Topic: Republicans pushing amnesty for illegal aliens
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Wed 01/30/13 06:17 AM
I was surpised to see the Republican party lining up to support and push for "comprehensive immigration reform". I thought conservatives would stick to their base and fight any attempt to pass an amnesty bill.

I was even more surprised to see our ultra conservative Arizona Governor lining up with them saying we need "comprehensive reform." They used to always say that was the code word for amnesty.

Why in the hell did they all change their positions on this? Was it because of the election and they are trying to get more hispanic votes?

McCain, Marco Rubio, Jan Brewer....wtf?

Bottom line, they are going to pass an amnesty bill.




metalwing's photo
Wed 01/30/13 06:45 AM
It's not what you think. The only one who wants amnesty is Obama. The bill being considered by the senate is a get in the back of the line after we close the borders bill.

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/30/13 06:52 AM
comprehensive CAN be code for amnesty,, but that doesnt mean it always IS code for amnesty

it can also just mean something that makes sense for our current circumstances,,,,


I was greatly affected by immigration laws being my daughters dad is british, We went through that process and its long and painstaking but I dont disagree with it , even though he was denied

I do disagree with adults who know better jumping the line and not paying their same 'dues', making that same effort to come to america that my childs father and millions of others do every day

I happen to agree with not sending the older kids back now that they are entwined into the system and contributing members of our schools, communities etc,,,,as long as they can obtain a legal 'sponsor', just like other immigrants applying, they should be able to stay

but I dont want to see ADULTS who have come as adults rewarded with legal status in front of all the others waiting in line who actually did it legally,,,

let the kids get sponsors and stay, send the adults back to the end of the line

willing2's photo
Wed 01/30/13 07:10 AM

comprehensive CAN be code for amnesty,, but that doesnt mean it always IS code for amnesty

it can also just mean something that makes sense for our current circumstances,,,,


I was greatly affected by immigration laws being my daughters dad is british, We went through that process and its long and painstaking but I dont disagree with it , even though he was denied

I do disagree with adults who know better jumping the line and not paying their same 'dues', making that same effort to come to america that my childs father and millions of others do every day

I happen to agree with not sending the older kids back now that they are entwined into the system and contributing members of our schools, communities etc,,,,as long as they can obtain a legal 'sponsor', just like other immigrants applying, they should be able to stay

but I dont want to see ADULTS who have come as adults rewarded with legal status in front of all the others waiting in line who actually did it legally,,,

let the kids get sponsors and stay, send the adults back to the end of the line

Well, I be-damned!

Great post!

One itty-bitty fact. Most border jumpers come across with ZERO identification. Is Gubament just gonna' take their word they are who they say???

I would vote for a voluntary deportation. Volunteering to be deported, I could see them not being penalized with time-outs and can apply to enter.

willing2's photo
Wed 01/30/13 12:52 PM
One guess what party Illegals swing with?

























Liberals. All liberals are supporting their agenda by supporting oBamby and Dems.
Ya'll asked for it. Now it's happening.
Like Barry told ya'll,

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Wed 01/30/13 01:39 PM


comprehensive CAN be code for amnesty,, but that doesnt mean it always IS code for amnesty

it can also just mean something that makes sense for our current circumstances,,,,


I was greatly affected by immigration laws being my daughters dad is british, We went through that process and its long and painstaking but I dont disagree with it , even though he was denied

I do disagree with adults who know better jumping the line and not paying their same 'dues', making that same effort to come to america that my childs father and millions of others do every day

I happen to agree with not sending the older kids back now that they are entwined into the system and contributing members of our schools, communities etc,,,,as long as they can obtain a legal 'sponsor', just like other immigrants applying, they should be able to stay

but I dont want to see ADULTS who have come as adults rewarded with legal status in front of all the others waiting in line who actually did it legally,,,

let the kids get sponsors and stay, send the adults back to the end of the line

Well, I be-damned!

Great post!

One itty-bitty fact. Most border jumpers come across with ZERO identification. Is Gubament just gonna' take their word they are who they say???

