Topic: Same sex marriage,a neo-population control?
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Thu 09/26/13 09:36 AM

I'd like to know why people are so uptight about something that has no effect on a persons everyday life in the least. As long as they are consenting adults. Who gives a rats *** about what others do behind closed doors? Seriously is it that big of a problem for people to let others be happy with the partner of their choosing? Its every bit as prejudice as those people whom are against "interracial" dating. Seriously only crooked people are more worried about others than they are of themselves. And it is seriously appalling to think that in this day and age in this country (which is supposed to be the land of the free) people feel the need to worry about such trivial matters that have no effect on them what so ever.

We are supposed to be a country which holds life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness sacrosanct. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and so forth seem to not be so cared about in this age. People are supposed to be different and its the culmination of those differences which make this melting pot of a country so great.

And just an fyi to the opener homosexuality has been around long before our grandparents where born. So any debate about what coulda woulda shoulda is moot. If you don't believe me why do you think sodomy has a slang of "going greek" which if you don't know one of the oldest civilizations. Not that it was limited to just the Greeks either since in the bible during the old testament when god was still being the big sky bully supposedly annihilated an entire city because of the sins being committed there one of which being homosexuality. Its found in Egyptian hieroglyphics which is also one of the oldest civilizations. So just because your grandparents didn't partake in it doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

There my frustrated and slightly angry rant is now over. I should really avoid posting when I have a headache for more than a few hours.noway


Or notbigsmile I really enjoyed reading your intelligent, heartfelt rant....It added some substance to an otherwise barren thread!....Well done...:thumbsup:

loovedoove's photo
Thu 09/26/13 10:32 AM



this world is goin to an end,pls lets all repent before its too late.homosexualism is an abomination in all scriptures!


You know this type of frenzied panic/scare tactic sounds like what is being taught/preached in quite a few areas of the world. In those parts of the world these same people are being taught to go out and kill homosexuals because they are "an abomination in all scriptures!"
Now the reason I know this is because there are people who have documented these teachings. I have seen one on Current TV and 2 on 1 of the Discovery Channels. Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?

There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time! Get over it! How are you going to tell somebody how they should feel on the inside?



I don't think anyone is advocating for killing homosexuals,,,

there are places, where thieves hands are cut off,, yet making a statement about the immorality of stealing is a far cry from advocating such violence

there are places where adultery is a capital punishment crime, and yet making a statement about the immorality of adultery is also not the same as advocating that violence

there has been objection to sodomy since the beginning of time too,

why is it those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle,, only see that homosexuals 'feelings' matter and disregard the 'feelings' of those who oppose the lifestyle,,,?


no one can make anyone feel or do anything, but that has nothing to do with voicing opinions about what are or are not the right things to do,,,,or the wrong things

feelings are not a constant,, nor are they set in stone,, nor do they take away the choice we have in our actions,,,



How many different people are you speaking for on here? All I did was state some facts as I know them but if you want to take them as something else like "those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle", well that is on you. I stand by my opinion, just as I am sure you will stand by yours and we both have a right to our on opinions. Like I stated previously, until the end of time there is still going to be the existence of homosexuality in this world unless those who oppose decide to start executing gay people like Hilter mass murdered Jews and look how far that went.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 09/26/13 10:37 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 09/26/13 10:48 AM




this world is goin to an end,pls lets all repent before its too late.homosexualism is an abomination in all scriptures!


You know this type of frenzied panic/scare tactic sounds like what is being taught/preached in quite a few areas of the world. In those parts of the world these same people are being taught to go out and kill homosexuals because they are "an abomination in all scriptures!"
Now the reason I know this is because there are people who have documented these teachings. I have seen one on Current TV and 2 on 1 of the Discovery Channels. Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?

There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time! Get over it! How are you going to tell somebody how they should feel on the inside?



