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Topic: Texas Vs California, which is the better place to live?
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Sat 04/13/13 08:39 AM
California
Hard to start business, 4 to 5 years to break ground and start construction
Not a right to work state, big Unions
Big regulation, $133,00 per cost for business to comply
Unhealthy lawsuit climate
High Taxes
High cost of living, high gas prices
1/3 (3.7%) of the nation welfare recipients, yet only 1/8 of the nation population
23.5% poverty rate
Hard to get a gun, lots of rules including set waiting periods,
A lot of government spending
Legislator pass on average 900 bills a year. 3to 4 bills a day
$178,789 a year salary LA City Counsel, full time
LA City Counsel a car that is exempt for having to pay meters.
High unaffordable pensions
Civil forfeiture laws California has to prove you did something wrong for them to take your property.
Eminent Domain, abolish redevelopment agencies which were the main abuser
License Rules worst the Texas

Texas
Easy to start a business, 4 to 5 months to break ground and start construction
Right to work
Loser Pays, you bring a false claim lawsuit and you pay the court fees and lawyers
No income tax
Low cost of living, 42% less then California
1/5 (1.8%) of the nation welfare recipients
16.5% poverty rate
3 days to get a gun, just pass a federal background check,
Little government spending
Legislator in session ever 2 years for 140 days
$37,500 a year salary Dallas City Counsel, part time
$1,400 a year salary San Antonio City Counsel, part time
Civil forfeiture laws allow Texas to take property and have to prove you’re innocent to get it back.
Eminent Domain, took private property for the cowboys stadium
License required for Shampooers, teacher license to coach sports

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/13/13 08:47 AM
right now, texas has the 15th best economy in the world... we are doing better than most other countries...

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Sat 04/13/13 09:53 AM
Texas may not be perfect but it is doing better then the central planners in California.

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/13/13 09:59 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 04/13/13 10:00 AM
Id rather live in California,, because of


weather: average summmer 73 in cali vs 81 in texas
http://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/average-state-temperatures-in-summer.php


per capita income: california is number 12, texas is number 33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income#States_ranked_by_per_capita_income


pverty rate: california is 13%, texas is 16.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/all-states/percent-of-people-of-all-ages-in-poverty#map


gun ownership: california 1 in 5, texas 1 in 3
http://usliberals.about.com/od/Election2012Factors/a/Gun-Owners-As-Percentage-Of-Each-States-Population.htm[/url}


educational ranking better in cali than texas : http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=7247


and on a personal note, I have just seen and heard much more anti poor, anti brown bigotry from texans than californians,,,,


its all about what environment you want to live in / bring children up in


the heat and the guns alone are actually enough to disinterest me,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/13/13 10:10 AM


Id rather live in California,, because of


weather: average summmer 73 in cali vs 81 in texas
http://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/average-state-temperatures-in-summer.php


per capita income: california is number 12, texas is number 33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income#States_ranked_by_per_capita_income


pverty rate: california is 13%, texas is 16.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/all-states/percent-of-people-of-all-ages-in-poverty#map


gun ownership: california 1 in 5, texas 1 in 3
http://usliberals.about.com/od/Election2012Factors/a/Gun-Owners-As-Percentage-Of-Each-States-Population.htm[/url}


educational ranking better in cali than texas : http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=7247


and on a personal note, I have just seen and heard much more anti poor, anti brown bigotry from texans than californians,,,,


you forgot anti-gay...

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/13/13 10:13 AM



Id rather live in California,, because of


weather: average summmer 73 in cali vs 81 in texas
http://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/average-state-temperatures-in-summer.php


per capita income: california is number 12, texas is number 33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income#States_ranked_by_per_capita_income


pverty rate: california is 13%, texas is 16.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/all-states/percent-of-people-of-all-ages-in-poverty#map


gun ownership: california 1 in 5, texas 1 in 3
http://usliberals.about.com/od/Election2012Factors/a/Gun-Owners-As-Percentage-Of-Each-States-Population.htm[/url}


educational ranking better in cali than texas : http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=7247


and on a personal note, I have just seen and heard much more anti poor, anti brown bigotry from texans than californians,,,,


you forgot anti-gay...



define anti gay,,,,

I dont support homosexual activity
I dont support abusing those engaged in it either

I think sexual tastes are private and have little to do with any other area of someones life or identity,, so Im anti discrimination of those engaged in homosexual activity, even though I believe homosexual activity to be undesirable/wrong,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/13/13 10:18 AM




Id rather live in California,, because of


weather: average summmer 73 in cali vs 81 in texas
http://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/average-state-temperatures-in-summer.php


per capita income: california is number 12, texas is number 33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income#States_ranked_by_per_capita_income


pverty rate: california is 13%, texas is 16.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/all-states/percent-of-people-of-all-ages-in-poverty#map


gun ownership: california 1 in 5, texas 1 in 3
http://usliberals.about.com/od/Election2012Factors/a/Gun-Owners-As-Percentage-Of-Each-States-Population.htm[/url}


educational ranking better in cali than texas : http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=7247


and on a personal note, I have just seen and heard much more anti poor, anti brown bigotry from texans than californians,,,,


you forgot anti-gay...



define anti gay,,,,

I dont support homosexual activity
I dont support abusing those engaged in it either

I think sexual tastes are private and have little to do with any other area of someones life or identity,, so Im anti discrimination of those engaged in homosexual activity, even though I believe homosexual activity to be undesirable/wrong,,,,


i was following your "anti's" listed, should be along the same definition...

most of that is a myth, the big cities are very diverse and not much/if any racial inequality... the small towns, however, are a lot different... the hicks out here can be a bit racial...

oldhippie1952's photo
Sat 04/13/13 11:03 AM
I lived in CA (San Diego) for a few years. The people were nasty spirited.

