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| Topic: Patriotism or Vandalism? | |
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There are many arguments pro and con for these cameras, even many of the pros are legitimate, but as with all things "imposed by regulation" they are an infringement on personal freedom however meaningful or good intentioned the idea may be. The cons definitely out weigh the pros. Lets install a few in the backrooms of congress and see how long they are allowed! Many states now are even offering rewards for downing drones, but I wouldn't be so foolish as to try and claim it if I did bring one down! Whether such acts are vandalism or patriotic..... I'm afraid a court wouldn't see it as patriotic no matter how the public views it. So my opinion would be "neither", but I do view them as unconstitutional, revenue generating, and an infringement on personal liberty. |
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not your property? vandalism
private property? freedom of speech |
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not your property? vandalism private property? freedom of speech Why wouldn't it be our property. It was payed for by taxes |
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not your property? vandalism private property? freedom of speech Why wouldn't it be our property. It was payed for by taxes  
Need to take em down....and find a better way to make ends meet.... |
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everytime I see one that's miraculously moved to a different location,I think of TRIFFIDs!
The ones here are pretty high up,couldn't reach them without a Ladder! 
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don't speed
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don't speed Don't condemn |
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don't speed Don't condemn does that include condemning those who place equipment to catch people breaking the speed limit laws
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don't speed Don't condemn does that include condemning those who place equipment to catch people breaking the speed limit laws
When it violates our constitutional rights, it's not condemning them, it's standing up against them! When speeding somehow becomes an act defying our constitutional liberties your argument might have merit! |
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don't speed Don't condemn does that include condemning those who place equipment to catch people breaking the speed limit laws
When it violates our constitutional rights, it's not condemning them, it's standing up against them! When speeding somehow becomes an act defying our constitutional liberties your argument might have merit! and,,, what part of the constitution mentions speeding or traffic cameras? |
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don't speed Don't condemn does that include condemning those who place equipment to catch people breaking the speed limit laws
When it violates our constitutional rights, it's not condemning them, it's standing up against them! When speeding somehow becomes an act defying our constitutional liberties your argument might have merit! and,,, what part of the constitution mentions speeding or traffic cameras? Try reading the 4th amendment! |
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don't speed Don't condemn does that include condemning those who place equipment to catch people breaking the speed limit laws
When it violates our constitutional rights, it's not condemning them, it's standing up against them! When speeding somehow becomes an act defying our constitutional liberties your argument might have merit! and,,, what part of the constitution mentions speeding or traffic cameras? Try reading the 4th amendment! 
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. is there somewhere in there where speeding cameras or laws is mentioned? |
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don't speed Don't condemn does that include condemning those who place equipment to catch people breaking the speed limit laws
When it violates our constitutional rights, it's not condemning them, it's standing up against them! When speeding somehow becomes an act defying our constitutional liberties your argument might have merit! and,,, what part of the constitution mentions speeding or traffic cameras? Try reading the 4th amendment!
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. is there somewhere in there where speeding cameras or laws is mentioned? msharmony, the answer to your above question is "No". |
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Red Light Cameras are found to be Unconstitutional in Florida Judge Ruling http://koalaweb.com/red-light-cameras-are-found-to-be-unconstitutional-in-florida-judge-ruling.html |
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FLorida judge,,
says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Tue 09/10/13 04:53 PM
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. |
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..lol
sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Tue 09/10/13 04:59 PM
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 09/10/13 05:03 PM
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..lol sounds like a lot of grip over nothing don't speed, obey the driving signs its not that complicated if you want to risk it, accept the consequence of that decision,,, So they have the right to break the law to catch you breaking the law if it profits them.... that's a double standard! no proof they are breaking a law by monitoring the speed of traffic on GOVERNMENT FUNDED roads,,, do you realize TWICE AS MANY people die in vehicle accidents than in homicides,,,, ALL HOMICIDES< ALL RACES< IM TALKING why gripe about attempts to see that those dangerous LUXURIES we call vehicles are being operated in as safe a manner as possible? |
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FLorida judge,, says it all if its your car, you should be driving it or prove you weren't,, otherwise, how would they catch hit and runs or drunk drivers? if its your car its your responsibility,, or should be but florida is another country in how it interprets justice,,,so Im not surprised that A judge (one person) saw it differently So you are prejudice against FL as well? Like Obozo, you seem to pick and choose what laws you wish to see enforced, don't care about the removal of rights that don't affect you, or who the victims will be. yep, Florida has shown of late its skewed 'justice' casey Anthony Zimmerman stand your ground ,,,,,I have very sound reason to suspect the sense of justice in that state but besides the point,, I drive EVERYDAY, I stop at stoplights and I drive the speed limit my choice, my consequence it doesn't affect me any differently than any other driver |
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