I don't think anyone is advocating for killing homosexuals,,,

there are places, where thieves hands are cut off,, yet making a statement about the immorality of stealing is a far cry from advocating such violence

there are places where adultery is a capital punishment crime, and yet making a statement about the immorality of adultery is also not the same as advocating that violence

there has been objection to sodomy since the beginning of time too,

why is it those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle,, only see that homosexuals 'feelings' matter and disregard the 'feelings' of those who oppose the lifestyle,,,?


no one can make anyone feel or do anything, but that has nothing to do with voicing opinions about what are or are not the right things to do,,,,or the wrong things

feelings are not a constant,, nor are they set in stone,, nor do they take away the choice we have in our actions,,,



How many different people are you speaking for on here? All I did was state some facts as I know them but if you want to take them as something else like "those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle", well that is on you. I stand by my opinion, just as I am sure you will stand by yours and we both have a right to our on opinions. Like I stated previously, until the end of time there is still going to be the existence of homosexuality in this world unless those who oppose decide to start executing gay people like Hilter mass murdered Jews and look how far that went.
well,Hitler locked up Homosexuals in Concentration-Camps,probably had them killed!frustrated

The pink triangle (German: Rosa Winkel) was one of the Nazi concentration camp badges, used to identify male prisoners who were sent there because of their homosexuality.[1] Every prisoner had to wear a downward-pointing triangle on his or her jacket, the colour of which was to categorise him or her by "kind". Other colors identified Jews (two triangles superimposed as a yellow star), political prisoners, Jehovah's Witnesses, "anti-social" prisoners, and others the Nazis deemed undesirable. Pink and yellow triangles could be combined if a prisoner was deemed to be gay and Jewish (see Nazi concentration camp table of inmate markings).

Originally intended as a badge of shame, the pink triangle (often inverted from its Nazi usage) has been reclaimed as an international symbol of gay pride and the gay rights movement, and is second in popularity only to the rainbow flag.[2]WIKI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle




msharmony's photo
Thu 09/26/13 10:39 AM




this world is goin to an end,pls lets all repent before its too late.homosexualism is an abomination in all scriptures!


You know this type of frenzied panic/scare tactic sounds like what is being taught/preached in quite a few areas of the world. In those parts of the world these same people are being taught to go out and kill homosexuals because they are "an abomination in all scriptures!"
Now the reason I know this is because there are people who have documented these teachings. I have seen one on Current TV and 2 on 1 of the Discovery Channels. Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?

There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time! Get over it! How are you going to tell somebody how they should feel on the inside?



I don't think anyone is advocating for killing homosexuals,,,

there are places, where thieves hands are cut off,, yet making a statement about the immorality of stealing is a far cry from advocating such violence

there are places where adultery is a capital punishment crime, and yet making a statement about the immorality of adultery is also not the same as advocating that violence

there has been objection to sodomy since the beginning of time too,

why is it those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle,, only see that homosexuals 'feelings' matter and disregard the 'feelings' of those who oppose the lifestyle,,,?


no one can make anyone feel or do anything, but that has nothing to do with voicing opinions about what are or are not the right things to do,,,,or the wrong things

feelings are not a constant,, nor are they set in stone,, nor do they take away the choice we have in our actions,,,



How many different people are you speaking for on here? All I did was state some facts as I know them but if you want to take them as something else like "those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle", well that is on you. I stand by my opinion, just as I am sure you will stand by yours and we both have a right to our on opinions. Like I stated previously, until the end of time there is still going to be the existence of homosexuality in this world unless those who oppose decide to start executing gay people like Hilter mass murdered Jews and look how far that went.



agreed, in context

Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?



similarly,,,


regardless if its wrong to oppose homosexual behavior or not,

is silencing other people just because they disagree with it an answer?



loovedoove's photo
Thu 09/26/13 10:42 AM





this world is goin to an end,pls lets all repent before its too late.homosexualism is an abomination in all scriptures!


You know this type of frenzied panic/scare tactic sounds like what is being taught/preached in quite a few areas of the world. In those parts of the world these same people are being taught to go out and kill homosexuals because they are "an abomination in all scriptures!"
Now the reason I know this is because there are people who have documented these teachings. I have seen one on Current TV and 2 on 1 of the Discovery Channels. Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?

