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Edited by
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! Common courtesy and the rights of others should be enough, but if cops want to make their job still easier, and gov'ts want to bleed the public, just like Obozo killing babies with drones, if the gov't does it, it's ok! |
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, |
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, So next you enforce human kindness? How about mental health? Why do we need science? Laws? You seem to think they can regulate anything about us, our lives, our rights, and it's going to change human nature? It will only change the limits of control, not the human equation! |
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, So next you enforce human kindness? How about mental health? Why do we need science? Laws? You seem to think they can regulate anything about us, our lives, our rights, and it's going to change human nature? It will only change the limits of control, not the human equation! I truly have no clue what you are talking about? human kindness? mental health? I manage EVERYDAY to wtch my meter and drive the SPEED LIMIT that's a very easy and DEFINABLE And CONTROLLABLE Action I also manage to stop at stop signs ,,no connection at all to the vagueness of 'kindness', or 'mental health' |
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but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver It amazes me how people sometimes whine when they get caught violating traffic laws. Instead of owning up to the violation, they complain about who or what caught them making the violation. Having said that, I admit that the use of cameras to catch traffic violations is troublesome - if not also unconstitutional - because the owner of a vehicle isn't necessarily the person who is driving the vehicle at the time of the traffic violation. Justice requires that the driver be cited for a traffic violation, but that justice won't happen if a camera alone is used to detect a traffic violation, because a camera cannot determine whether or not the offender driving the vehicle is the owner of that vehicle. Thus, it looks to me as if that Florida judge ruled correctly. To doubt the judge's ruling because of what state the judge is in is an act of prejudice. |
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, So next you enforce human kindness? How about mental health? Why do we need science? Laws? You seem to think they can regulate anything about us, our lives, our rights, and it's going to change human nature? It will only change the limits of control, not the human equation! I truly have no clue what you are talking about? human kindness? mental health? I manage EVERYDAY to wtch my meter and drive the SPEED LIMIT that's a very easy and DEFINABLE And CONTROLLABLE Action I also manage to stop at stop signs ,,no connection at all to the vagueness of 'kindness', or 'mental health' If it has to be explained, you wouldn't understand, and that says a lot. Morality can't be regulated, but you seem to believe the gov't can break a law to impose a law, and that is flawed judgement! |
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but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver It amazes me how people sometimes whine when they get caught violating traffic laws. Instead of owning up to the violation, they complain about who or what caught them making the violation. Having said that, I admit that the use of cameras to catch traffic violations is troublesome - if not also unconstitutional - because the owner of a vehicle isn't necessarily the person who is driving the vehicle at the time of the traffic violation. Justice requires that the driver be cited for a traffic violation, but that justice won't happen if a camera alone is used to detect a traffic violation, because a camera cannot determine whether or not the offender driving the vehicle is the owner of that vehicle. Thus, it looks to me as if that Florida judge ruled correctly. To doubt the judge's ruling because of what state the judge is in is an act of prejudice. than call me prejudice,, I belive Florida justice is wacky at best so not all citations require the driver to be cited, if the driver is not known when there is a hit and run, by definition, the driver cant be deterimined,, but if there is a license plate , the OWNER will e held accountable unless they can simply SHOW someone else drove the car this is not much difference,,, |
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Edited by
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, So next you enforce human kindness? How about mental health? Why do we need science? Laws? You seem to think they can regulate anything about us, our lives, our rights, and it's going to change human nature? It will only change the limits of control, not the human equation! I truly have no clue what you are talking about? human kindness? mental health? I manage EVERYDAY to wtch my meter and drive the SPEED LIMIT that's a very easy and DEFINABLE And CONTROLLABLE Action I also manage to stop at stop signs ,,no connection at all to the vagueness of 'kindness', or 'mental health' If it has to be explained, you wouldn't understand, and that says a lot. Morality can't be regulated, but you seem to believe the gov't can break a law to impose a law, and that is flawed judgement! if you believe speed limits are about morality,,, than there isn't much logic I can use in this conversation that would be understood,,, my vehicle, I should know who is in it,, unless I report it stolen my vehicle, my responsibility,,, period |
