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Topic: Not man enough? Buy a gun
oldhippie1952 Joined Mon 03/14/11 Posts: 22693	Fri 12/21/12 12:54 PM
Don't be afraid willow, it is just a rock.

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 01:00 PM
And although rocks do kill on their own, kinda, when we have them fall down our mountains here they take out a few people sometimes. Guns are mechanical and prone to misfire and accidentally being set off so they do kill on their own too. The killing power of these weapons is way beyond what is needed for a hunting trip. Again, the government couldn't care less about the gun owners having guns because it is not threat to it at all, not even slightly. It is us, we the caring people of this country who have an issue with 20 six year olds being mowed down in the classroom and all those who will suffer all their lives now from surviving this. If the shooter had had a rock things would have been different.

CeriseRose Joined Mon 08/02/10 Posts: 6220	Fri 12/21/12 01:22 PM
And although rocks do kill on their own, kinda, when we have them fall down our mountains here they take out a few people sometimes. Guns are mechanical and prone to misfire and accidentally being set off so they do kill on their own too. The killing power of these weapons is way beyond what is needed for a hunting trip. Again, the government couldn't care less about the gun owners having guns because it is not threat to it at all, not even slightly. It is us, we the caring people of this country who have an issue with 20 six year olds being mowed down in the classroom and all those who will suffer all their lives now from surviving this. If the shooter had had a rock things would have been different. Why do you assume that the citizens want to arm themselves against the government? And why have you surrendered your will and allegiance to the total power of the government? Have you resolved to give the government full control and lethel power over you and your loved ones? Do you feel that you/we are already under arrest by our government? And do you think that is a good thing?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 12/21/12 01:32 PM
As a veteran I have not touched a weapon in over 30 years, I don't feel the need for one. However; with the massive hysteria going on, I will probably have to buy one. If I fear anything it is the government, taking away my rights as a lawful peaceful citizen. Then we have tyranny. When the people fear the government.... and we still have some liberty Because the government apparently fears the people.... They want to take our guns away. Its a face off. LOL silly for real The government couldn't care less about little private gun owners. Their firepower is way beyond the automatic pea shooters that the private citizens have. If the little gun owners rise up, the government can take them out of their misery in one fell humane swoop. For real. It is us citizens who are tired of the right of fearful shooters over riding the right to not be shot by them. Yes I know we have a horribly powerful Military Complex who has the ability to kill us all. ooooh so very scary. And if we cause them any trouble at all they will just drop some drone on us. Is this the government you really want to support? You said: "The government couldn't care less about little private gun owners." This is where you are wrong. Yes, the all powerful government can kill us all. But where would they be without the support of the people? NO WHERE. So rather than kill us all with their powerful drones and weapons they would much rather exploit (or arrange) for some crazy lone gunman to shoot a bunch of innocent children in order to gain the public's support for gun control. And exploit it they are doing. They don't want to have to shoot people, that would make them look like the bad guys, but they want to control them with their permission. They want as peaceful a take over as possible. To do that, they will convince the public that gun control will solve the all their problems. You fell for it right off the bat. Other bleeding hearts will too. But in the end it will be an executive order because the majority of the people will not fall for the B.S.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 12/21/12 01:40 PM
It is us, we the caring people of this country who have an issue with 20 six year olds being mowed down in the classroom and all those who will suffer all their lives now from surviving this. If the shooter had had a rock things would have been different. So you dare to think that no one but you (and a few other traumatized people) care about children being killed? You are traumatized. You think this problem can be solved by more laws. You are misled and manipulated and traumatized. And you lie to yourself that you are not afraid. If you are not traumatized or afraid, then what is your point? What are you trying to accomplish? Do you seriously think that gun banning or control will solve all these kinds of problems? Or are you being manipulated to support the governments agenda to disarm the public? Give it up. You can't fix this. What did you say to the government when they killed 26 Children at Waco Texas? Probably that those people deserved it for not complying with the government.