There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time! Get over it! How are you going to tell somebody how they should feel on the inside?



I don't think anyone is advocating for killing homosexuals,,,

there are places, where thieves hands are cut off,, yet making a statement about the immorality of stealing is a far cry from advocating such violence

there are places where adultery is a capital punishment crime, and yet making a statement about the immorality of adultery is also not the same as advocating that violence

there has been objection to sodomy since the beginning of time too,

why is it those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle,, only see that homosexuals 'feelings' matter and disregard the 'feelings' of those who oppose the lifestyle,,,?


no one can make anyone feel or do anything, but that has nothing to do with voicing opinions about what are or are not the right things to do,,,,or the wrong things

feelings are not a constant,, nor are they set in stone,, nor do they take away the choice we have in our actions,,,



How many different people are you speaking for on here? All I did was state some facts as I know them but if you want to take them as something else like "those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle", well that is on you. I stand by my opinion, just as I am sure you will stand by yours and we both have a right to our on opinions. Like I stated previously, until the end of time there is still going to be the existence of homosexuality in this world unless those who oppose decide to start executing gay people like Hilter mass murdered Jews and look how far that went.



agreed, in context

Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?



similarly,,,


regardless if its wrong to oppose homosexual behavior or not,

is silencing other people just because they disagree with it an answer?







Calm down. Who said anything about silencing anyone? This is a forum, carry on.

msharmony's photo
Thu 09/26/13 10:43 AM
I think we are both calm..lol

yet we are still continuing to post our opinions

one has little to do with the other,,,

,,,moving on,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 09/26/13 10:49 AM





this world is goin to an end,pls lets all repent before its too late.homosexualism is an abomination in all scriptures!


You know this type of frenzied panic/scare tactic sounds like what is being taught/preached in quite a few areas of the world. In those parts of the world these same people are being taught to go out and kill homosexuals because they are "an abomination in all scriptures!"
Now the reason I know this is because there are people who have documented these teachings. I have seen one on Current TV and 2 on 1 of the Discovery Channels. Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?

There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time! Get over it! How are you going to tell somebody how they should feel on the inside?



I don't think anyone is advocating for killing homosexuals,,,

there are places, where thieves hands are cut off,, yet making a statement about the immorality of stealing is a far cry from advocating such violence

there are places where adultery is a capital punishment crime, and yet making a statement about the immorality of adultery is also not the same as advocating that violence

there has been objection to sodomy since the beginning of time too,

why is it those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle,, only see that homosexuals 'feelings' matter and disregard the 'feelings' of those who oppose the lifestyle,,,?


no one can make anyone feel or do anything, but that has nothing to do with voicing opinions about what are or are not the right things to do,,,,or the wrong things

feelings are not a constant,, nor are they set in stone,, nor do they take away the choice we have in our actions,,,



How many different people are you speaking for on here? All I did was state some facts as I know them but if you want to take them as something else like "those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle", well that is on you. I stand by my opinion, just as I am sure you will stand by yours and we both have a right to our on opinions. Like I stated previously, until the end of time there is still going to be the existence of homosexuality in this world unless those who oppose decide to start executing gay people like Hilter mass murdered Jews and look how far that went.
well,Hitler locked up Homosexuals in Concentration-Camps,probably had them killed!frustrated

The pink triangle (German: Rosa Winkel) was one of the Nazi concentration camp badges, used to identify male prisoners who were sent there because of their homosexuality.[1] Every prisoner had to wear a downward-pointing triangle on his or her jacket, the colour of which was to categorise him or her by "kind". Other colors identified Jews (two triangles superimposed as a yellow star), political prisoners, Jehovah's Witnesses, "anti-social" prisoners, and others the Nazis deemed undesirable. Pink and yellow triangles could be combined if a prisoner was deemed to be gay and Jewish (see Nazi concentration camp table of inmate markings).

