What "conspiracy theory" are you talking about? I am talking about facts and history. I'm talking about the current state of affairs in the central banking of the world and what is going on. Do you study any of that? Do you know how much trouble the Bankers are in? Do you know that the Dollar is on very shaky grounds? Do you know that the Federal Reserve is currently buying our national debt until May by creating money out of thin air and that the Tax payers will be expected to pay that back with interest?

I make statements about things that I have learned and have no reason to believe that they are not true.

(I have no one particular "conspiracy theory" about "the Rothschilds.")

Your question reveals how much you don't know what you are talking about and it reveals to me that you will not be able to convince me of anything. You have nothing for me.

Do you know anything about it? Can I learn anything from you? It does not appear so.

I would prefer this source instead.

Sure, the Rothschild (Red Shield) family has been very successful in the banking/financial industry. The family's wealth is legendary.

What I disagree with is your assessment that current members of the Rothschild family are criminals who are in control of all banking.
It appears to me that you are extrapolating what members of the Rothschild family did during the 19th Century into a claim about modern-day activities by members of that family. You can believe that extrapolation all that you want. You doing so won't hurt me.

You can disagree if you want. I did not say that they are in control of "all banking" did I? Why do you always misquote me and lie about what I have said?



It appears?

I just found that link in two minutes. It is merely a small (tiny sample) of history on how the Rothschilds started out. Even that is not entirely accurate... but I don't intend to go into that.

Why do you think that I would want to "hurt you?" This is not about you or me.

You can do your own extensive research on the Rothschilds and the other Banking families --if you really want to know the truth. The truth is all I am after.

If you can prove to me that they are not what I say they are, (cold blooded criminals who start wars and elect presidents) then I will listen.

Even in this last election these banking families contributed billions to the candidate for president of their choice, that is a matter of public record.

If you think they don't control and create governments, and even over-throw governments, then who do you think does?

I do not have to disprove something that has not been proven. All I have to do is to dismiss a claim as being unproven, and you haven't proven your claim.



And the evidence supporting your claim is . . .


Your question makes an assumption that is not proven, that one particular party creates, controls and overthrows all governments.

The claim has already been proven to me as far as I'm concerned due to all the information I have collected over many years. That is why I make the claim in the first place. I am sufficiently convinced. I vote guilty.

I have no need to prove the claim to you.

You are of no use to me because you cannot dispute my conclusions and prove that I am mistaken. Therefore my opinion cannot change.

However, what would you require as proof? The Libor scandal that proves they are thieves? The history that proves they are smugglers?
What else do you need and why should I do all that work to prove something to you?

Who are you anyway that I would need to prove anything to you?

True, my bad.

It's called 'debate'. People use forums to debate, and in such debates, participants use evidence to support their claims.

I am not here with an agenda to prove things to other people or to win debates.

I am looking for someone who can challenge what I believe or my information, with logic, facts and proof in such a way that they can convince me that I am wrong.

I have not found such a person yet.

You cannot prove a negative.

Then summarize your world view and tell me how it all works, who is really in charge, where does our money come from, etc.

Convince me that the Rothschild dynasty are wonderful people who do only good in the world. Let me see the world through your rose colored glasses.

a). As you would be aware, that would take a major essay.

b). No single group, bloodline or nation is in charge of the world.

c). That too, as you are aware, would take a major essay.



Their philanthropy is well known and I even posted a thread on it some time ago. You didn't contribute to it. I've never seen any evidence to support the negative aspects you attribute to them, and I can guarantee you that I've read as much about these insane theories that vilify the family, as you have.



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I know you didn't mean that insult and it was obviously a typo, therefore I took the liberty of correcting that error.

Yes, I am aware, and I feel the same when people demand proof from me of my claims. That would require a major essay.




No but there are at least three family bloodlines involved. And they are only hoping to be completely in charge of the world. They will fail.




So then you feel the Rothschilds are a bunch of nice people then. Okeee dokeee.

Put it this way (as I don't know them personally), I've never seen any concrete evidence that they deserve the vilification they receive. Moreover, I found a large amount of evidence to the contrary. However, my investigation wasn't subject to the prejudices I've noticed in their detractors.

The very fact that they think they are royalty, hence better than everyone else, makes me want to puke.

What? You assume they think they are better than everyone else because they think they are royalty? They are members of the British Aristocracy, as are many families, but you don't know how they feel about their position any more than I do.

Anyone who believes they are royalty and goes around sporting titles like "Baron" and "Lord" and even "Queen" and "King" think they are better than anyone else.

And yes, I believe they pretty much think they are better than most people.

Here is a good question. If Hitler hated Jews because of the way they were taking over the banking and finance aspects of Germany and the Rothschilds were considered to be "German Jews," (as history claims) then how did this family escape the holocaust?

After all, didn't Hitler accuse international Jewish bankers of engineering the Versailles Treaty which destroyed Germany financially? Wasn't Hitler's wrath aimed squarely in the direction of the international Jewish bankers, namely the House of Rothschild?

Hitler did say, "The bigger the lie…the more people will believe it".

Think about it...Did Hitler kill any Jewish international bankers? The answer is no.

Not one. [Note:In fact some members of the Warburg banking family were given a Nazi escort out of Holland in a sealed train. ..When the Gestapo went to the Rothschild mansion to arrest the head of the Vienna branch they were told by the butler to come back the following day. They did. Then they had to wait for the Baron to finish his lunch...There WAS the case of the estranged wife of a French Rothschild. "Why should the Germans harm me?" she had asked her husband in 1940. "I am from an old French family." Despite disowning the Rothschild family name (unheard of!) and reverting to her original title of nobility, she was arrested by the Gestapo in July 1944 and sent by the last transport to Ravensbruck where she was brutally murdered...]

Let's back up a bit here. Let's take a closer look at that financial shift from London to New York. Simply put…the shift from the House of Rothschild to the House of Morgan.

According to Gary Allen's best-selling book "None Dare Call It CONSPIRACY":


"Morgan is referred to by many, including Congressman Louis McFadden, (a banker who for ten years headed the House Banking and Currency Committee), as the top American agent of the English Rothschilds."

So much for the financial shift.

So the question remains…Was Hitler a Rothschild customer or an agent as well?

How about a quote: From the horse's mouth:


"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races.

Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." -- Menachem Begin

(Israeli Prime Minister, 1977-1983. Nobel Prize Winner for...Peace!)

Er, so, how is he related to the Rothschild family of British Aristocracy? Also, how can I consider such a quote authentic without a link to contextualise it?

Those are really dumb questions.

Israeli Prime Minister? ... Rothschild Zionist
Verify the quote? .......... google it.

How is he related....?

Hint: bloodlines bloodlines bloodlines...