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it is for sure u do not understand what was happening why he said to kill all of them.
Is me who does not understand about the homicidal / genocidal "god" in bible stories? Isn't there a tale about "him" killing every person and every living thing on Earth (save some on a cruise) because the people were "wicked" (didn't worship him and follow his orders)? In fact, there are a lot of tales about a bloodthirsty "god" in the bible. Apologists attempt to explain or excuse genocide (and have often followed the example themselves). |
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so you think god is a thief?
A god is depicted in the bible as homicidal and genocidal -- far worse than a thief -- kills entire populations because they don't worship him. kinda scary, huh.... 
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it is for sure u do not understand what was happening why he said to kill all of them.
Is me who does not understand about the homicidal / genocidal "god" in bible stories? Isn't there a tale about "him" killing every person and every living thing on Earth (save some on a cruise) because the people were "wicked" (didn't worship him and follow his orders)? In fact, there are a lot of tales about a bloodthirsty "god" in the bible. Apologists attempt to explain or excuse genocide (and have often followed the example themselves). old testament was all "wrath of god" type stories... read 'job'...lol |
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it is for sure u do not understand what was happening why he said to kill all of them.
Is me who does not understand about the homicidal / genocidal "god" in bible stories? Isn't there a tale about "him" killing every person and every living thing on Earth (save some on a cruise) because the people were "wicked" (didn't worship him and follow his orders)? In fact, there are a lot of tales about a bloodthirsty "god" in the bible. Apologists attempt to explain or excuse genocide (and have often followed the example themselves). Do you consider abortions Murder? |
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it is for sure u do not understand what was happening why he said to kill all of them.
Is me who does not understand about the homicidal / genocidal "god" in bible stories? Isn't there a tale about "him" killing every person and every living thing on Earth (save some on a cruise) because the people were "wicked" (didn't worship him and follow his orders)? In fact, there are a lot of tales about a bloodthirsty "god" in the bible. Apologists attempt to explain or excuse genocide (and have often followed the example themselves). Do you consider abortions Murder? What does that question have to do with a genocidal "god?" Changing the subject to avoid acknowledging dastardly deeds attributed to "god" in bible stories? |
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it is for sure u do not understand what was happening why he said to kill all of them.
Is me who does not understand about the homicidal / genocidal "god" in bible stories? Isn't there a tale about "him" killing every person and every living thing on Earth (save some on a cruise) because the people were "wicked" (didn't worship him and follow his orders)? In fact, there are a lot of tales about a bloodthirsty "god" in the bible. Apologists attempt to explain or excuse genocide (and have often followed the example themselves). Do you consider abortions Murder? What does that question have to do with a genocidal "god?" Changing the subject to avoid acknowledging dastardly deeds attributed to "god" in bible stories? It has everything to do with it. u say this horrible elohim is genocidal. Abortion is Genocidal. Just because our govt . says it is ok does not mean it is not murder. you want to speak of genocide then abortion is the Killing of defenseless babies. It is murder. when a car accident happens and a mother looses her baby its murder but if she does it its ok. that's hogwash it either is or is not. that's the world u live in a fantasy one where you make rules then change them whatever fits most peoples fantasies |
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Who or what is God?
May I tell you what is on my mind? God is whomever one needs and one is looking for. If you doubt about God and reading Bible to find proof for your doubts, you will surely find it. But still God is watching over you. If you seek God and reading the Bible to proof that He is I AM, God will reveal Himself to you. No matter what if you seek Him or not, He is looking for you. Once I was thinking about God, thinking about evolution and/or creation. Evolution means optimizing for life, right? What about our fingerprints? Each person has its own, for what? I can not read my own or your fingerprint. What could I gain from it? Unique fingerprints were always there, for what? Just 60 years ago it began reading them and making use of it. Evolution needs much more time. How could evolution know, that we will create the technic for using it getting criminals? I tell you, I was laughing loudly. That is a funny wisdom to proof God. It was not evolution creating different fingerprints, no. What for? It was God, to let us know, that He is our Creator, and that He has made each one of us unique. This wisdom can stop any doubt. And it is all like that: When you find a truth about God, it will answer many questions; it gives you peace and belonging. Listen! We all know we shall change passwords sometimes. I tell you today: Change the password of your mind. Change it from WHY to WHAT FOR, and see what will happen. God bless you! Rev. Vera |
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Do you consider abortions Murder?