I now live and will stay in Dallas, unless I can wrangle Hawaii!

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/13/13 11:12 AM

I lived in CA (San Diego) for a few years. The people were nasty spirited.

I now live and will stay in Dallas, unless I can wrangle Hawaii!


i grew up in the Dallas area, garland, plano, mesquite... i moved when that stupid liberal laura miller lost the new cowboys stadium to Arlington... it should have been where the cotton bowl is now, just outside of downtown... but i guess 30 miles away is better...sad

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 04/13/13 12:29 PM
the heat and the guns alone are actually enough to disinterest me,,,,


California's interior can get quite hot.

Also, do you have a problem with Americans exercising their right as stated by the Second Amendment?

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Sat 04/13/13 08:59 PM

per capita income: california is number 12, texas is number 33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income#States_ranked_by_per_capita_income

pverty rate: california is 13%, texas is 16.8%
http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/quick-facts/all-states/percent-of-people-of-all-ages-in-poverty#map

gun ownership: california 1 in 5, texas 1 in 3
http://usliberals.about.com/od/Election2012Factors/a/Gun-Owners-As-Percentage-Of-Each-States-Population.htm[/url}

educational ranking better in cali than texas : http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=7247

its all about what environment you want to live in / bring children up in

the heat and the guns alone are actually enough to disinterest me,,,,
I know my stats are a month or two old but I don't think the change that much, especially since California is on the road to Greece. True income rate is higher because of hollywood, silicone vally and higher minimum wage but the cost of living is almost double Texas as well as higher taxes. True making more is a plus but not worth it if you have pay a lot out. I'll double check my source when I get back to work monday but I'm sure california has higher poverty then Texas.

Having guns around are a plus. Most gun crimes happen in strict gun law areas and gun free zones. Criminals don't want to stare down the barrel of a gun so they attack the defenseless.

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/14/13 12:37 AM

the heat and the guns alone are actually enough to disinterest me,,,,


California's interior can get quite hot.

Also, do you have a problem with Americans exercising their right as stated by the Second Amendment?


yes, I have a problem being surrounded by so many weapons,,,

and california has some places with very moderate temps, not aware of such a place in texas....but I could be wrong,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/14/13 12:37 AM

the heat and the guns alone are actually enough to disinterest me,,,,


California's interior can get quite hot.

Also, do you have a problem with Americans exercising their right as stated by the Second Amendment?


yes, I have a problem being surrounded by so many weapons,,,

and california has some places with very moderate temps, not aware of such a place in texas....but I could be wrong,,,

willing2's photo
Sun 04/14/13 05:48 AM


the heat and the guns alone are actually enough to disinterest me,,,,


California's interior can get quite hot.

Also, do you have a problem with Americans exercising their right as stated by the Second Amendment?


yes, I have a problem being surrounded by so many weapons,,,

and california has some places with very moderate temps, not aware of such a place in texas....but I could be wrong,,,


No problem being surrounded by gang-bangers with war-style auto-fire weapons but, skeered of law abiding citizens.
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

But, ya'll right. Texas is no place for liberals. It's hot, nasty and dusty.

All the plants, insects and animals either want to bite, stick or sting ya'

So, please, stay away.

And, thanks fer doing so.rofl rofl

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/14/13 07:42 AM



the heat and the guns alone are actually enough to disinterest me,,,,


California's interior can get quite hot.

Also, do you have a problem with Americans exercising their right as stated by the Second Amendment?


yes, I have a problem being surrounded by so many weapons,,,

and california has some places with very moderate temps, not aware of such a place in texas....but I could be wrong,,,


No problem being surrounded by gang-bangers with war-style auto-fire weapons but, skeered of law abiding citizens.
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

But, ya'll right. Texas is no place for liberals. It's hot, nasty and dusty.

All the plants, insects and animals either want to bite, stick or sting ya'

So, please, stay away.

And, thanks fer doing so.rofl rofl


my actual statement was that I dont want to be surrounded by so many guns

I dont care if they are 'gangbangers' or 'law abiding' citizens with the right to stalk and shoot me if I look 'suspicious'

thats just my preference,,,,,


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Sun 04/14/13 08:17 AM


I lived in CA (San Diego) for a few years. The people were nasty spirited.

I now live and will stay in Dallas, unless I can wrangle Hawaii!


i grew up in the Dallas area, garland, plano, mesquite... i moved when that stupid liberal laura miller lost the new cowboys stadium to Arlington... it should have been where the cotton bowl is now, just outside of downtown... but i guess 30 miles away is better...sad


Hey, I did too. I probably know you.waving

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Sun 04/14/13 08:37 AM
If you want to see what Texas looks like, just watch the movie "Giant". It's gotta be one of the uggliest states in the entire USA. I'd take Cal any day.

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 04/14/13 08:39 AM

If you want to see what Texas looks like, just watch the movie "Giant". It's gotta be one of the uggliest states in the entire USA. I'd take Cal any day.


Texas might be an ugly state compared to CA, but CA people are ugly compared to Texan southern hospitality! neiner-neiner!

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/14/13 08:42 AM
LOL @ niener niener

oldhippie1952's photo
Sun 04/14/13 08:44 AM
Oh, well I had no clue so I came close.

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