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, So next you enforce human kindness? How about mental health? Why do we need science? Laws? You seem to think they can regulate anything about us, our lives, our rights, and it's going to change human nature? It will only change the limits of control, not the human equation! I truly have no clue what you are talking about? human kindness? mental health? I manage EVERYDAY to wtch my meter and drive the SPEED LIMIT that's a very easy and DEFINABLE And CONTROLLABLE Action I also manage to stop at stop signs ,,no connection at all to the vagueness of 'kindness', or 'mental health' If it has to be explained, you wouldn't understand, and that says a lot. Morality can't be regulated, but you seem to believe the gov't can break a law to impose a law, and that is flawed judgement! if you believe speed limits are about morality,,, than there isn't much logic I can use in this conversation that would be understood,,, my vehicle, I should know who is in it,, unless I report it stolen my vehicle, my responsibility,,, period I hope your driving is better on the highway than it is in your ability to maintain rather than dodge or redirect a topic. |
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, So next you enforce human kindness? How about mental health? Why do we need science? Laws? You seem to think they can regulate anything about us, our lives, our rights, and it's going to change human nature? It will only change the limits of control, not the human equation! I truly have no clue what you are talking about? human kindness? mental health? I manage EVERYDAY to wtch my meter and drive the SPEED LIMIT that's a very easy and DEFINABLE And CONTROLLABLE Action I also manage to stop at stop signs ,,no connection at all to the vagueness of 'kindness', or 'mental health' If it has to be explained, you wouldn't understand, and that says a lot. Morality can't be regulated, but you seem to believe the gov't can break a law to impose a law, and that is flawed judgement! if you believe speed limits are about morality,,, than there isn't much logic I can use in this conversation that would be understood,,, my vehicle, I should know who is in it,, unless I report it stolen my vehicle, my responsibility,,, period I hope your driving is better on the highway than it is in your ability to maintain rather than dodge or redirect a topic. lol its becoming comical how when I RESPOND to the exact posting of someone in a thread, I GET CHARGED< with going off topic or not staying on topic or 'obsessing' about the topic SOMEONE else initiates or brings up 
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but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver It amazes me how people sometimes whine when they get caught violating traffic laws. Instead of owning up to the violation, they complain about who or what caught them making the violation. Having said that, I admit that the use of cameras to catch traffic violations is troublesome - if not also unconstitutional - because the owner of a vehicle isn't necessarily the person who is driving the vehicle at the time of the traffic violation. Justice requires that the driver be cited for a traffic violation, but that justice won't happen if a camera alone is used to detect a traffic violation, because a camera cannot determine whether or not the offender driving the vehicle is the owner of that vehicle. Thus, it looks to me as if that Florida judge ruled correctly. To doubt the judge's ruling because of what state the judge is in is an act of prejudice. than call me prejudice,, I belive Florida justice is wacky at best 
when there is a hit and run, by definition, the driver cant be deterimined,, but if there is a license plate , the OWNER will e held accountable unless they can simply SHOW someone else drove the car
this is not much difference,,, Now, that is an argument worthy of consideration. |
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? That's typical liberal garbage! You can't regulate human behavior no matter how hard you try! It's a play on the stupidity of the people who lack or choose not to know their rights to challenge it. Like any lie, if you enforce or tell it enough it becomes truth! lol, so human behavior is somehow tied to how fast we choose to drive a car? and I didn't even know cars had been around as long as humans..lol my opinion is tht it is no big deal to just follow the traffic laws,,,,be fortunate to be able to drive and travel as freely and easily as we can and that with the legitimate arguments about 'rights' out there, this is one where people should stop griping about their being laws that are actually ENFORCED,, regarding the operation of a vehicle,,, So next you enforce human kindness? How about mental health? Why do we need science? Laws? You seem to think they can regulate anything about us, our lives, our rights, and it's going to change human nature? It will only change the limits of control, not the human equation! I truly have no clue what you are talking about? human kindness? mental health? I manage EVERYDAY to wtch my meter and drive the SPEED LIMIT that's a very easy and DEFINABLE And CONTROLLABLE Action I also manage to stop at stop signs ,,no connection at all to the vagueness of 'kindness', or 'mental health' If it has to be explained, you wouldn't understand, and that says a lot. Morality can't be regulated, but you seem to believe the gov't can break a law to impose a law, and that is flawed judgement! if you believe speed limits are about morality,,, than there isn't much logic I can use in this conversation that would be understood,,, my vehicle, I should know who is in it,, unless I report it stolen my vehicle, my responsibility,,, period I hope your driving is better on the highway than it is in your ability to maintain rather than dodge or redirect a topic.  msharmony did not go off topic.
