Topic: Why do you NEED a gun like an AR-15?
RoamingOrator's photo
Mon 12/03/12 07:31 AM
No one's even mentioned that they are really fun to shoot! :thumbsup:

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/03/12 07:32 AM

No one's even mentioned that they are really fun to shoot! :thumbsup:


Especially with a Starlight Scope and a grenade launcher!!:banana:

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Mon 12/03/12 07:37 AM

No one's even mentioned that they are really fun to shoot! :thumbsup:


I've had fun shooting guns before, but haven't had the need to own one.

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/03/12 07:42 AM


that's an assault weapon

but I bet it could solve the white tailed deer population problem in the northeast....whoa
If I assault someone with a Rock,is it an Assault-Weapon?
The function of a so-called Assault-Weapon once it is in Civilian Ownership,is no different from any semi-Automatic Firearm!



um,, rocks are not CREATED to take life

bad analogy

using a car to plant pots doesnt make it a garden either

but anything DESIGNED to plant and grow vegetation, is a form of a 'garden'

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/03/12 07:45 AM





Why does anyone need Porsche to go to Circle K for a gallon of milk?

We have certain inalienable rights in this country and for some reason there is a cross section of American's who don;t like it.


again,, a PORSCHE is a fancy car and nothing more, it serves the same purpose as any other car, driving from point a to point b

when we talk about something DESIGNED to take life, its not as casual a distinction

in that case, there is a major difference in design intent from a hand gun, to an assault weapon, to a missile launcher



they all take life, but some have more capacity to take more lives without those lives having any chance to fight back


,,,,human life, is not a car

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/03/12 08:28 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 12/03/12 08:36 AM



that's an assault weapon

but I bet it could solve the white tailed deer population problem in the northeast....whoa
If I assault someone with a Rock,is it an Assault-Weapon?
The function of a so-called Assault-Weapon once it is in Civilian Ownership,is no different from any semi-Automatic Firearm!



um,, rocks are not CREATED to take life

bad analogy

using a car to plant pots doesnt make it a garden either

but anything DESIGNED to plant and grow vegetation, is a form of a 'garden'
Cain dood it!
Ashtray then!
Extremism in Defense of one's Life is no Vice!

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/03/12 09:02 AM
cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated

metalwing's photo
Mon 12/03/12 09:10 AM

cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:04 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 12/03/12 10:07 AM


cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.



yes, killing in the name of freedom

more popular than killing in the name of God,,,,,,


perhaps someone can give some statistics on how many of the firarms deaths in our country were resulting from someone defending 'freedom'?

TJN's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:13 AM



cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.



yes, killing in the name of freedom

more popular than killing in the name of God,,,,,,


perhaps someone can give some statistics on how many of the firarms deaths in our country were resulting from someone defending 'freedom'?

So we should lose our right to bear arms and the ability to defend our freedom?

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:15 AM




cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.



yes, killing in the name of freedom

more popular than killing in the name of God,,,,,,


perhaps someone can give some statistics on how many of the firarms deaths in our country were resulting from someone defending 'freedom'?

So we should lose our right to bear arms and the ability to defend our freedom?



thats like the date rapist asking if he should have been expected to stop just because someone said no

there is plenty that comes between owning assault weapons and 'losing' a right to bear arms



metalwing's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:18 AM



cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.



yes, killing in the name of freedom

more popular than killing in the name of God,,,,,,


perhaps someone can give some statistics on how many of the firarms deaths in our country were resulting from someone defending 'freedom'?


Yes, just look up the American Civil War. I'm sure you've heard of it. You will find plenty of statistics there.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:22 AM





cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.



yes, killing in the name of freedom

more popular than killing in the name of God,,,,,,


perhaps someone can give some statistics on how many of the firarms deaths in our country were resulting from someone defending 'freedom'?