I would vote for a voluntary deportation. Volunteering to be deported, I could see them not being penalized with time-outs and can apply to enter.
Voluntary deportation? Now that is funny.laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 01/30/13 02:03 PM



comprehensive CAN be code for amnesty,, but that doesnt mean it always IS code for amnesty

it can also just mean something that makes sense for our current circumstances,,,,


I was greatly affected by immigration laws being my daughters dad is british, We went through that process and its long and painstaking but I dont disagree with it , even though he was denied

I do disagree with adults who know better jumping the line and not paying their same 'dues', making that same effort to come to america that my childs father and millions of others do every day

I happen to agree with not sending the older kids back now that they are entwined into the system and contributing members of our schools, communities etc,,,,as long as they can obtain a legal 'sponsor', just like other immigrants applying, they should be able to stay

but I dont want to see ADULTS who have come as adults rewarded with legal status in front of all the others waiting in line who actually did it legally,,,

let the kids get sponsors and stay, send the adults back to the end of the line

Well, I be-damned!

Great post!

One itty-bitty fact. Most border jumpers come across with ZERO identification. Is Gubament just gonna' take their word they are who they say???

I would vote for a voluntary deportation. Volunteering to be deported, I could see them not being penalized with time-outs and can apply to enter.
Voluntary deportation? Now that is funny.laugh laugh laugh

Is it, now?

Have you any idea what the penalties or other repercussions of DHS ordered deportation includes?

1, 5, 10 years before being allowed to apply for reentry. Jail, then prison for reentering without permission.

• What is voluntary departure?
If you have no way of legally remaining in the United States, voluntary departure is permission to leave the country in a way that has fewer negative consequences than being “removed.”

“Removal” is when DHS removes you from the United States to the country where you are a citizen, whether you want to be removed or not. “Voluntary departure” is when DHS wants to remove you, but you ask to be allowed to “voluntarily” leave the United States using your own money for the trip to your country.

Not everyone qualifies to ask for voluntary departure, which we explain in more detail below.

Also, there are consequences which affect your future ability to return to the United States, whether you get removed or leave voluntarily.

We will explain these consequences, so you can make an informed decision on whether you want to apply for voluntary departure or not.

It is almost always better not to ask for removal or voluntary departure unless you have no defense to removal such as asylum,
withholding, NACARA, Cancellation of Removal or a pending family petition.

Read more here;

http://www.firrp.org/media/VoluntaryDeparture-en.pdf

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Wed 01/30/13 03:30 PM
The sticking point of immigration reform is what to do with young adults who were small children when they accompanied their parents to the USA. Those children didn't have a choice when it came to moving with their parents.

A significantly large number of those young adults have become de facto naturalized citizens because they are fluent in English and are full participants in the culture of the USA. Plenty of them have no memory of the culture in which they were born.

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Wed 01/30/13 03:55 PM

The sticking point of immigration reform is what to do with young adults who were small children when they accompanied their parents to the USA. Those children didn't have a choice when it came to moving with their parents.

A significantly large number of those young adults have become de facto naturalized citizens because they are fluent in English and are full participants in the culture of the USA. Plenty of them have no memory of the culture in which they were born.

True enough.

Although, they are not and have always known, there could come a time where they would be repatriated to their respective countries. Kids or no, they are not naturalized.

Their Illegal parents need to be deported and the kids given temporary permission to finish school, become legal age and apply while they are here for legal residency. While they are still minors, they could realistically be, put in foster care or taken back with the parents.

If, they are Illegal with an Anchor Brat, they can do like I'm doing with a deported Mama's kid.

I will have, come this Thursday night, Power of Attorney in respect to the Anchor Brat. He has 4 years of school left.

He will be with me during the week and I will ship his a$$ to his beautiful Mama on Friday night til Sunday afternoon.

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Wed 01/30/13 04:18 PM

The sticking point of immigration reform is what to do with young adults who were small children when they accompanied their parents to the USA. Those children didn't have a choice when it came to moving with their parents.

