Topic: Chinese 'maternity hotel' sparks outrage in California subur
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Thu 12/06/12 07:16 PM
CHINO HILLS, Calif. – Residents of a Southern California suburb are protesting against a hilltop home that they say serves as a maternity center for Chinese mothers paying thousands of dollars to give birth to so-called "anchor babies."

Dozens picketed a Chino Hills intersection on Saturday, holding signs that read "No Birth Tourism" and "Not Here! Not in USA!"

The city's mayor tells the San Bernardino Sun that rooms in the house have been rented out to pregnant Chinese women until they give birth.

Protesters say they don't want to see a business in a residential area.

Kelly Good tells the Sun the come legally on tourist visas, but their intention is to give birth in the United States so their children would automatically gain citizenship. She said that's a "false pretense."

Chino Hills resident Karol Arredondo tells the Sun every so often a tour bus comes and takes groups of pregnant Chinese women to nearby tourist destinations, such as Disneyland and Venice Beach.

City officials say they are handling code enforcement issues at the property, but not dealing with the alleged maternity operation.



willowdraga's photo
Thu 12/06/12 07:19 PM
Stupid people....

They obviously need a real life so they aren't making up **** about others lives that they need to worry about so much

Bravalady's photo
Thu 12/06/12 07:24 PM
Yeah, I was skeptical of this story when it came out. It could be true, or maybe not, I sure don't know. I haven't seen any followup to it in the last few weeks.

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/06/12 09:26 PM
with technology and travel having evolved so much since the constitution, I am sure the birthright citizenship will be revised eventually to more reasonable terms,,,,

Bravalady's photo
Fri 12/07/12 01:28 PM
What kind of revision do you think would be reasonable?

willing2's photo
Fri 12/07/12 01:35 PM
Reasonable would be;

Deport the Illegal parent/s.

If one of the parents is a citizen;
Prosecute the parent that harbored, aided and abetted the Illegal. Hefty fine and at least a year of community service.

The child to go to the parent ordered by a court.

If, the anchor-brat is awarded citizenship and goes back to the offenders country with the Illegal offender, at the time of legal age, the child could have every right to reenter the States.

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/07/12 02:00 PM

What kind of revision do you think would be reasonable?


I think one parent must already be a legal resident or citizen,, NOT MERELY A VISITOR,,,



Bravalady's photo
Fri 12/07/12 10:41 PM
I spent some time looking this up (my idea of fun, LOL). What we have now is called jus soli (the right of the soil) and is used in pretty much all the countries of the Western Hemisphere. Most of the rest of the world uses what you suggested, which is called jus sanguinis (the right of blood). The reason for the difference seems to be that countries that have experienced a lot of immigration in the past tend to have jus soli. However, there's a trend toward jus sanguinis. It seems reasonable enough, but I think it would increase the demand for naturalization, and there's a huge backlog as it is. Anyway, I can't imagine it would change anytime soon.

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Sat 12/08/12 09:31 AM
more info:

In a number of countries, to discourage illegal immigration, automatic birthright citizenship has been repealed by imposing additional requirements (such as requiring that at least one of the parents be a legal permanent resident or that the parent have resided in the country for a specific period of time).[8] As a result, the children of immigrants do not have automatic citizenship conferred upon their birth. Modification of jus soli has been criticized as contributing to economic inequality, the perpetuation of unfree labour from a helot underclass,[5] and statelessness. Jus soli has been changed in the following countries:[20]


Australia:[5] Australian nationality law was changed on 20 August 1986 so that a person born in Australia acquires Australian citizenship by birth only if at least one parent was an Australian citizen or permanent resident or upon the 10th birthday of the child born in Australia regardless of their parent's citizenship status (see Australian nationality law).


Dominican Republic: The constitution was amended on 26 January 2010 to exclude most Dominicans of Haitian origin from citizenship, even those previously recognized by the Dominican state. The new constitution broadened the definition of the 2004 migration law to exclude individuals that were "in transit" to include "non-residents" (including individuals with expired residency visas and undocumented workers).[21][22]


France: Children born in France (including overseas territories) to at least one parent who is also born in France automatically acquire French citizenship at birth. Children born to foreign parents may request citizenship depending on their age and length of residence (see French nationality law).


Germany: An exception to the increasing restrictiveness toward birthright citizenship, Germany, prior to 2000, had its nationality law based entirely on jus sanguinis. Now, children born on or after 1 January 2000 to non-German parents acquire German citizenship at birth if at least one parent has a permanent residence permit (and had this status for at least three years) and the parent was residing in Germany for at least eight years.


Iran: Article 976(4) of the Civil Code of Iran grants citizenship at birth to persons born in Iran of foreign parents if one or both of the parents were themselves born in Iran. See Iranian nationality law.[23]


Ireland: On 1 January 2005, the law was amended to require that at at least one of the parents be an Irish citizen; a British citizen; a child of a resident with a permanent right to reside in Ireland; or be a child of a legal resident residing three of the last four years in the country (excluding students and asylum seekers)(see Irish nationality law).[5]


New Zealand:[5] The law was changed on 1 January 2006 to require at least one of the parents to be a New Zealand citizen or permanent resident to confer citizenship (see New Zealand nationality law)[24]


South Africa:[5] Children born in South Africa to South African citizens or permanent residents are automatically granted South African citizenship since 6 October 1995 (see South African nationality law).


Thailand: Thailand operated a system of pure jus soli prior to 1972, but afterwards, due to illegal immigration from Burma, the Nationality Act was amended to require that both parents be legally resident and domiciled in Thailand for at least five years in order for their child to be granted Thai citizenship at birth.[25][26] Furthermore, someone who has Thai citizenship by sole virtue of jus soli may be stripped of Thai citizenship under various conditions (such as living abroad) which do not apply to people who have Thai citizenship by virtue of jus sanguinis.[27]


United Kingdom: since 1 January 1983, at least one parent must be a British citizen or be legally "settled" in the country (see British nationality law)).


Barbados:The Barbados Ministry of Labour & Immigration recently proposed ending automatic birthright citizenship, noting in a recent report: "It is the Department's view that the legislation should be amended to stipulate that (as in the United Kingdom and the Bahamas) children born in Barbados will not be deemed to be citizens of Barbados, unless at least one parent at the time of the birth, has permanent status in Barbados. In addition persons born in Barbados should not be deemed to be citizens where the parents are residing illegally in Barbados."[28]


Antigua and Barbuda: Similarly, an official from Antigua and Barbuda told the Center for Immigration Studies that the country's current effort to tighten immigration policies may include an end to automatic birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants.[



I think we are on the path to revising our laws BECAUSE There are so many people trying to sneak in and we have such a cyber world that there are more and more people hearing about how they can have children with 'american' benefits just by managing to get here before giving birth,,,