"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

-George W. Bush

Lots of haha and sometimes too much brou

As a mature older woman I can sometimes cringe at the suggestion that my conversations and posts on an adult sight must be edited to accommodate a PG rating but if it means the sight can attract more advertisers, remain free, and make more people feel comfortable that their name and reputation can be associated with Mingle I don't really have a problem with it.

Friendships can start on Mingle and progress to private chats and emails where such restraint is not necessary to prevent offense. The old there is a time and a place for everything.

Having been in business in earlier years I know how sensitive a customer base can sometimes be and how some people will boycott or even bully a business for what they sell, where they advertise, and even what customers they serve so if an advertiser can not feel comfortable that the association with Mingle is not going to generate problems for them it is going to be really tough to sell the site.

While the Sex and intimacy thread was not a favorite of mine and I rarely knew what it said I had people remark about it and the fact that it was on Mingle and why was I. So there is a certain affiliation to all threads weather you read or post in them or not.

And sadly what is once on the net is always on the net and potential customers, employers, potential friends, or even mates do judge you by the company you keep. .

That profanity filter and the way people misspell words here to get around it is super lame.

As I see it, you get what you pay for or (in the case of moderators) work for.

So, if you want to participate in a forum where anything goes, then pay to participate.

I've been on a British dating site that had a sub forum for discussing sex and it bothered nobody apart from uptight people and women that didn't like being trolled by guys complaining about them not putting out.

I don't think that this is about money. It's about politics and it's an American site with a rather vocal religious right wing faction constantly pushing their moral prejudices.

Without the advertisers, who will pay to run the site? Don't blame the site because they don't want to make all members pay to be on here. We do what we have to do to keep it free

Everyone agreed to the Terms of Service when they signed up

You may have a point about the religious factions pushing their values over legal behavior.

I recently withdrew from a mixed faith Humanitarian sewing group because several of the devout hassled me for "making them look bad" for buying a single draft beer with my BBQ lunch even though this group picked the place we dined regularly (on separate checks) even setting in the bar area. As an adult, in sports bar/café I felt I had the right to order anything I wanted from the menu in a public place without them dictating their personal values. Especially since I was not driving and the person I was riding with said nothing.

It is one thing to dictate your religious values in your own home or church but in public places? To other adults? Only in America. lol

Hi Rose

I'm not surprised but a little disappointed that some don't get it, or seem to not even care that we have this fantastic site to mingle and it's kept drama free for the most part. It's mature in nature. And, hello and it's free! People are paying to keep this going for us and we bellyache.

I get clients like that, the ones that pay the bucks are appreciative and the ones I help for free expect something for nothing and devalue the gift.

The last time that I checked, everyone has some kind of moral prejudice. So, blaming the rules of this site on the alleged "moral prejudices" of a particular segment of U.S. society is lame.

Oh come off it. It's the same people that burn books and complain ad infinitum about the lack of proper morals in the world today. We all know who they are. Only a conservative would support a ban on adult conversation on a site where everyone is supposed to be an adult. Say what you like about rules. If it wasn't for complainers reporting posts nobody would care.

They would care when they started to have to pay for membership because the advertisers pulled their ads.

Just because this is a site for adult, doesn't mean it's an "adult" site.

Not to mention, the owner doesn't want this site to be that kind of site. I don't either. Many people don't.

But everyone agreed to the Terms of Service when they signed up

The last time that I checked, we are having adult conversations on this site. Such conversations don't require a violation of common public etiquette.

actually since you are not a woman I feel more qualified to say that those casual sex trolls are more than bothersome...they are harassment. They really can be very upsetting and the nasty comments made because women dont feel obligated to care about their sex lives....most of them are probably related to hard core sites and a pretty sleazy industry, to me that is something worth objecting to.

and it makes this site worth it because they are not here YAY! you will simply find a different quality of person

and really religious people have their own threads and as much right to an opinion as anyone. I just stay out of those threads if they get too "bible belt." I don;t see a whole lot of carry over to other threads from the morality on the religious threads. I don't see the problem there. And the mods will tell the religious people to take it to those forums if they do try to turn a non religious thread into a religious topic. so that is also monitored pretty well here.

I wasn't talking about that kind of trolling. I just mean guys that do things like posting threads asking people if it's worth bothering with a woman that doesn't put out by the third date. That sort of stuff gets posted here as well and I've noticed plenty of topics that were sexual in nature like that one the other week where women were asked if they would go down on a guy that wasn't circumcised.

I honestly don't actually care if there's a sex discussion forum here or not and obviously it's up to the owner of the site but all of these sites are the same. The rules are clear enough but mods interpret them at their discretion. Some posters are cool or popular and can say just about anything that they like and others aren't and get jumped on and yeah, trolled by hypocrites that say that they dislike certain posters that say negative things.

It's one thing to talk about harassment and neither a conservative or a liberal would consider that appropriate behaviour but if you complain that just talking about sex in a sub forum that you don't have to go into is indecent you are trying to force your morals on others. And no, you don't have to pay for free speach. I'm on free sites that have "anything goes" sub forums and although you might call those playgrounds for trolls at least they don't flame and hide behind mods.

people have the right to be offended by whatever,,,and we wont all be offended by the same thing

but when people offer a service, even a website or social network, its also their right to determine what the parameters will be

as mentioned before, plenty of anything goes sites out there too,,,search around for the parameters that fit us and then we don't have to complain about the one we are in not fitting our parameters,,,,

I agree. Certainly there are plenty of sites like that available if that is a priority for those posters. I mean, I used to post in them, but I don;t miss them. Most of my posts then in S&I aren't a whole lot different than how I post now when topics of itimacy come up.

There was nothing in that forum in my opinion that we have lost and I think not having them has improved the quality of the site.

well if those are the sites you prefer, you know where they are. I simply do not see the issues you see and I do not think there is anything "noble " about "honest" trolls from sex caht forums. they are sleaze. no one is hiding behins mods. we count on the mods to keep that kind of sleaze off the site and they do it pretty well here.

That's your opinion but every site has trolls that hide behind mods and they are the sort of people that always talk as if they are speaking for the community.

I don't go in forums where women are trolled because it's rare for any woman to post in a flame forum and they do hide behind mods and stick to moderated forums where they can get away with being bitchy.

I post in a flame forum because the rules are the same for everyone and it doesn't matter if you are a mod or a friend of a mod. Sometimes the topics are about sex but more often than not it's politics or idle banter and I'll take the right to free speach over being a member of The Mickey Mouse Club any day.

As farr as casual sex sites go, that isn't your thing but the people that go on them are there to have fun and not to talk to a bunch of picky women that want the moon on a stick, so each to his own I would say.

I love where some want to bring in the Mods as if we let people slide for the actions they do... I have busted just as many long term members as I have short term members. Rules are Rules no matter who you are.......

Myself the Sex & Intimacy Forum did not bother me. I had pretty much quit posting in there due to all the threads were mainly who would sleep with the one above shshsh not my kind of entertainment... I prefer the forums as they are I have been on sites where there was a lack of Mods and they were down right ugly to each other....

The way I see it I joined I read the rules I follow those rules. Just like if I was to invite someone in my house if you come in and try to stir things up and make and azz of yourself you know where the door is, don't let it hit you on your back side going out....