A significantly large number of those young adults have become de facto naturalized citizens because they are fluent in English and are full participants in the culture of the USA. Plenty of them have no memory of the culture in which they were born.


This sounds like something right out of the LIBERAL playbook of talking points.

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Wed 01/30/13 04:20 PM

One guess what party Illegals swing with?


Liberals. All liberals are supporting their agenda by supporting oBamby and Dems.
Ya'll asked for it. Now it's happening.
Like Barry told ya'll,


WRONG! The Republicans are pushing the agenda and for one reason....to get more hispanic votes.

Why are ya'll sticking your heads in the sand on this issue?

The only Republican I have heard speak up so far against this is Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

willing2's photo
Wed 01/30/13 04:31 PM


One guess what party Illegals swing with?


Liberals. All liberals are supporting their agenda by supporting oBamby and Dems.
Ya'll asked for it. Now it's happening.
Like Barry told ya'll,


WRONG! The Republicans are pushing the agenda and for one reason....to get more hispanic votes.

Why are ya'll sticking your heads in the sand on this issue?

The only Republican I have heard speak up so far against this is Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

I, for one of many, don't give a rat's a$$ what any politician is doing for their own political gain.

Hussein is pushing it for the Demncraps instead of enforcing existing Immigration Law.

Listen up ya'll. The Immigration Law ain't broke. Don't need fixin'. Just needs enforcin'.

DHS would love to do their jobs. Hussein and Nappytailino has tied their hands and won't let them gather them up. Say YAY for Hussein now.

States would love to help round up they dead a$$es but, Hussein and Holder sue all of 'em that tries to.

Half a dozen or more states have already chased a bunch of 'em out with Anti-Illegal Immigrant laws.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 01/30/13 05:07 PM


The sticking point of immigration reform is what to do with young adults who were small children when they accompanied their parents to the USA. Those children didn't have a choice when it came to moving with their parents.

A significantly large number of those young adults have become de facto naturalized citizens because they are fluent in English and are full participants in the culture of the USA. Plenty of them have no memory of the culture in which they were born.


This sounds like something right out of the LIBERAL playbook of talking points.


Uh, no. It is an observation of reality.

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Thu 01/31/13 04:14 AM
De Factis, Illegals are felons. Just like bank robbers, there is no statute of limitations on their crime.

They remain felons.

What would happen to you or me if we got investigated then busted for having and using stolen identifications and SSNs?

Why should one group be exempted from the law?

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Thu 01/31/13 05:26 AM


The sticking point of immigration reform is what to do with young adults who were small children when they accompanied their parents to the USA. Those children didn't have a choice when it came to moving with their parents.

A significantly large number of those young adults have become de facto naturalized citizens because they are fluent in English and are full participants in the culture of the USA. Plenty of them have no memory of the culture in which they were born.


This sounds like something right out of the LIBERAL playbook of talking points.
nope,just simple common-sense!

willing2's photo
Thu 01/31/13 06:17 AM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 01/31/13 06:17 AM
Amnesty is just Barry's way of paying back to his voter base and supporting Corporate America.

Don't ya'll just love how Hussein and Corporations are so concerned about putting Americans to work?

msharmony's photo
Thu 01/31/13 06:19 AM
Yeah, I love how unemployment is coming back down

and glad that SOMETHING Is being done rather than the nothing this past congress has gotten so wonderful at accomplishing

to move forward, you first have to MOVE

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Thu 01/31/13 07:47 AM

Amnesty is just Barry's way of paying back to his voter base and supporting Corporate America.

Don't ya'll just love how Hussein and Corporations are so concerned about putting Americans to work?


I blame the Republicans for what is about to happen. Here is what Republican Senator John McCain (R) Arizona said in a speech Monday January 28, Before President Obama spoke:

“What is going on now is not acceptable. In reality, what has been created is a defacto-amnesty. We, the American people, have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve us food, clean our homes and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great."