Topic: Movies that sort of fell short.... | |
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What I mean by the topic header is that it was a good movie until one thing screwed it all up.
Prometheus 2011. Overall it was not a bad movie per say but the end, and I don't mean the whole part with the pissed off blue man but I mean the very end where the Promethius is crashed into the alien ship and it falls down. That killed the credibility of the movie. Likewise how it was tied into Alien creates a paradox that could only be explained this way... The Blue men came across the Alien Xenomorph predator and tried to weaponize it and they screwed up because the implication was that the Blue men who made us likewise made the Alien Xenomorph. The Alien was supposed to be around since the time of the Egyptians and the Blue man ship was only sent about two thousand years heading for Earth. That implies is where the glaring Paradox begins! the Egyptians were around way before 2000 years ago. But that is food for thought more than the idea of a ship crash landing and rolling over people. That was one moment the directors should have taken the time to think, "This is way too Indiana Jones!" It wasn't a bad movie per say but oh those little details. |
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What I hate about movies are the ones who have the ultimate evil empire that is so secret nobody knows who they are. This secret empire has unlimited resources and man power and technology. No matter how evil the head evil guy is, there is always someone more evil that him.
It always comes down to the ultimate evil vs. the hero of the story, who when all else fails, he takes his information to the press and gets it published in the newspaper and then by some magic, all is well and the bad guy goes down. This is unrealistic today, because (and they don't even want to tell you this) the ultimate evil guy now owns the Media, the story doesn't get to press, and all the witnesses commit suicide or die in mysterious plane crashes or have sudden heart attacks. Please. For once, I would like to see someone just shoot the bad guy and destroy all of his bank accounts with a virus. |
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YellowBrickRoad (2010) - Had great potential, interesting premise. Some truly creepy moments and atmosphere, but ruined by a horrible ending that felt like the film makers had no idea how to end the movie.
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I am Number Four. Great story that had the potential to be a great movie, but was butchered from the opening scene.
The Director on this one totally missed the mark. |
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JEEPERS CREEPERS (2001)- This movie is a prime example of how the final twenty minutes of a film can ruin potential greatness. Don't get me wrong. I love this movie. But every time I watch it I the "Man! This movie could have been so much better" thought runs through my mind.
The build up to when the brother and sister first meet (face to face) the Creeper is done so well. You get to know a bit about the duo so that by the time they battle the Creeper, you actually feel for them. And what is really great about The Creeper is that you have no idea what it is. And you never get a good close up of him until well into the film. But then the psychic lady comes in and explains what she knows about The Creeper and that's when things go silly. There simply is no basis for why she knows these things. Sure it adds to the story and we do learn more about The Creeper. But I honestly feel that had all this remained a mystery that it would have served a better purpose. Like I said, this is great horror film. But it could have been a true classic. |
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Edited by
Torgo70
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Mon 01/07/13 09:35 AM
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JEEPERS CREEPERS (2001)- This movie is a prime example of how the final twenty minutes of a film can ruin potential greatness. Don't get me wrong. I love this movie. But every time I watch it I the "Man! This movie could have been so much better" thought runs through my mind. The build up to when the brother and sister first meet (face to face) the Creeper is done so well. You get to know a bit about the duo so that by the time they battle the Creeper, you actually feel for them. And what is really great about The Creeper is that you have no idea what it is. And you never get a good close up of him until well into the film. But then the psychic lady comes in and explains what she knows about The Creeper and that's when things go silly. There simply is no basis for why she knows these things. Sure it adds to the story and we do learn more about The Creeper. But I honestly feel that had all this remained a mystery that it would have served a better purpose. Like I said, this is great horror film. But it could have been a true classic. I pretty much agree with everything you've said, though I still enjoy it, and part 2, and am looking forward to Jeepers Creepers 3. And from the same director his more recent Rosewood Lane with Rose McGowan I think is underrated and very creepy. I think his first film Clownhouse is my favorite of his. |
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This is 40, was not a comedy it should have been.
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This is 40, was not a comedy it should have been. Really, I thought it was a comedy. I just seen previews. |
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This is 40, was not a comedy it should have been. Really, I thought it was a comedy. I just seen previews. The previews were the good parts. I'm saying it could've been a lot better comedy wise. |
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Looper
Great movie... but I wanted to pull Bruce Willis to the side and say, "You starred in 12 Monkeys... Can't you just explain how a time travel paradox works to everyone?" |
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Torgo70
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Tue 01/08/13 06:06 AM
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I'm a huge fan of George Romero's Day Of The Dead. But I can't help but wonder what it would have been like if he could have used his original script. He had intended to show the zombie epidemic on a more global scale, but because of budget constraints he ended up making the film focus on one small group of characters.
Same for Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, huge fan, but years before in the late 70's Tobe Hooper had originally planned a totally different sequel- Beyond the Valley of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, it would have seen Sally Hardesty being released from a mental asylum, having been left hysterical following her experience with the bizarre family of cannibals years earlier. Along with a group of friends, Sally traveled back to Texas in search of Leatherface, the Old Man and the Hitchhiker, who had survived his collision with the truck, although his skull was partially crushed and his family had kept him tied to a tree. But because of various legal issues, and the original film's rights changing hands, and studio interference this idea was scrapped and Hooper eventually went in a different direction. |
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Tue 01/08/13 06:27 AM
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Planet Of The Apes- The original version with Chuck Heston is one of my all time favorite movies, and I love all the sequels- especially Escape From and Conquest Of. Tim Burton's version was a mess(though the ending was truer to the book than the 1968 version), and I enjoyed Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes a lot.
