Topic: holymorals.
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Sat 12/08/12 11:55 PM




Sad thing is, Some people are immoral and they just don't care if they are.


Who decides what immoral is for everyone?



immoral doesnt change , although individuals idea of 'what' is immoral does

if its immoral for one,, its immoral for EVERYONE, morality isnt based upon the person committing the act, but the act itself

I concur


I don't because the question was who gets to decide what acts are immoral? I make that choice for myself ...I might think that smoking cigarettes is immoral because you are knowingly and willingly causing damage to your body and possibly to others. but that does not mean I am right. morals are belief systems not facts. To the degree that they are relativistic in our culture in the west is driven in part by secular law and in part by judeo christian tradition and in part by human psychology (things we know to be right or wrong based on principals of mental and physical health and healthy human development)

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Sun 12/09/12 12:25 AM
I would not date someone who is married or seperated. I believe after their divorce they need time to live and be single and to find out who they really are. I always believe that you should get rid of the old luggage before you bring in the new. FIX YOUR OLD RELATIONSHIPS BEFORE YOU START A NEW ONE, WHY HURT ANYONE NEW?

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Sun 12/09/12 12:35 AM





Sad thing is, Some people are immoral and they just don't care if they are.


Who decides what immoral is for everyone?



immoral doesnt change , although individuals idea of 'what' is immoral does

if its immoral for one,, its immoral for EVERYONE, morality isnt based upon the person committing the act, but the act itself

I concur


I don't because the question was who gets to decide what acts are immoral? I make that choice for myself ...I might think that smoking cigarettes is immoral because you are knowingly and willingly causing damage to your body and possibly to others. but that does not mean I am right. morals are belief systems not facts. To the degree that they are relativistic in our culture in the west is driven in part by secular law and in part by judeo christian tradition and in part by human psychology (things we know to be right or wrong based on principals of mental and physical health and healthy human development)



there is no disagreement

this is what was said

what is immoral changes from person to person, or at least what is 'believed' to be immoral is

BUT what is immoral doesnt change based upon WHO commits the act

in other words, whatever one feels is immoral, should be immoral for them or anyone else,,,its hardly consistent to say its immoral for others but not for me

and neither is it consistent for me to say, I believe A is immoral for me, but not for others

if an act is immoral, it is immoral, PERIOD. regardless of who does it

now, what act each person thinks is immoral, becomes a more subjective discussion,,,


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Sun 12/09/12 09:12 AM

I would not date someone who is married or seperated. I believe after their divorce they need time to live and be single and to find out who they really are. I always believe that you should get rid of the old luggage before you bring in the new. FIX YOUR OLD RELATIONSHIPS BEFORE YOU START A NEW ONE, WHY HURT ANYONE NEW?


i didn't mention dating.
i'm just talking about sex.

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Sun 12/09/12 09:20 AM


i didn't mention dating.
i'm just talking about sex.


Well shucks, that changes everything!laugh

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Sun 12/09/12 09:23 AM

Well shucks, that changes everything!laugh


obviously!

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Sun 12/09/12 09:27 AM






Sad thing is, Some people are immoral and they just don't care if they are.


Who decides what immoral is for everyone?



immoral doesnt change , although individuals idea of 'what' is immoral does

if its immoral for one,, its immoral for EVERYONE, morality isnt based upon the person committing the act, but the act itself

I concur


I don't because the question was who gets to decide what acts are immoral? I make that choice for myself ...I might think that smoking cigarettes is immoral because you are knowingly and willingly causing damage to your body and possibly to others. but that does not mean I am right. morals are belief systems not facts. To the degree that they are relativistic in our culture in the west is driven in part by secular law and in part by judeo christian tradition and in part by human psychology (things we know to be right or wrong based on principals of mental and physical health and healthy human development)



there is no disagreement

this is what was said

what is immoral changes from person to person, or at least what is 'believed' to be immoral is

BUT what is immoral doesnt change based upon WHO commits the act

in other words, whatever one feels is immoral, should be immoral for them or anyone else,,,its hardly consistent to say its immoral for others but not for me

and neither is it consistent for me to say, I believe A is immoral for me, but not for others

if an act is immoral, it is immoral, PERIOD. regardless of who does it

now, what act each person thinks is immoral, becomes a more subjective discussion,,,




OK - I got it backwards and interpreted your meaning as if I (for example) could tell others what "immoral" is as in what it should be for THEM. The only time I think we run into trouble as least in my experience, is when we try to partner up with someone whose morals are vastly different than out own. Harmony, freedom of conscience is so important to me. thanks for clarifying.