What does that question have to do with a genocidal "god?" Changing the subject to avoid acknowledging dastardly deeds attributed to "god" in bible stories? It has everything to do with it. u say this horrible elohim is genocidal. Abortion is Genocidal. Just because our govt . says it is ok does not mean it is not murder. you want to speak of genocide then abortion is the Killing of defenseless babies. Thank you for your OPINION that abortion equates to a tale about a "god" that supposedly kills every person and living thing on an entire PLANET. SOME religious people consider abortion to be murder. Others do not and religious women have more abortions than non-religious women It is murder. when a car accident happens and a mother looses her baby its murder but if she does it its ok. that's hogwash it either is or is not. that's the world u live in a fantasy one where you make rules then change them whatever fits most peoples fantasies
I make no rules. "Gods" make no rules (except in the minds of followers, fanatics, preachers and "prophets." Societies make rules for their citizens. Some societies, fortunately and wisely, do not allow theocracy (rule by religion). |
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Who or what is God? May I tell you what is on my mind? God is whomever one needs and one is looking for. If you doubt about God and reading Bible to find proof for your doubts, you will surely find it. But still God is watching over you. If you seek God and reading the Bible to proof that He is I AM, God will reveal Himself to you. No matter what if you seek Him or not, He is looking for you. Once I was thinking about God, thinking about evolution and/or creation. Evolution means optimizing for life, right? What about our fingerprints? Each person has its own, for what? I can not read my own or your fingerprint. What could I gain from it? Unique fingerprints were always there, for what? Just 60 years ago it began reading them and making use of it. Evolution needs much more time. How could evolution know, that we will create the technic for using it getting criminals? I tell you, I was laughing loudly. That is a funny wisdom to proof God. It was not evolution creating different fingerprints, no. What for? It was God, to let us know, that He is our Creator, and that He has made each one of us unique. This wisdom can stop any doubt. And it is all like that: When you find a truth about God, it will answer many questions; it gives you peace and belonging. Listen! We all know we shall change passwords sometimes. I tell you today: Change the password of your mind. Change it from WHY to WHAT FOR, and see what will happen. God bless you! Rev. Vera evolution has had billions of years to get things right... how much more time does it need? it's a never ending process that makes the strong, the smartest, and the best survive... as far as fingerprints, humans are not the only animal to have them. most primates, as well as Koala's, have distinct, individual fingerprints. just because you don't understand something doesn't mean a god did it, just means you should try a science book instead of the bible every once in a while... |
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just because you don't understand something doesn't mean a god did it,
EXACTLY As human societies learn more about real world cause-and-effect relationships there is less need for "goddidit" When the causes of common diseases were unknown they were attributed to "sin" or "displeasing god" -- but as knowledge increased the true causes (microbes) were identified and there was no need for the "god explanation." When atmospheric processes seemed mysterious, droughts, floods, and storms were attributed to "gods" or "spirits", but as we learned more about the real world it became apparent that those are natural events associated with atmospheric conditions. Etc. We are a long way from complete understanding of nature -- but we can keep learning IF we actually seek knowledge rather than "miracle" explanations. Unfortunately, many even in modern society prefer to believe in the miraculous rather than seeking truthful and accurate information. |
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it is for sure u do not understand what was happening why he said to kill all of them.
Is me who does not understand about the homicidal / genocidal "god" in bible stories? Isn't there a tale about "him" killing every person and every living thing on Earth (save some on a cruise) because the people were "wicked" (didn't worship him and follow his orders)? In fact, there are a lot of tales about a bloodthirsty "god" in the bible. Apologists attempt to explain or excuse genocide (and have often followed the example themselves). Do you consider abortions Murder? Red Herring? |
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just because you don't understand something doesn't mean a god did it,
EXACTLY As human societies learn more about real world cause-and-effect relationships there is less need for "goddidit" When the causes of common diseases were unknown they were attributed to "sin" or "displeasing god" -- but as knowledge increased the true causes (microbes) were identified and there was no need for the "god explanation." When atmospheric processes seemed mysterious, droughts, floods, and storms were attributed to "gods" or "spirits", but as we learned more about the real world it became apparent that those are natural events associated with atmospheric conditions. Etc. We are a long way from complete understanding of nature -- but we can keep learning IF we actually seek knowledge rather than "miracle" explanations. Unfortunately, many even in modern society prefer to believe in the miraculous rather than seeking truthful and accurate information. science was outlawed for hundreds of years because the church didn't want people to know the truth... most science shows things that don't coincide with the bible, so it was deemed bad... truth hurts religion the most, because the church leaders can't scare people into doing what they want... |
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just because you don't understand something doesn't mean a god did it,
