A group of 160 citizens, many if not most of whom were armed, confronted government officials Tuesday who had attempted to have a wounded Army veteran kicked out of a meeting due to the fact that he carried a gun. The veteran has a state license for concealed carry, which means that he was carrying the gun to the meeting within the boundaries of the law.

The story of the incident, which occurred at a city council meeting in Oak Harbor, Wash., made national news three weeks ago.

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"A gun in the hands of a free man frightens and angers the government, not because they fear the power of the gun, but, rather, the spirit of the man who holds it."

scares me for the same reason,, some 'free men' are cowards, others are paranoid, and some are hateful and some are impulsive,,,some have SERIOUS lack of coping skills



reason to be scared, not every 'free man' has the same spirit,,,

A perfect reason why EVERYONE should be allowed weapons of equal or greater capability!

Criminals will always find a gun and have no regard for laws. So you want to disarm the rest of us denying us protection against, or defense of our families, against those odds.

Just goes to show how screwed up liberal logic is!

what they are afraid of is assassination. In this country that is a valid security concern and I think the lot of them should go to jail. If the building was posted no weapons, he was NOT within the limits of the law. Gathering hosts have the right to accpet weapons at their meetings or not for security reasons, mainly

can ayone say JFK RFK Honest Abe that congress woman in AZ etc etc


No weapons at these gatherings is just good common sense as well as a VALID security issue

I would imagine, if the majority were packing, the minority would mind their manners.

You can't mandate human morality by law, you will only victimize the innocents

BTW please points those at my friends too, thanks and ...oh....buh-bye

lol

All the more reason CHL's are needed.

... but every "free man" has the same rights.

Good riddance to ol Abe Lincoln!

"BTW please points those at my friends too, thanks and ...oh....buh-bye"

What?

actually believe more bullets flying amounts to propensity for more people dying,,not less

but that's just my 'logic',,,lol

lets have one person in a crowd shoot, everyone else crrying trying to figure out who that is start shooting too,, and see if there is less carnage than if just that one person and a TRAINED personnel or one or two trained professionals fired back,,,

Shooting rampage at Killeen Luby's left 24 dead
LOOKING BACK
| August 11, 2001

Before Oct. 16, 1991, the Central Texas town of Killeen was perhaps best known for its proximity to the Army base at Fort Hood, and Luby's was known only regionally as a popular cafeteria chain that served a wide variety of inexpensive dishes.

But on that day, both came to be linked to what was then the worst mass murder in U.S. history.

At 12:45 p.m., 35-year-old George Hennard of nearby Belton drove his pickup truck through a window at the Killeen Luby's and killed 24 people.

His 15-minute rampage ended when he shot himself after being wounded by police officers.

A team of Chronicle reporters and photographers was dispatched immediately, arriving while victims lay where they had fallen.

Under the Thursday, Oct. 17, headline "Bloodbath in Killeen," a story by Chronicle reporter Cindy Rugeley summarized what witnesses had seen: "He calmly and methodically strolled through the cafeteria, randomly shooting innocent people as they crouched under tables. Often he would stick the gun at a victim's head or body and fire."


"Hennard -- described by acquaintances as being bitter, disgruntled and deranged during the past several months -- fatally shot himself after a Texas Department of Public Safety officer charged into the building and chased Hennard into a restroom."



This was before CHL's were available in Texas. One of the women whose mother was killed had decided to leave her gun,that she usually carried in her purse,in the car.
No one there had a gun to defend themselves with.

Every free man, especially vets needs to be armed.

Those arms and ammo should be provided to those citizens by OUR gubament.

This would assume that people carrying have no training...

Not many who are inexperienced with firearms would elect to carry a loaded one, i would think. Most people i know who carry, either has some military/police training or have taken courses on the use and application of these firearms. Even those who just take courses have often grown up around them and can out shoot most police officers. Not impossible for someone with a lack of experience to try and play "hero" in a shootout though, regrettably.

I am curious as to the "trained" personnel of which you reference. For instance, you would be surprised at how well-trained, civilians today can be with the U.S. being as involved in foreign wars as it has in the last 11 years.

For those untrained, perhaps more training should be made available to those who would like to pursue it... Maybe some government subsidies for programs? In the very least Uncle Sam should stop cleaning the ammo off from gun store shelves so the civilian populace can practice. Even trained civilians need to stay in shape. Rather difficult when the ammo is so hard to find (also resulting in much higher prices when it is found).

Disturbing Corporate Paramilitaries Appear In Wisconsin

by JacobSloan on August 14, 2013 in News
Talking Points Memo on a mining company’s quelling protests using a paramilitary force rented from a real estate mogul:

There’s been a battle royale in Wisconsin over an effort to establish a big iron mining operation near Lake Superior, to be owned and operated by a company called Gogebic Taconite. Protests have been staged since the operation got started.

But people started to get freaked out over the weekend when Gogebic brought in what the Wisconsin State Journal calls “masked security toting semi-automatic rifles and wearing camouflaged uniforms.”

I started looking into the security company behind the paramilitaries, an outfit called Bulletproof Securities out of Scottsdale.

The Bulletproof website lists all sorts of security/paramilitary type services. They even have their own ‘border security force’, which is something I thought the federal government took care of.

Bulletproof can also provide “a QRF (quick reaction force) tactical unit to secure a manufacturing plant during a heated worker strike.” The company’s website provides an extremely wide range of services and suggests it has a huge amount of equipment to provide Quick Reaction Force services “in ALL conditions.”

Anyway, if you look around the site, Bulletproof clearly has a pretty big arsenal and a reasonably sized paramilitary at the ready to help you. So I thought I’d look Bulletproof owner Tom Parrella. And here’s where things took an even more interesting turn. Parrella isn’t just in the private security/paramilitary business. He’s also owns a major real estate agency in Scottsdale.

In fact, they’re run out of the same office on Gelding Drive. So if you’re looking for a new McMansion in the Scottsdale area and also need paramilitary [forces] they’ve got you covered. I had never realized there were synergies between residential real estate and paramilitary services.

Now two state legislators are asking the company to withdraw the guards/paramilitaries. One of them, Bob Jauch, “said he was especially concerned that the guards are carrying high-powered rifles more appropriate for fighting wars than for guarding construction equipment in a scenic forest that draws scores of hikers and vacationers in addition to mine protesters.”

and the second amendment gives a free people the right to be armed

better common sense if everyone was armed the shooter could have
neutralized before they pulled the trigger