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 01:41 PM
And although rocks do kill on their own, kinda, when we have them fall down our mountains here they take out a few people sometimes. Guns are mechanical and prone to misfire and accidentally being set off so they do kill on their own too. The killing power of these weapons is way beyond what is needed for a hunting trip. Again, the government couldn't care less about the gun owners having guns because it is not threat to it at all, not even slightly. It is us, we the caring people of this country who have an issue with 20 six year olds being mowed down in the classroom and all those who will suffer all their lives now from surviving this. If the shooter had had a rock things would have been different. Why do you assume that the citizens want to arm themselves against the government? And why have you surrendered your will and allegiance to the total power of the government? Have you resolved to give the government full control and lethel power over you and your loved ones? Do you feel that you/we are already under arrest by our government? And do you think that is a good thing? I didn't assume, that is what was said. I didn't have to surrender anything, I looked at the reality and acknowledged it. The reality is that our governments firepower is way beyond even a bunch of citizens firepower. The citizens will lose if they go up against the government at that level. Now fighting in our government is done intellectually and people do win that way. My resolve is to accept that which cannot be changed. Their lethal power over me is beyond any gun if I would so engage them with one. No, I am a participant in my government. I make my voice heard in my government. I and others make things happen in my government by engaging them intellectually. Good or not it isn't even a discussion to have anymore. The playing field is no longer even when it comes to guns.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 12/21/12 01:47 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people.

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 01:47 PM
It is us, we the caring people of this country who have an issue with 20 six year olds being mowed down in the classroom and all those who will suffer all their lives now from surviving this. If the shooter had had a rock things would have been different. So you dare to think that no one but you (and a few other traumatized people) care about children being killed? You are traumatized. You think this problem can be solved by more laws. You are misled and manipulated and traumatized. And you lie to yourself that you are not afraid. If you are not traumatized or afraid, then what is your point? What are you trying to accomplish? Do you seriously think that gun banning or control will solve all these kinds of problems? Or are you being manipulated to support the governments agenda to disarm the public? Give it up. You can't fix this. What did you say to the government when they killed 26 Children at Waco Texas? Probably that those people deserved it for not complying with the government. Again the government couldn't care less about the guns that private owners have. They are way beyond that in their capability of controlling those situations. Waco actually taught me through the loss of the poor disillusioned people, what it means to come up against this government with firearms. It is not the way to go about change now. It might have worked when the weapons were equal but not anymore. Now you have to use your brain in dealing with conflict with the government. I accept what is reality and reality here is that we have some issues with guns that need to be taken care of. And yes some may not be able to have them and they definitely shouldn't have assault weapons. Some will sacrifice for the children even if the children are not theirs.

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 01:50 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people. None of which means we cannot handle our gun problems here and save some innocent people.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 12/21/12 01:57 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 12/21/12 02:01 PM
Again the government couldn't care less about the guns that private owners have. What do you know of what "the government couldn't care less about"? They are way beyond that in their capability of controlling those situations. So what if they are? Does that mean you just give up and let them completely control you and tell you what to do? Does that mean you are willing to give up your rights and freedom? Waco actually taught me through the loss of the poor disillusioned people, what it means to come up against this government with firearms. For your information, the people at WACO were not bothering "the government." They were simply refusing to be controlled. They were attacked by the government. It is not the way to go about change now. It might have worked when the weapons were equal but not anymore. Now you have to use your brain in dealing with conflict with the government. The victims of genocide at the hands of the Turks in Turkey were very well educated Christian people. Their brains didn't help them. You have already given up your freedom. Good luck with that. I hope to God there are not a lot of people like you who are willing to hand over your freedom to the government. Our freedom that our forefathers fought and died for.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 12/21/12 01:59 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 12/21/12 02:02 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people. None of which means we cannot handle our gun problems here and save some innocent people. You just don't get it. The people taken away to death camps in Germany were innocent people. The Armenians slaughtered, tortured, etc. were innocent people. The difference: They had no way to protect their rights. They had no guns at all. You just don't get it.

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Fri 12/21/12 02:12 PM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 12/21/12 02:15 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people. None of which means we cannot handle our gun problems here and save some innocent people. They outlawed guns in Mexico so Obozo and Holder made sure the mexican cartels were able to get them .... go live in one of the border towns now for even a week, then come back and preach gun control!

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 15205	Fri 12/21/12 02:16 PM
Manly men don't need a gun for any reason at all. They are man enough to know that. manly or not, i'll keep mine... I think it is Ok for any Mentally Stable, Responsible man to have a gun legally. My ex husband had one, and so did my ex boyfriend and my Dad had a Rifle way back in the Mid 1900's.

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Fri 12/21/12 02:27 PM
As a veteran I have not touched a weapon in over 30 years, I don't feel the need for one. However; with the massive hysteria going on, I will probably have to buy one. If I fear anything it is the government, taking away my rights as a lawful peaceful citizen. Then we have tyranny. When the people fear the government.... and we still have some liberty Because the government apparently fears the people.... They want to take our guns away. Its a face off. Well, me and my peashooter will have our day before they pry it from my dead freedom loving hands. No prying will be done cause you and weapon will be one in eternity with the weapon the government can use to silence you. That is how it is now. In order for the playing field to have remained the way the forefathers supposedly wanted with the 2nd amendment the weapons held by the armies of the government would have had to remain the same as those held by the people. It is not that way anymore. Arming yourself in fear of the government is almost silly now. Tell that to the Vietnamese

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 02:32 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people. None of which means we cannot handle our gun problems here and save some innocent people. They outlawed guns in Mexico so Obozo and Holder made sure the mexican cartels were able to get them .... go live in one of the border towns now for even a week, then come back and preach gun control! Same words still apply.