Originally intended as a badge of shame, the pink triangle (often inverted from its Nazi usage) has been reclaimed as an international symbol of gay pride and the gay rights movement, and is second in popularity only to the rainbow flag.[2]WIKI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle





loovedoove's photo
Thu 09/26/13 10:57 AM
Hey I appreciate the history lesson Thanks

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/26/13 11:21 AM





this world is goin to an end,pls lets all repent before its too late.homosexualism is an abomination in all scriptures!


You know this type of frenzied panic/scare tactic sounds like what is being taught/preached in quite a few areas of the world. In those parts of the world these same people are being taught to go out and kill homosexuals because they are "an abomination in all scriptures!"
Now the reason I know this is because there are people who have documented these teachings. I have seen one on Current TV and 2 on 1 of the Discovery Channels. Regardless if homosexuality is wrong or not, is killing other people just because their private sexual lifestyles an answer or some type of "cure"?

There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time! Get over it! How are you going to tell somebody how they should feel on the inside?



I don't think anyone is advocating for killing homosexuals,,,

there are places, where thieves hands are cut off,, yet making a statement about the immorality of stealing is a far cry from advocating such violence

there are places where adultery is a capital punishment crime, and yet making a statement about the immorality of adultery is also not the same as advocating that violence

there has been objection to sodomy since the beginning of time too,

why is it those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle,, only see that homosexuals 'feelings' matter and disregard the 'feelings' of those who oppose the lifestyle,,,?


no one can make anyone feel or do anything, but that has nothing to do with voicing opinions about what are or are not the right things to do,,,,or the wrong things

feelings are not a constant,, nor are they set in stone,, nor do they take away the choice we have in our actions,,,



How many different people are you speaking for on here? All I did was state some facts as I know them but if you want to take them as something else like "those who play the guilt game on people who oppose the homosexual lifestyle", well that is on you. I stand by my opinion, just as I am sure you will stand by yours and we both have a right to our on opinions. Like I stated previously, until the end of time there is still going to be the existence of homosexuality in this world unless those who oppose decide to start executing gay people like Hilter mass murdered Jews and look how far that went.
well,Hitler locked up Homosexuals in Concentration-Camps,probably had them killed!frustrated

The pink triangle (German: Rosa Winkel) was one of the Nazi concentration camp badges, used to identify male prisoners who were sent there because of their homosexuality.[1] Every prisoner had to wear a downward-pointing triangle on his or her jacket, the colour of which was to categorise him or her by "kind". Other colors identified Jews (two triangles superimposed as a yellow star), political prisoners, Jehovah's Witnesses, "anti-social" prisoners, and others the Nazis deemed undesirable. Pink and yellow triangles could be combined if a prisoner was deemed to be gay and Jewish (see Nazi concentration camp table of inmate markings).

Originally intended as a badge of shame, the pink triangle (often inverted from its Nazi usage) has been reclaimed as an international symbol of gay pride and the gay rights movement, and is second in popularity only to the rainbow flag.[2]WIKI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle






now it's turning into the pink swastika, since they demand we have to accept them...

KinBarrie's photo
Thu 09/26/13 11:42 AM
Well, there wouldn't be a human race if our ancestors
practiced same sex, and didn't have any outside hetero
sexual relations. In short, if everyone were gay back
then, there would simply be no homosapiens today.

There were no fertile clinics where some gay man could
waltz in and give his seed to someone else to reproduce
another human being.

Gossipmpm's photo
Thu 09/26/13 11:45 AM
no honey...Its all about people loving people and people love people without disgrace

Its 2013

does anyone really care....


really:heart:

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/26/13 11:47 AM

no honey...Its all about people loving people and people love people without disgrace

Its 2013

does anyone really care....


really:heart:


thats the line they give us, buy i see very little love involved with it...

