I pulled this image off another website. Not to make fun of or ridicule. What I want to know is "Why" This picture is of basically a good looking young lady. But, For whatever reason she chooses to have all this metal around her face. I don't get it. To me, It doesn't make this person look any better. If anything,it's distracting. It takes away from her natural beauty. Can anyone give me a reasonable answer to why,or what makes someone want to butcher or mutilate themselves this way? And yes, To me this is a form of self mutilation.

This picture it tame compared to others I've seen. I'm using this one just to make a point and maybe learn something.

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Weren't you ever young?

(BTW, tis the lower set of brackets, not the upper ones:-)

I just got james a dermal the other day..looks kewl
It's all about preference..

I prefer to ink myself;)

There is and will always be someone
That does not approve.

Just saying..

Yes, I was young once. And I remember it well. Remember most all the stupid things I ever did. But, I came from a different time and a different place. I don't remember one kid from my young years ever getting holes punched in them,anywhere. Except girls. Girls always loved getting ear rings. But not 20 in each ear. If a girl did that she would have been considered a freak show at the very least. Kids from my time might have even thought she might be off in the head. If a young pretty girl did like this girl,then,She might have found herself in a mental hospital for evaluation. At the very least she would have been a social out cast. Then, Kids just didn't do stuff like this.

I'm a child of the 60's 70's and 80's. It was the late 70's through the 80's where I was doing most of my tom catting. All the boys and girls I knew did the best they could to look the best they could with what ever they had. They dressed to attract each other. I don't remember one girl ever doing anything to make herself unattractive.

Seems now they don't care. They punch holes in their bodies to hang things from that remind me and a lot of others of those rings that farmers use to put through a cows nose. I once,out of curiosity,dated a woman for a short time that had rings in her lip. If not those,she had these things like the girl pictured here has.I forget the name of them. I called them tiny horse shoes. Kissing her felt so weird. All that metal. Plus it was cold and hard. It took the wind right out of my sales.

Omg....MMFWCL....I just realized.. that little homie is
Wearing a hatchet man... ..I have a red one..rawr


Whoop Whoop

#Lette

She wants to get attention from everyone...which she did :)

Because it is her body, and her choice to do what she will with it.

What is unattractive to you, is attractive to millions...And millions, of other people.

Answer me this though, as I'm always interested...Why does it bother you if you obviously won't date these women?

I went to a primary school in the early 70s. At 7 my ears were pierced & I was called a gypsy by the other kids. It didn't stop of having more piercings. By 1982 I had the top parts of my ears done also had a really naff tattoo done. Since then I've had my nose done twice but had to give up those because of problems. Two weeks ago I had my rook done in my ear so now I have 11 piercings. It as 2kidsmom said it is about preference. We all have something we like wether it's piercings, tats, dying our hair or even comming on a dating site! When I had my rook pierced it was just after I knew I wouldn't go back to my husband & be over shadowed by him. It was a small gift to myself instead of a large bottle of wine.

It doesn't in so many words,"Bother" me. If someone wants to make a freak show out of themselves, I guess that's up to them. This is more of a discussion about the human mind. And what makes all of us do the things we do. I think Rizajune is closest to being right with her post,



It's a cry for attention. When I and my sister were growing up we had both our parents. We had their attention. They taught us everything we needed to know about life. Including,but not limited to, Self respect. Respect for others and how we should carry ourselves in our lives and in front of other people. I think a lot of them now are not being taught much of anything by their parents.

Mainly, Because the family unit has broken down. I'm not saying anything against single mothers. I'm sure many of them have done the best they could. But since Moms and Pops don't seem to want to stay together anymore, I think that's why we see more and more of this and stuff like it.

I think that many of the ones you see this way,They lack self respect. It wasn't taught to them one way or the other. Many of them don't even realize it. It's normal to them. They lack self love. They look in a mirror and they don't like what they see. They think they are ugly. When in reality they are really very beautiful to others. They want to be different. They want to stand out in a crowd. They think that punching holes in their bodies,or other things, With make them more accepted within a group.

This goes way deeper than most think. It's not just,"I want this ring in my a$$ or this tat on my nose because I think I like it". Or "It reminds me of someone". No,theirs more to it than that. It's deeper than some realize or want to admit.

The human mind fascinates me.When you work in different fields of law enforcement,You meet all kinds.

Who knows, The next thread I might take a notion to start could be about child perverts. Believe me, When you work in law enforcement,You see a little of everything. And they all make you wonder "Why".

So much for not making fun or ridiculing anyone right?



Maybe for some, but not all. As was mentioned many people genuinely enjoy it and have little interest in what anyone else thinks or likes. Furthermore, why call it a lack of self respect or mention it as a loss of respect for others? It hurts no one at all, and many who do this are some of the most respectful people you can meet. Calling it a lack of self respect is in itself a form of disrespect since you are not respecting and recognizing the person as an individual, and judging them on a trait you personally do not like nor understand. But then again, who cares what they do with their lives and what kind of person they are when they don't dress and look the way another expects them to right?