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver Because I appreciate your reasoning Harmony I want to pass on some information that you may or may not be aware of concerning the use of photo radar equipment, speed cameras, and red light cameras�People who think photo enforcement equipment does not affect them as long as they obey the laws might want to reconsider�.Camera malfunctions and program dishonesty targets the innocent as well as the guilty�If you do find an erroneous ticket "in your mailbox" this is what you will have to look forward to�.Missing work to appear in court, money for an attorney if you so choose, missing work to attend traffic school to avoid paying a fine, paying the fine for an offense you did not commit, points added to you license which could affect an increase in your insurance rates or cause you to lose the benefit of a good driver discount for same�All of this can and does happen every day to people who "drive the speed limit"�It you look it up, you can find plenty of documented examples�. |
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver Because I appreciate your reasoning Harmony I want to pass on some information that you may or may not be aware of concerning the use of photo radar equipment, speed cameras, and red light cameras�People who think photo enforcement equipment does not affect them as long as they obey the laws might want to reconsider�.Camera malfunctions and program dishonesty targets the innocent as well as the guilty�If you do find an erroneous ticket "in your mailbox" this is what you will have to look forward to�.Missing work to appear in court, money for an attorney if you so choose, missing work to attend traffic school to avoid paying a fine, paying the fine for an offense you did not commit, points added to you license which could affect an increase in your insurance rates or cause you to lose the benefit of a good driver discount for same�All of this can and does happen every day to people who "drive the speed limit"�It you look it up, you can find plenty of documented examples�. as Im sure we can find plenty of people falsely charged with many things in the 'justice' system but I still think its more the exception than the rule, and that the importance of monitoring the roads is more protective than harmful |
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver Because I appreciate your reasoning Harmony I want to pass on some information that you may or may not be aware of concerning the use of photo radar equipment, speed cameras, and red light cameras�People who think photo enforcement equipment does not affect them as long as they obey the laws might want to reconsider�.Camera malfunctions and program dishonesty targets the innocent as well as the guilty�If you do find an erroneous ticket "in your mailbox" this is what you will have to look forward to�.Missing work to appear in court, money for an attorney if you so choose, missing work to attend traffic school to avoid paying a fine, paying the fine for an offense you did not commit, points added to you license which could affect an increase in your insurance rates or cause you to lose the benefit of a good driver discount for same�All of this can and does happen every day to people who "drive the speed limit"�It you look it up, you can find plenty of documented examples�. as Im sure we can find plenty of people falsely charged with many things in the 'justice' system but I still think its more the exception than the rule, and that the importance of monitoring the roads is more protective than harmful Question...If you did get charged erroneously, how would you handle it?.... |
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as Im sure we can find plenty of people falsely charged with many things in the 'justice' system but I still think its more the exception than the rule, and that the importance of monitoring the roads is more protective than harmful I have no objection to someone challenging the constitutionality of traffic cameras if the constitutionality of such cameras is in doubt. At the same time, I find it foolish for people to violate traffic laws and then to whine about getting caught. |
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver Because I appreciate your reasoning Harmony I want to pass on some information that you may or may not be aware of concerning the use of photo radar equipment, speed cameras, and red light cameras�People who think photo enforcement equipment does not affect them as long as they obey the laws might want to reconsider�.Camera malfunctions and program dishonesty targets the innocent as well as the guilty�If you do find an erroneous ticket "in your mailbox" this is what you will have to look forward to�.Missing work to appear in court, money for an attorney if you so choose, missing work to attend traffic school to avoid paying a fine, paying the fine for an offense you did not commit, points added to you license which could affect an increase in your insurance rates or cause you to lose the benefit of a good driver discount for same�All of this can and does happen every day to people who "drive the speed limit"�It you look it up, you can find plenty of documented examples�. as Im sure we can find plenty of people falsely charged with many things in the 'justice' system but I still think its more the exception than the rule, and that the importance of monitoring the roads is more protective than harmful Question...If you did get charged erroneously, how would you handle it?.... legally,,, |