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Sun 12/09/12 09:48 AM


Well shucks, that changes everything!laugh


obviously!



Show a little respect for your elders!:tongue: Sooooooooo, if it's just sex why not talk it over with the guys wife, get her take on it....She might welcome a short respite....

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Sun 12/09/12 10:11 AM
B. slaphead

that is all......

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Sun 12/09/12 10:25 AM






Sad thing is, Some people are immoral and they just don't care if they are.


Who decides what immoral is for everyone?



immoral doesnt change , although individuals idea of 'what' is immoral does

if its immoral for one,, its immoral for EVERYONE, morality isnt based upon the person committing the act, but the act itself

I concur


I don't because the question was who gets to decide what acts are immoral? I make that choice for myself ...I might think that smoking cigarettes is immoral because you are knowingly and willingly causing damage to your body and possibly to others. but that does not mean I am right. morals are belief systems not facts. To the degree that they are relativistic in our culture in the west is driven in part by secular law and in part by judeo christian tradition and in part by human psychology (things we know to be right or wrong based on principals of mental and physical health and healthy human development)



there is no disagreement

this is what was said

what is immoral changes from person to person, or at least what is 'believed' to be immoral is

BUT what is immoral doesnt change based upon WHO commits the act

in other words, whatever one feels is immoral, should be immoral for them or anyone else,,,its hardly consistent to say its immoral for others but not for me

and neither is it consistent for me to say, I believe A is immoral for me, but not for others

if an act is immoral, it is immoral, PERIOD. regardless of who does it

now, what act each person thinks is immoral, becomes a more subjective discussion,,,



I still concur again.
An adult who runs out of town with a 15year old would claim he is in love. He actually sees nothing wrong in it, afterall she sees her monthly visitor and has something large enough to feel the palms up there. The law thinks it wrong? No, its not to people like this. Some people use dirty languages with so much ease that even kids are no exceptions. Why then the asterisks when people write the 'f' word on regulated sites if people should choose whats morally right or not. Shouldn't we be allowed to talk anyhow? If a couple decides to make love on a street they might end up in a lunatic clinic not minding that its how they wanna enjoy their sex.(Afterall everybody does it at home or would do it some day). But weren't they doing what they think is morally ok to them.
The bottom line is, there are people meant to live bad and people meant to live right in every generation.

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Sun 12/09/12 10:51 AM

Show a little respect for your elders!:tongue: Sooooooooo, if it's just sex why not talk it over with the guys wife, get her take on it....She might welcome a short respite....


oh don't think i wouldn't.

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Sun 12/09/12 10:51 AM

B. slaphead

that is all......


love you too, dear.

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Sun 12/09/12 10:56 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Sun 12/09/12 10:56 AM


Show a little respect for your elders!:tongue: Sooooooooo, if it's just sex why not talk it over with the guys wife, get her take on it....She might welcome a short respite....


oh don't think i wouldn't.


Well, if you're that hot for this man's stuff, why waste time here?...Get to his family home and get yourself some....answers...

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Sun 12/09/12 11:00 AM

Well, if you're that hot for this man's stuff, why waste time here?...Get to his family home and get yourself some....answers...


i'm not in the mood.

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Sun 12/09/12 11:05 AM


Well, if you're that hot for this man's stuff, why waste time here?...Get to his family home and get yourself some....answers...


i'm not in the mood.


What's mood got to do with it?

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Sun 12/09/12 11:06 AM

What's mood got to do with it?


uh...
sex?

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Sun 12/09/12 11:09 AM


What's mood got to do with it?


uh...
sex?


Like I said, what's mood got to do with it.....Talk to the man's wife, it will enlighten you B....

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Sun 12/09/12 11:13 AM

Like I said, what's mood got to do with it.....Talk to the man's wife, it will enlighten you B....


won't that be fun.

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Sun 12/09/12 11:21 AM


Like I said, what's mood got to do with it.....Talk to the man's wife, it will enlighten you B....


won't that be fun.


Just remember to bob and weave,...tongue2

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Sun 12/09/12 11:23 AM


B. slaphead

that is all......


love you too, dear.


i know. smokin