Gossipmpm's photo
Thu 09/26/13 11:54 AM
i knjow many homosexual couples...both male and female who are in love

it is not just a "sex" thing like many people seem to think...It is one person actually loving another..even though they are the same gender

Just think of those...still not allowed to show this because they fear some kind of backlash


i find it sooo sad that there is still a debate:heart:



anyone wanna marry me laugh

mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/26/13 11:59 AM

i knjow many homosexual couples...both male and female who are in love

it is not just a "sex" thing like many people seem to think...It is one person actually loving another..even though they are the same gender

Just think of those...still not allowed to show this because they fear some kind of backlash


i find it sooo sad that there is still a debate:heart:



anyone wanna marry me laugh


i don't think it's very right for gays to feel repercussions, but i also don't think it's right to parade their gayness around to much in public... there has to be a balance point somewhere


Gossipmpm's photo
Thu 09/26/13 12:03 PM
and who is to judge the fact that they show their "gayness"..or how much or how little they show it

there are very masculine gays
there are flaming queens

who is to judge?

sometime when I awake in the mornin I look like a real butchie!!! hahah:heart:

msharmony's photo
Thu 09/26/13 01:54 PM


i knjow many homosexual couples...both male and female who are in love

it is not just a "sex" thing like many people seem to think...It is one person actually loving another..even though they are the same gender

Just think of those...still not allowed to show this because they fear some kind of backlash


i find it sooo sad that there is still a debate:heart:



anyone wanna marry me laugh


i don't think it's very right for gays to feel repercussions, but i also don't think it's right to parade their gayness around to much in public... there has to be a balance point somewhere




depends upon what 'repurcussion' means,,,,its wrong to be violent towards others if they have not put their hands on you

however it is human to have an opinion and to be turned on or off by certain actions and words and REACT within your own personal space

I don't want to see someone crap in public, no matter how 'natural' it is to human beings

I don't want to see even heteros ginding each other in public, no matter how 'in love' they are with each other

and I don't care to see people of the same gender kissing each other either,, that is my personal feeling and I have every right to it


as far as 'love', people have a hard enough time defining it and knowing if they themselves feel it for another without knowing whether others feel it towards another

that is a matter of someones mind/perception/experience,, something we could not possibly be aware of ,, and something I therefore don't really care about ,,,,,feelings are just that,,, intangible,,and personal

however, ACTIONS and BEHAVIOR are a different matter,, and some I find appropriate only in certain situations,,,,,,,its a judgement/opinion that is as 'natural' for me to have as it is for another to have when they 'judge' that its perfectly natural or normal,,,,


mightymoe's photo
Thu 09/26/13 02:06 PM

and who is to judge the fact that they show their "gayness"..or how much or how little they show it

there are very masculine gays
there are flaming queens

who is to judge?

sometime when I awake in the mornin I look like a real butchie!!! hahah:heart:


everyone judges everything all the time, just like your judging people that don't like gayness...

there is a balance point somewhere that everyone could agree to and get along, but it seems like the gays don't want a balance, they want what they want and thats that...

willowdraga's photo
Thu 09/26/13 02:15 PM

If our great grand parents had practiced same sex marriage,we surely wouldnt be here on earth today.Could this be a neo-world population control?


It is a natural form of birth control though.

There are lots of unwanted children with no homes to go to. They can now have homes.

Homosexuality is a perfectly natural form of love and has it's place in our natural world.


msharmony's photo
Thu 09/26/13 02:23 PM
love is natural

sex is not love,, its only one of many ways people might choose to express it,,,operative word ,, CHOICE,,,,


seems the threads keep interchanging the idea of same sex RELATIONS< with same sex FEELINGS,,,

or Behavior,, with Love

concepts are not the same

willowdraga's photo
Thu 09/26/13 02:28 PM
Edited by willowdraga on Thu 09/26/13 02:30 PM

love is natural

sex is not love,, its only one of many ways people might choose to express it,,,operative word ,, CHOICE,,,,


seems the threads keep interchanging the idea of same sex RELATIONS< with same sex FEELINGS,,,

or Behavior,, with Love

concepts are not the same


Your opinion.

Sex is fully natural and good for ya.

Edited: I just remembered who I foruming with here.....Sex between two (or more depending on your outlook) consenting and mentally capable of making the choice person's of legal age is good for ya and fully natural even if love isn't there.