EXACTLY As human societies learn more about real world cause-and-effect relationships there is less need for "goddidit" When the causes of common diseases were unknown they were attributed to "sin" or "displeasing god" -- but as knowledge increased the true causes (microbes) were identified and there was no need for the "god explanation." When atmospheric processes seemed mysterious, droughts, floods, and storms were attributed to "gods" or "spirits", but as we learned more about the real world it became apparent that those are natural events associated with atmospheric conditions. Etc. We are a long way from complete understanding of nature -- but we can keep learning IF we actually seek knowledge rather than "miracle" explanations. Unfortunately, many even in modern society prefer to believe in the miraculous rather than seeking truthful and accurate information. science was outlawed for hundreds of years because the church didn't want people to know the truth... most science shows things that don't coincide with the bible, so it was deemed bad... truth hurts religion the most, because the church leaders can't scare people into doing what they want... They still find plenty hapless Dupes! |
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just because you don't understand something doesn't mean a god did it,
EXACTLY As human societies learn more about real world cause-and-effect relationships there is less need for "goddidit" When the causes of common diseases were unknown they were attributed to "sin" or "displeasing god" -- but as knowledge increased the true causes (microbes) were identified and there was no need for the "god explanation." When atmospheric processes seemed mysterious, droughts, floods, and storms were attributed to "gods" or "spirits", but as we learned more about the real world it became apparent that those are natural events associated with atmospheric conditions. Etc. We are a long way from complete understanding of nature -- but we can keep learning IF we actually seek knowledge rather than "miracle" explanations. Unfortunately, many even in modern society prefer to believe in the miraculous rather than seeking truthful and accurate information. science was outlawed for hundreds of years because the church didn't want people to know the truth... most science shows things that don't coincide with the bible, so it was deemed bad... truth hurts religion the most, because the church leaders can't scare people into doing what they want... They still find plenty hapless Dupes! lol, i see that in the religious forums in here... 
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just because you don't understand something doesn't mean a god did it,
EXACTLY As human societies learn more about real world cause-and-effect relationships there is less need for "goddidit" When the causes of common diseases were unknown they were attributed to "sin" or "displeasing god" -- but as knowledge increased the true causes (microbes) were identified and there was no need for the "god explanation." When atmospheric processes seemed mysterious, droughts, floods, and storms were attributed to "gods" or "spirits", but as we learned more about the real world it became apparent that those are natural events associated with atmospheric conditions. Etc. We are a long way from complete understanding of nature -- but we can keep learning IF we actually seek knowledge rather than "miracle" explanations. Unfortunately, many even in modern society prefer to believe in the miraculous rather than seeking truthful and accurate information. science was outlawed for hundreds of years because the church didn't want people to know the truth... most science shows things that don't coincide with the bible, so it was deemed bad... truth hurts religion the most, because the church leaders can't scare people into doing what they want... They still find plenty hapless Dupes! lol, i see that in the religious forums in here...
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truth hurts religion the most, because the church leaders can't scare people into doing what they want...
Agree Truth and knowledge surpass mysticism and superstition. Religion is declining in developed nations and increasing in undeveloped. It is easy to convince large numbers of people who are uneducated, uninformed, and/or unintelligent that invisible, undetectable "gods" or "spirits" are responsible for natural phenomena. |
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Do you consider abortions Murder?
Red Herring? Of course it is -- but those who use that as a "debate" tactic often don't even know the meaning of "red herring" much less how to discuss a topic rationally. |
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Do you consider abortions Murder?
Red Herring? Of course it is -- but those who use that as a "debate" tactic often don't even know the meaning of "red herring" much less how to discuss a topic rationally. I ask a question and u claim I am changing the subject. Genocide is murder or is it? killing is killing or is it? good luck.. u neither listen and better yet u try and act like u r when u do not want a real debate. u just wanna say make believe make believe.. u r right religion is wrong. what religious holidays do u keep for fun? well then u r practicing a religion then aren't you. see that makes u a liar when u practice religious holidays no matter what u want to call them if the mainstream keep them and u do also then all u r is a lieing follower. what else would u call it? Have fun in your fanticy world/ |
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Edited by
JohnDavidDavid
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Sun 02/02/14 06:46 AM
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It has been said that the most effective enemies of any cause are those who attempt to defend or promote it with ignorance, hostility and diversion. Apply wherever appropriate I ask a question and u claim I am changing the subject. Genocide is murder or is it?
"Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form: 1.Topic A is under discussion. 2.Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A). 3.Topic A is abandoned. This sort of 'reasoning' is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim." http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html what religious holidays do u keep for fun?
NONE -- absolutely none. I consider "celebrating" "holidays" to be foolish (for myself) and obligatory gifting and gaiety to be even more foolish -- and I do not participate. well then u r practicing a religion then aren't you.
Nice try see that makes u a liar when u practice religious holidays no matter what u want to call them if the mainstream keep them and u do also then all u r is a lieing follower. what else would u call it? Have fun in your fanticy world/
When one runs out of "arguments" they can always try false assumptions and personal attack. |
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I found out, that I am not the right one for discussing this topic. Instead of talking ABOUT God, I prefere to talking WITH God.
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