you have a good heart

the kid was walking to the store during the intermission of a game he was watching with his little brother, he was getting candy and probably finding some time to chat alone with his female friend by cell

he hung out under shelter for a bit when it started to rain and then tried to find his stepmothers home again in a community where the homes looked alike

zimmerman was going to the store too, but decided to stop his vehicle to watch the kid because he was 'suspicious' to him,,,then decided to get out the car and follow the kid, then decided after the kid lost him once to run after him again,,,,,

no real subtext, unfortunately, no drugs, no nothing

just paranoia,, on the part of a zimmerman who felt he was protector against 'goons' who get away,,, and on the part of a kid who was being followed around late at night in an area he wasnt familiar with,,,

I agree . . . and what if Martin caught a glimpse of the gun that Zimmerman was carrying. Wouldn't that have caused Martin to fear for his life?

Whole bunch of 'what ifs.

Looking like prosecution got jack and is failing at nailing big Z

looks like people gonna believe what they want to believe based upon the 'FACTS'


from my perspective

FACT: Zimmerman was 10 years oider than T and armed with a gun that could be seen when he moved

FACT: ZImmerman had a documented history of putting his hands on people

FACT: ZImmerman was upset at the idea that this person may get away before cops arrived (To do nothing since he had broken no law)

FACT: Although ZImmerman had received beatings from GROWN MAN willingly being trained in MMA gym,,,,he claims to have felt in IMMINENT danger from a 5 foot 11, 158 pound boy

FACT: no evidence ZImmerman even TRIED to use his HANDS , FIGHT to protect himelf like most reasonable folks do in a fight


FACT: Zimmerman and phone witness verify ZImmerman INTENTLY followed Trayvong


FACT: Trevyon had only skittles and a pop

FACT: Treyvon punched on ZImmerman

FACT: ZImmerman shot Treyvon


,,,race aside, my perspective is ZImmerman is a full of crap adult who pursued a young unarmed man in the rain at night(an action that reasonable people might consider threatening and imminentely dangerous to them)

and CHOSE to kill him rather than try to fight back like a REASONABLE person would do,,especially one with MMA training and a 50 pound advantage,,,,

and he should have some accountability for this young mans death,,,

No mention of ghettos testimony being fact?

That's right.
Hearsay isn't fact, is it?

Is the criminal charge against Zimmerman the correct charge, though?

. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility. Second degree murder is different from First Degree Murder which is a premeditated, intentional killing, or results from a vicious crime such as arson, rape, or armed robbery.


non premeditated : I believe the original intent was to keep an eye on a situation


resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility : I believe the behavior of following someone while armed with a gun makes death a distinct possibility,,

I think even putting ones hands on someone in a threatening manner can be 'assult' , cops cuff people about that very thing all the time,, Including Zimmerman himself at one time

,,,whether ASSAULT was present is what the jury will have to determine,,,

Prosecution witness already stated dead thug was straddling Big Z assaulting him.
Self defense.

If Z walks, will there be riots? No justice no peace?

What if Martin was acting in self-defense against an armed stalker.

Yeah, I know. It's a "what-if", but that's the problem. Martin isn't alive to tell his side of the story.

By the way, does anyone here believe that Zimmerman would have followed Martin if Zimmerman hadn't been carrying a loaded gun?

Stereotyping and Opinions are all over this thread and many other topics on here. Public has a right to their own thoughts and opinions. Yet many are not really Facts.

There have been threats of 'the other culture going out and killing dem sum white folks.

Thats how OJ got off. Threats of rioting.

if your neighborhood was being preyed upon by thieves every night, you may get tired of it and go on a patrol yourself. that is not being full of crap.
there are only two people who know the facts of what happened that night. if we could hear both people, we would have two different accounts of the same incident. unfortunately we will only ever have one side. both parties could have defused the situation in different ways. both should have stood their ground and waited for an officer to arrive and settle the situation. neither had to be aggressive, but they both chose to be.
zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty. the fact is, he has to live with what happened no matter how the criminal case ends

nah, he 'got off' because people in LA didn't trust LA cops,, and not necessarily without good reason

witnesses also saw Zimmerman on top too,,, moments in a larger sequence of events, doesn't prove assault,,,

True