Jsimp4, realist news video:

Don't let the Government tell you that you must get shots.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtRzZ4JAXz0&feature=plcp

The problem is that sometimes the antibodies are not formed with the vaccination. That doesn't mean the vaccination is a bad idea.

Primary vaccine failure (where the vaccine itself fails to produce antibodies). There is evidence (9592852 PMID) that some strains of the vaccine are better at creating an immune response than others. Unfortunately, even vaccine strains with a better rate of conferring measurable immunity are not protecting populations from outbreaks of the mumps disease. For instance in the USA the Jeryl Lynn strain has been in widespread use since 1967 and enjoys favorable evidence of efficacy from the initial studies done. However, this is not being translated into the same level of efficacy in the population at large, with an estimated efficacy of 61.6%.

Other vaccine strains such as the Japanese Urabe Am9 or the Russian Leningrad-3, neither of which are used in the USA, show a better rate of conferring immunity. However, they also show (10707922 PMID) a higher incidence of aseptic meningitis post vaccination. For a full breakdown on which strains are used in which parts of the world look here .

The two dose vaccine strategy is failing with regard to mumps and has been identified as not being effective for the mumps portion of the MMR

Two-dose vaccine effectiveness was 76–88% with no significant difference for attack rates between one and two doses.

Secondary vaccine failure (where the immunity initially derived from the vaccine wanes, requiring boosters). There are calls for a booster shot for college entry students in an attempt to catch any issues of waning immunity. The data on waning immunity is far from conclusive. The difference between vaccine-acquired immunity and immunity from exposure to the wild virus is complex. The measure of immunity used in science (antibody titres) is not always predictive of whether a person will develop an illness or not. The shift in the age group who are sick with mumps suggests waning immunity, with 19-24 year olds now most likely to contract mumps. The cause for this waning immunity is not well understood, with the possibility that a reduction in circulation of the virus could result in a reduction in the natural ‘boosting’ effect when there is already immunity to mumps virus.

“It might not be cost effective to give everyone a third shot, but it should be considered for college students, said Dr. Stephen Marcella, an epidemiologist at University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey’s School of Public Health.”

There is increasing pressure on college-aged young adults to produce proof of vaccination, when this is not necessarily the most predictive factor when it comes to immunity.

It also issued lists of affected students to professors, directing them to send the students home if they came to class. Officials said the students could be escorted off campus by the university police. “The students are essentially banned from campus until they show they have received the immunizations,” said Robert S. Caswell, the university’s director of public relations. (NYT)

Guess it is no different then getting a flu shot for some it will help them from getting it some it will not..

Even though I get a flu shot every year I still get the flu. But... the one year I did not get it I had the worst case of the flu I have ever had took me almost three months to get completely well...

I would never say that a immunization against anything should not be taken... Everyone takes a chance that immunizations may not work the same on each person...

Basics and Common Questions:
Why Immunize?
For Parents

Why immunize our children? Sometimes we are confused by the messages in the media. First we are assured that, thanks to vaccines, some diseases are almost gone from the U.S. But we are also warned to immunize our children, ourselves as adults, and the elderly.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/why.htm

Bottom line, IMHO is that government, colleges, schools, employers should be sued for trying to force people to put unknown substances into thier bodies via a needle.

If you watch the video all the way through you would see where neither the doctor or the nurse could tell him what was actually in the vaccination. Then when he declined the shots, they sent him a letter telling him he should find another doctor.

That seems really strange and rude.

The human body, I believe, is more capable of fending off disease than immunizing.

Did you watch the video?

a large percentage of the cases were people who had been immunized and most of them had been immunized twice.

Also, the number of cases was unusually high compared to normal. I think the shots actually caused the disease. If that can't be believed, then the facts speak for themselves, that the shots did nothing to prevent the disease. This was true for mumps and measles.

I never get flu shots. Last week I did get a mild case of the current flu going around and I had all the symptoms listed, but it was real mild and with some vitiman C and rest, it was gone in three days. It was said to last for about a week.

The best thing to do is to eat well and improve your immune system and that means to avoid drugs that destroy it. The strongest drugs I ever take are aspirin and Advil.

Measles Resurgence Tied To Parents' Vaccine Fears



by Richard Knox


April 5, 2010

A generation ago, up to 4 million U.S. children got measles every year. Hundreds died, and thousands were left with permanent brain damage. Thanks to vaccination, those days are over, at least in this hemisphere. But health officials worry about the growing number of children who are vulnerable when somebody brings measles from another part of the world.

It happens regularly. Vancouver is trying to contain a measles outbreak sparked when foreign travelers visited for the Olympics, carrying two different measles viruses from Asia.

