have never wondered where their next meal was coming from, or what bill to put off to make it happen. Most who have kids raised them in another era other than the new younger class which they criticize constantly for speaking against old guard party lines or bad policy. What do they know of most peoples daily life in any way, what is good for most people, or truthfully what the people reallywant or need when the only ones they ever see (unless campaigning for re-election for maybe 45 minutes at a stop, and then only to shake hands and kiss babies) is lobbyists, movie stars, entertainers, and other politicians and fellow millionaires. They think multiple vacation homes and world trips are affordable .....and Obozocare You think them capable of creating something that actually works for the people? 
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Edited by
willing2
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Sat 12/14/13 03:54 PM
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The way Islamists can get around the law is to teach History of Islam. That way, it's not being taught as a religion but, a heritage.
Just like Negro Americans got African Heritage taught in schools. |
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or , Caucasian americans got American/white history MANDATED In schools?
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Edited by
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for whatever it is worth, teaching is what my degree is in,, although I wasn't able to get past the first degree due to lack of money for tuition
and, as I firmly believe is the case in all areas of life BALANCE is the key complete government control takes away the human diversity necessary to quality of life and complete individual dependence is not achievable,, unless one lives in a geographical location where there is abundant food to hunt, power to store, and resources for shelter , heat, and water that they can both manifest and maintain with their own individual natural efforts,,,,, no one accomplishes anything COMPLETELY ON THEIR OWN and it takes a village to raise a child, let along children there is a BALANCE To success that involves not only individual competence and effort, but COMMUNITY standards and goals and networking children need a joint effort that involves standards and expectations, reinforced by those at their home, in their school and the policies of their government,, neither side is much good without the other,,,,,,imho |
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or , Caucasian americans got American/white history MANDATED In schools? No such thing as white separatist history being taught in schools |
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or , Caucasian americans got American/white history MANDATED In schools? No such thing as white separatist history being taught in schools of course there was, they just never had to call it white it was called 'american' |
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