Now here's where the big but comes in- none of these films really gave us a close adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original book Monkey Planet. The 1968 version had to make several changes from the book due to budget and special effects constraints. Tim Burton's version outside the ending has little to do with the book. And Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes didn't even use the book. Interestingly the closest we've had to the book was the short lived 1970's animated series Return To The Planet Of The Apes, it included many things from the book including the apes having advanced technology, flying machines, and living in a large modern like city. And since I'm on the subject of the apes films: Battle For The Planet Of The Apes The final sequel to the original film. I think the studio was ready to end the franchise, and didn't want to put a lot of money into the final installment, which resulted in the film not having the epic battle the film makers had intended. It also feels very rushed compared to the previous sequels. Still enjoy it though. |
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I'm a huge fan of George Romero's Day Of The Dead. But I can't help but wonder what it would have been like if he could have used his original script. He had intended to show the zombie epidemic on a more global scale, but because of budget constraints he ended up making the film focus on one small group of characters. As much as I love that movie I would have enjoyed seeing that too. Just as long as the... "Choke on 'em!" line is still in there. I actually didn't know that they didn't us his original script. |
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Captain Rhodes is one of my favorite characters of all time. Everything he says is quotable: "I'm running this monkey farm now Frankenstein and I wanna know... what the **** you're doing with my time? "
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Darkstar...
Mind you it is a cult classic but the end was weak. Granted how often do you get to have an existential discussion about reality with a bomb? But aliens taking one guy and the other surfing a planet-fall? Stuck in an escape pod I would have believed! Sean of the Dead had promise but sucked out loud! @Torgo, Planet of the apes, the newest one? I have to agree with you. I would have killed that Chimp general before leaving. Nope, got to leave a built in plot complication! |
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Shaun Of The Dead is brilliant.
Love Darkstar. |
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Shaun Of The Dead is brilliant. Love Darkstar. The comedy of Shaun of the Dead was so dry. Likewise I would have been going at the zombies with flame throwers. They are very easy to make and even a gas pipe with a valve on it and a lighter can make some controllable flame! It was so DRY and emotionally flat. likewise what do you do when Zombies take over? Build a Zombie Lawn Mower and go make a huge smelly festering mess! KILL ALL THE ZOMBIES! Heavy Earth Moving Equipment (HEME) makes for some real wicked man killing (well, zombie killing) machines! Imagine hooking up a tree shredder so you can force feed it Zombies? Make it mobile so you can drive around with it mounted on your Bulldozer. A Zombine? And then there are setting up Kill Weirs that work much like a fishing weir. Walk out on the street, yell "Zombie" as loud as you can, maybe squirt Catchup and Mustard at them seductively, get them to case you into the weir and slip through the only escape. Pull the rope that dumps buckets of gasoline into the weir stuffed with starving crazy Zombies and toss in a match! ZOMBIQUE! Like I said about Darkstar though, it was a great movie BUT the end left me very flat. It was like they were hung on a way to wrap up the movie in a not so cliche` way I guess. I am not sure if the surfing into the planet wasn't a rip off of Dr. Strangelove and the Bomb ride or the other way around. |
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Shaun Of The Dead is brilliant. I agree, it WAS Brilliant as was Trainspotting!! but you do have to have an appreciation for British comedy though.. it has a flavor all it's own |
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Shaun Of The Dead is brilliant. Love Darkstar. The comedy of Shaun of the Dead was so dry. Likewise I would have been going at the zombies with flame throwers. They are very easy to make and even a gas pipe with a valve on it and a lighter can make some controllable flame! It was so DRY and emotionally flat. likewise what do you do when Zombies take over? Build a Zombie Lawn Mower and go make a huge smelly festering mess! KILL ALL THE ZOMBIES! Heavy Earth Moving Equipment (HEME) makes for some real wicked man killing (well, zombie killing) machines! Imagine hooking up a tree shredder so you can force feed it Zombies? Make it mobile so you can drive around with it mounted on your Bulldozer. A Zombine? And then there are setting up Kill Weirs that work much like a fishing weir. Walk out on the street, yell "Zombie" as loud as you can, maybe squirt Catchup and Mustard at them seductively, get them to case you into the weir and slip through the only escape. Pull the rope that dumps buckets of gasoline into the weir stuffed with starving crazy Zombies and toss in a match! ZOMBIQUE! You completely missed the point of the movie. Shaun and Ed weren't supposed to be professional zombie killers, they were two shiftless slackers thrown into the situation. That was the whole point of the movie, this wasn't Zombieland. The humor was spot on, it's a rare horror comedy where the comedy perfectly blended with the horror. Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright are huge horror movie fans, and this was their chance to pay homage to zombie films, but unlike the shitty Scary Movie franchise they actually knew the movies they're they're paying homage to. Edgar and Simon and Nick Frost haven an excellent comedy background as they worked on the hilarious British sitcom Spaced. And their follow up movie Hot Fuzz is also brilliant and it shows their love for the action movies and crime thrillers from the 70's and 80's. George Romero loved Shaun Of The Dead so much he invited Edgar and Simon to make an appearance in Land Of The Dead as zombies. |
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Shaun Of The Dead is brilliant. I agree, it WAS Brilliant as was Trainspotting!! but you do have to have an appreciation for British comedy though.. it has a flavor all it's own I love British comedy. I'm a huge fan of, even though I haven't seen them all yet, of the British comedy film franchise "Carry On". I love Carry On Screaming which spoofs the Hammer movies from the 60's, and Carry On Teacher which spoofs movies like Blackboard Jungle. |
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