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 02:36 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people. None of which means we cannot handle our gun problems here and save some innocent people. You just don't get it. The people taken away to death camps in Germany were innocent people. The Armenians slaughtered, tortured, etc. were innocent people. The difference: They had no way to protect their rights. They had no guns at all. You just don't get it. No you don't get it. The government here has the capability to do that with you having your little pea shooter automatic assault weapon. The fact that they won't doesn't have a damn thing to do with you or your friends having a gun. It is because those like myself vote and work with the government to make sure it is the best government it can be. So you can hug your rifle but it won't save you unless you blow your own brains out.

CeriseRose Joined Mon 08/02/10 Posts: 6220	Fri 12/21/12 02:41 PM Edited by CeriseRose on Fri 12/21/12 02:45 PM
And although rocks do kill on their own, kinda, when we have them fall down our mountains here they take out a few people sometimes. Guns are mechanical and prone to misfire and accidentally being set off so they do kill on their own too. The killing power of these weapons is way beyond what is needed for a hunting trip. Again, the government couldn't care less about the gun owners having guns because it is not threat to it at all, not even slightly. It is us, we the caring people of this country who have an issue with 20 six year olds being mowed down in the classroom and all those who will suffer all their lives now from surviving this. If the shooter had had a rock things would have been different. The shooter/shooters were predators...our schools were unguarded. This was not a gun-laws problem. In regards to the loss of those 20 precious children and their teachers/principal... I believe the parents and grandparents should form a school-watch program. A friend of mine was very disturbed that the school seemed to be surrounded by a wooded area... and that it was set back in that wooded area away from the thoroughfare...with one long road that led up to the school. Perhaps schools set up that way should be particularly watched. I myself have not seen the diagram of the school. But if I were driving past my child's school I'd have comfort to know I could, without binoculars, glance at my child's school and see that there was no suspicious-looking characters walking around the grounds.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 12/21/12 02:48 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people. None of which means we cannot handle our gun problems here and save some innocent people. You just don't get it. The people taken away to death camps in Germany were innocent people. The Armenians slaughtered, tortured, etc. were innocent people. The difference: They had no way to protect their rights. They had no guns at all. You just don't get it. No you don't get it. The government here has the capability to do that with you having your little pea shooter automatic assault weapon. The fact that they won't doesn't have a damn thing to do with you or your friends having a gun. It is because those like myself vote and work with the government to make sure it is the best government it can be. So you can hug your rifle but it won't save you unless you blow your own brains out. Won't save me from who? Sounds like you are actually threatening me in the name of the "government" that you work for.

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 02:49 PM
Oh but it is a gun control problem...

willowdraga Joined Sat 10/13/12 Posts: 957	Fri 12/21/12 02:53 PM
In Germany, when the government began arresting Jews, there were people who did not think that was right. Those who resisted or tried to protect or save the Jewish people were also arrested and sent to death camps. Do you think they had guns? Of course not. And you seriously think that can never happen here in America? I'm not saying it will, but why give up our guns? In Turkey, millions of well educated Christian Armenians were forced to hand over their guns. The Turks took them. Then they began slaughtering millions. It was genocide. These were nice and well educated decent people. None of which means we cannot handle our gun problems here and save some innocent people. You just don't get it. The people taken away to death camps in Germany were innocent people. The Armenians slaughtered, tortured, etc. were innocent people. The difference: They had no way to protect their rights. They had no guns at all. You just don't get it. No you don't get it. The government here has the capability to do that with you having your little pea shooter automatic assault weapon. The fact that they won't doesn't have a damn thing to do with you or your friends having a gun. It is because those like myself vote and work with the government to make sure it is the best government it can be. So you can hug your rifle but it won't save you unless you blow your own brains out. Won't save me from who? Sounds like you are actually threatening me in the name of the "government" that you work for. It won't save you from what you fear.....since that can already happen with you have an armory of guns.. If our government went bad, you and all the other gun owners who went against them would be screwed. It is a fact their firepower is way out of gun owners league of defense, And it is stupid to keep talking about it. The issue we have here is that the children in this country are owed more safety from legal guns that mow them down in class.