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver Because I appreciate your reasoning Harmony I want to pass on some information that you may or may not be aware of concerning the use of photo radar equipment, speed cameras, and red light cameras�People who think photo enforcement equipment does not affect them as long as they obey the laws might want to reconsider�.Camera malfunctions and program dishonesty targets the innocent as well as the guilty�If you do find an erroneous ticket "in your mailbox" this is what you will have to look forward to�.Missing work to appear in court, money for an attorney if you so choose, missing work to attend traffic school to avoid paying a fine, paying the fine for an offense you did not commit, points added to you license which could affect an increase in your insurance rates or cause you to lose the benefit of a good driver discount for same�All of this can and does happen every day to people who "drive the speed limit"�It you look it up, you can find plenty of documented examples�. as Im sure we can find plenty of people falsely charged with many things in the 'justice' system but I still think its more the exception than the rule, and that the importance of monitoring the roads is more protective than harmful Question...If you did get charged erroneously, how would you handle it?.... legally,,, Which tells me nothing....Why not just tell me?...Does legally mean you would pay the ticket?... |
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msharmony
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver Because I appreciate your reasoning Harmony I want to pass on some information that you may or may not be aware of concerning the use of photo radar equipment, speed cameras, and red light cameras�People who think photo enforcement equipment does not affect them as long as they obey the laws might want to reconsider�.Camera malfunctions and program dishonesty targets the innocent as well as the guilty�If you do find an erroneous ticket "in your mailbox" this is what you will have to look forward to�.Missing work to appear in court, money for an attorney if you so choose, missing work to attend traffic school to avoid paying a fine, paying the fine for an offense you did not commit, points added to you license which could affect an increase in your insurance rates or cause you to lose the benefit of a good driver discount for same�All of this can and does happen every day to people who "drive the speed limit"�It you look it up, you can find plenty of documented examples�. as Im sure we can find plenty of people falsely charged with many things in the 'justice' system but I still think its more the exception than the rule, and that the importance of monitoring the roads is more protective than harmful Question...If you did get charged erroneously, how would you handle it?.... legally,,, Which tells me nothing....Why not just tell me?...Does legally mean you would pay the ticket?... where I live, there are offices that dedicate themselves EXCLUSIVELY To driving tickets they regularly get tickets dismissed that were issued IN PERSON to the drivers,,, I would most likely hire one of them,,,, |
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver Because I appreciate your reasoning Harmony I want to pass on some information that you may or may not be aware of concerning the use of photo radar equipment, speed cameras, and red light cameras�People who think photo enforcement equipment does not affect them as long as they obey the laws might want to reconsider�.Camera malfunctions and program dishonesty targets the innocent as well as the guilty�If you do find an erroneous ticket "in your mailbox" this is what you will have to look forward to�.Missing work to appear in court, money for an attorney if you so choose, missing work to attend traffic school to avoid paying a fine, paying the fine for an offense you did not commit, points added to you license which could affect an increase in your insurance rates or cause you to lose the benefit of a good driver discount for same�All of this can and does happen every day to people who "drive the speed limit"�It you look it up, you can find plenty of documented examples�. as Im sure we can find plenty of people falsely charged with many things in the 'justice' system but I still think its more the exception than the rule, and that the importance of monitoring the roads is more protective than harmful Question...If you did get charged erroneously, how would you handle it?.... legally,,, Which tells me nothing....Why not just tell me?...Does legally mean you would pay the ticket?... where I live, there are offices that dedicate themselves EXCLUSIVELY To driving tickets they regularly get tickets dismissed that were issued IN PERSON to the drivers,,, I would most likely hire one of them,,,, Thank you..... |
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