The first recognized infections — in two Canadians and a visiting American — occurred around the Olympic closing ceremonies. "Downtown Vancouver was shoulder-to-shoulder on many days of that period," notes Dr. Monika Naus of the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control.

So far, measles has spread to 16 people in Vancouver, Naus says. Half of them are in one large unvaccinated household. The parents reject vaccination.

"It's not a religious issue," Naus says. "A friend of the family who had anti-vaccination sentiments was influential in convincing them not to get vaccinated."

Many parents who refuse to get their children vaccinated worry that vaccines — and the one for measles, mumps and rubella in particular — cause autism. It's a belief that persists despite years of studies and expert panels that find no scientific link.

Health officials say there are growing pockets of vaccine refusers in communities across the land. The numbers are not great. But these pockets of "intentionally unvaccinated" children give the virus more opportunities to spread when it does arrive.

And even if the number of measles cases in each outbreak is kept small, the arrival of measles disrupts lives and forces public health officials into high gear to contain the damage.

Ask Karen Waters-Montijo, chief of immunization at the San Diego County health agency. She and her colleagues, including officials at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, write about the impact of a 2008 measles outbreak in the April issue of the journal Pediatrics.

Waters remembers the February day when a public health nurse called to report a confirmed case of measles: a 7-year-old boy who had picked up the virus during a family trip to Switzerland.

As unlikely as it seems, Switzerland is one of those European countries where measles vaccination rates have fallen considerably below 95 percent — the level public health officials say is necessary to prevent measles from circulating in the community.

When Waters heard about the case, she says, "I just about fell off my chair. The child had two siblings, attended public school. The family wasn't vaccinated. And in fact, there were a lot of unvaccinated children at the school, as well."

They were "intentionally unvaccinated," meaning their parents had filed Personal Beliefs Exemption forms to opt out of the vaccinations that are required for schoolchildren. Parents of almost 10 percent of the students at Patient Zero's school had signed PBE forms.

That may not sound like much. But no virus is more contagious than measles. "If a measles-infected person walks into a room with 10 uninfected people," says Dr. David Sugerman of the CDC, "nine of them will get infected."

Moreover, anyone who goes into that room within the next two hours after the infected person has left is likely to get measles, too.

So Waters and her colleagues were alarmed when they learned that it had taken a week before the measles infection of Patient Zero was diagnosed. In the meantime, he had exposed many people in doctors offices and clinic waiting rooms, as well as in school. He had also infected his siblings, and they had exposed many others.

"It was slow to be recognized, and there's a good reason for that," Waters says. "We hardly ever see any measles cases. Most doctors have never seen a case." Once the first patient was diagnosed, moreover, health authorities were slow to be notified.

Once they found out, health authorities kicked into gear, tracing everybody who came into contact with the first cases — and everybody who was in contact with them. That net captured people who got exposed (and, in some instances, infected) at supermarkets, circus performances, fairgrounds and a Hawaii-bound airplane.

It added up to 839 people. Of those, 73 were unvaccinated children — 25 whose parents chose not to get them vaccinated, and 48 children under 12 months who were too young to be vaccinated.

To limit the spread of the virus, San Diego County officials asked parents of those 73 children to keep them at home. Many of them were pretty unhappy about that.

"Imagine, you start off on a normal day," Waters says, "and you're getting ready to drop your child off at their child care place, and you're greeted by a public health nurse who says your child has been exposed to measles, and we'd like you to go home and be there for the next three weeks while we monitor you for symptoms."

Parents of exposed children who believed in vaccination were incredulous and angry, she says: "They said, 'What do you mean, people don't get vaccinated? Why is this happening?' "

In the end, the San Diego outbreak was confined to a dozen children. No big deal, you might think — except that it upended a lot of lives, and the county spent $10,000 for each of those cases in order to keep the virus from spreading more widely. That, and the fact that more than 95 percent of the general population was immune, kept the outbreak far more limited than the previous San Diego measles outbreak in 1991, when there were 1,000 cases and three deaths.

Afterward, Waters and her colleagues looked into who the vaccine refusers were and what their attitudes toward vaccination were.

They're college educated, higher-income and believers in the power of a "natural" lifestyle — things like organic food and prolonged breast-feeding — to keep their children's immunity strong enough to ward off vaccine-preventable diseases.

And they just don't believe it when government officials like Karen Waters say vaccines don't cause autism.

"It is wrapped up in their attitudes about government," Waters says. "I don't think they think I'm the enemy. I think they think I'm well-intended but misinformed."

Many communities have pockets of vaccine refusers. So the United States and other countries with growing numbers of "intentionally unvaccinated" people are likely to see more outbreaks.