Because obviously every person who gets a piecing or tattoo comes from a broken family, and every broken family prompts this. Also, what about people in other cultures who see much of this stuff as a way of life and part of their heritage?



Maybe in some cases I would agree with that, but in a great majority it is because they want that ring in their a$$ or that tat on their nose because they like it. Maybe one day they will change their mind and regret it, it is certainly possible and it happens a lot more than people realize, which is why a lot of people heavily into tattoos and body modification tell people to make sure it is something they truly want before they proceed. heaven knows enough people do do it just to fit in or reach some "cool" factor, but the fact remains many do get it done because they enjoy it and see it as a form of art, self expression or beauty. If so, I see nothing wrong with their vision and staunchly support their decision to follow through on it.



Nothing wrong with being curious about the human mind, except when you try to boil down normal "humans" into "freak shows" just because they do something you don't quite get. That is not curiosity, that is intolerance and bigotry. You even sort of lumped them in the same group with pedophiles... nice one there. I really can't even begin to comment on that in particular. You don't get it, and you don't find it attractive, I get that, and I fully accept and respect it since our opinions are what make us individuals. I do take issue with a lot of the derogatory statements and insinuations here though.

I will say body modification, heavy tattooing and extreme piercing are certainly not the norm, and as such will continue to be looked upon by many as an oddity or fad more than what many think of as "civilized society".... but that in no way makes anyone interested in the art less deserving of the same respect and dignity many of us already enjoy.

Just my personal opinion.

A freak show really????
Guess I'm a freak...show....and my son...

I do enjoy being different.. and I like to stand out
But I didn't come from a broken home..I am a single
Mom..my oldest sons dad died young..I divorced the youngest
Because he abused me..n cheated.so guess my kids are growing up
In a broken~home..rolls eyes*
But I don't think it makes me a freak show..or them
Just got me a new tat...still itching its so new..to add to
My Freak show

I think you are both horribly, horribly wrong...And I'm sure there is nothing I, or anyone else, can say that is going to change what you think.

That's alright; diversity naturally means people will have different opinions...I'd just rather embrace them.

This metalheadedness has been around for a while. It wasn't as
prevalent in the 70's and 80's, as it is today. Now it seems
to be widespread. In the 80's, it was only the punk rockers
who had their lips and ears pierced. Now we see almost every-
thing on the human anatomy getting pierced up.

Tats and body art is nothing new for men. Guys have
been tattooing themselves for centuries. For women,
it really hadn't seemed to be as big as now. Now
a lot of women are starting to go as far as some
men did, back in the day, tatting themselves up
to look like road maps.

I might Ink my whole body..I'm not addicted.. I'm committed.
#2k~

Road maps?? Another nice one..


A freak show..with a road map...


Hummm.may I never get lost....

I meant it as nothing personal against people who
tat themselves up. And I didn't use the term "freak
show". It's a personal taste, which has obviously
grown in popularity over the years.

"Road map" is an old term". My Dad used to use it.

Well OP, it never stopped me from befriending quite a few with tats, or dyed hair, etc. Yes, some might struggle with emotions or whatever, but I don't seriously believe it always means something just because someone has a piercing or whatever other image change. You're not gonna like me that much then, because I dyed my hair dark purple. lol. Naw, I think it's just wrong to think there's anything behind a small change here and there. What if she REALLY DID just fancy having a few piercings? We all get urges. That was probably one of her's, but to assume there was more to it.............no i don't think so.

And I bet it looks awesome!

Agreed

You didn't read very close. I wasn't talking about the picture I posted when I said that. I haven't ridiculed it once. As a matter of fact, I said she was/is a pretty girl. More than once. What I said about the freak show, I was talking about the the millions of others out there that go way farther than the picture posted.

And no, There was no link between child perverts and people who poke holes in themselves. Just the one you made up in your own mind.



Now, If I wanted to read something into this,pretty much the way you did me,Turn it around and make it sound like something it's not. You sound just as full of intolerance and bigotry as you try to make others sound like they are. What is "normal?" What I'm trying to tell you,Their is no in between.

You can't say that just a few piercings are normal. But,100 isn't. If a person puts one ring there nose,That's normal. If they put 5,that's not. No in betweens here. You can't ride both sides. You can't say that "light" body modification is normal. But "heavy" is not. You have to take a stand one way or the other.

The other part of your statement,



What do you think is "civilized society?" Are people with just a few tats or piercings, "civilized society" Or, Are the ones who poke holes all in their bodies or tat almost every inch? Or the ones who don't do it at all? Sorry, Middle ground here.