There's bound to be occasional importation of measles from countries with circulating virus. These aren't only developing nations; they include Ireland, Germany, Israel, Japan and the United Kingdom, where measles had been eliminated until large numbers of parents started opting out of vaccination programs.

CDC officials are watching the Vancouver outbreak closely, as neighboring Washington state has sizable populations of vaccine refusers.

"If measles crossed the border into those populations, there's a potential for a sizable outbreak," says Dr. Jane Seward of the CDC.

Back in San Diego, Karen Waters is still trying to persuade skeptical parents to get their children vaccinated. She says refusers are not bad guys in this drama.

"You know, these are very nice people," she says. "They care a lot about children, as I do. We all want safe vaccines. We all want healthy children, and we all want answers about autism. It's unfortunate there's a group of people who are off on this track, that believe vaccines are at the root of this problem."

So far Waters hasn't changed many minds. She knows of a thousand families who have refused to get their kindergartners vaccinated. That's 100 more since that last San Diego measles outbreak.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125570056

If there is any chance that vaccination can cause autism in certain children, people should not EVER be forced to be injected.

The fact remains that some children did develop autism after being vaccinated, therefore that has made a believer out of the parents.

Do vaccines contain mercury?


FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury

(NaturalNews) It is a common myth today that the vaccines administered to children no longer contain the toxic additive thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative linked to causing permanent neurological damage. But a recent federal case involving the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has revealed that, contrary to this widely-held belief, thimerosal is actually still present in many batch vaccines, including in the annual influenza vaccine that is now administered to children as young as six months old.

Filed by a citizen-backed coalition advocating vaccine safety, the lawsuit against the FDA alleged that the agency's continued endorsement and approval of thimerosal as a vaccine additive is a serious public health threat, especially since safer alternatives already exist and are widely used voluntarily by many vaccine manufacturers. But Judge Brett Kavanaugh, siding with antiquated pseudoscience, decided that thimerosal is not a health threat, and that those who wish to avoid it can simply choose thimerosal-free alternatives.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html#ixzz2EbcczinR

"Mercury Free" Vaccines Still Have Mercury In Them

Excipients are substances used in the production of vaccines which are not actual added ingredients in the vaccine.

These excipients, including mercury, remain in trace amounts in the vaccine.

There is NO safe level of mercury or it's derivative, thimerosal.

Currently, according to the CDC, the following vaccines which are marketed as mercury free, actually do have mercury in them (less than 3mcgs per vaccine, but still dangerous to human health).

DTaP (Tripedia)

DTaP/HIB (TriHIBit)

DT (Sanofi)

Hep B (Engerix-B)

Hep A/Hep B (Twinrix)

Influenza (Fluarix, Flulaval, Fluvirin and Fluzone brands)

Japanese Encephalitis (JE-Vax)

Meningococcal (Menomune)

DT (Decavac)

DT (Massachusetts)


There will be additional vaccines not on this list which are available in the UK which also contain trace amounts of thimerosal and are marketed as 'thimerosal free'.

If you are considering vaccination, go to your local pharmacy and ask for the manufacturer's data sheet for the vaccines your child may have. Then telephone the manufacturer and ask them to email you a list of vaccine excipients.

They have done this when I asked. That way you will know if your child's vaccine is really mercury free or not.

To see the CDC's information, go here:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

From the CDC

Myths and misinformation about vaccine safety can confuse parents who are trying to make sound decisions about their children's health care.

Vaccination is a common, memorable event, and association of events in time often signals cause and effect. While some of the sickness or reactions that follow vaccination may be caused by the vaccine, many are unrelated events that occur by coincidence after vaccination. Therefore, the scientific research that attempts to distinguish true vaccine adverse events from unrelated, chance occurrence is important.

Is thimerosal safe?

Thimerosal has a proven track record of being very safe. Data from many studies show no convincing evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines.

Does thimerosal cause autism?

Research does not show any link between thimerosal in vaccines and autism, a neurodevelopmental disorder. Although thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in 2001, autism rates have gone up, which is the opposite of what would be expected if thimerosal caused autism.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/Thimerosal/thimerosal_faqs.html

its a personal issue really

parents are free to sign waivers if they dont wish to give their children immunization with the realization that our environment is not quite the same as it once was and we may not have naturally developed the protection against everything we are now exposed to


immunization of children for protection, imho, is like spanking for discipline

a parents personal perogative

That is because thimersoal WAS NOT TAKEN OUT OF CHILDHOOD VACCINES. Read my post. FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury

I agree that no one should be required under threat of being fired or being expelled from college to have an unknown substance injected into your body.

YUCK.

And as the video I posted states, IT JUST DOES NOT SEEM TO BE WORKING ANYWAY SO WHY TAKE THE RISK?