So we should lose our right to bear arms and the ability to defend our freedom?



thats like the date rapist asking if he should have been expected to stop just because someone said no

there is plenty that comes between owning assault weapons and 'losing' a right to bear arms



yep,especially since Government declares more and more Firearms as Assaultweapons,and the Major News Services are very obliging by coming up with their own versions of Assaultweapons!
Lately even Assault-Pistols!laugh

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:31 AM






cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.



yes, killing in the name of freedom

more popular than killing in the name of God,,,,,,


perhaps someone can give some statistics on how many of the firarms deaths in our country were resulting from someone defending 'freedom'?

So we should lose our right to bear arms and the ability to defend our freedom?



thats like the date rapist asking if he should have been expected to stop just because someone said no

there is plenty that comes between owning assault weapons and 'losing' a right to bear arms



yep,especially since Government declares more and more Firearms as Assaultweapons,and the Major News Services are very obliging by coming up with their own versions of Assaultweapons!
Lately even Assault-Pistols!laugh



Im thinking, if you can take out more than a dozen people in less than five seconds

it should be considered an 'assault' weapon

if you need a dozen shots to hit one target, you probably shouldnt have a gun,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:37 AM

msharmony's photo
Mon 12/03/12 10:44 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 12/03/12 10:46 AM






I dont consider a rock an assault weapon

when was the last time a ROCK was capable of taking out a dozen people at once,,,,

like,, NEVER


drugs are inanimate,, they kill people who use them,, rather, the people who use them kill themself

so why not have at it and just let people have all the drugs they wish to consume?


cars are inanimate, until someone gets in to drive them, and then only people who cant drive or wish to harm others hurt people with them

so why not just let everyone get a car,,,,no testing, no precautionary measures?


,,,the logic , sounds witty, but its illogical under the surface

TJN's photo
Mon 12/03/12 11:23 AM





cant recall how many times I have needed to take out fifty or sixty folks to defend myself,,,,,


frustrated


Perhaps if you read the Constitution and studied American History you might have some concept of the meaning of the Second Amendment. It is not about defending only one against one. It is about defending a nation of free citizens against enough power to take that freedom away.



yes, killing in the name of freedom

more popular than killing in the name of God,,,,,,


perhaps someone can give some statistics on how many of the firarms deaths in our country were resulting from someone defending 'freedom'?

So we should lose our right to bear arms and the ability to defend our freedom?



thats like the date rapist asking if he should have been expected to stop just because someone said no

there is plenty that comes between owning assault weapons and 'losing' a right to bear arms




So every male should have his penis removed because that's the weapon used in date rape.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 12/04/12 04:15 AM
The Best Comeback Line Ever

Marine Corp's General Reinwald was interviewed on the radio the other day and you have to read his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love this!!!!

This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion of National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster and US Marine Corps General Reinwald who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military installation.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: So, General Reinwald, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

GENERAL REINWALD: We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery, and shooting.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL REINWALD: I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL REINWALD: I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL REINWALD: Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

You gotta love the Marines!

willing2's photo
Tue 12/04/12 05:43 AM
Dis-arm the NOI and NBP first.
I'd bet they are well stocked.

adj4u's photo
Tue 12/04/12 10:29 AM



In the U.S. for 2010, there were 31,513 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 19,308; Homicide 11,015; Accident 600. This makes firearms injuries one of the top ten causes of death in the U.S. The number of firearms-related injuries in the U.S., both fatal and non-fatal, increased through 1993, declined to 1999, and has remained relatively constant since. However, firearms injuries remain a leading cause of death in the U.S., particularly among youth (CDC, 2001) (Sherry et al, 2012).


http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html

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Last year's national decline in traffic fatalities -- to 32,310 -- came as motorists drove about 36 billion, or about 1.2%, fewer miles, perhaps because of high gas prices and a still-difficult economy that might have discouraged pleasure road trips.

The 2011 fatality rate is projected to decline to the lowest on record, to 1.09 fatalities for every 100 million vehicle miles traveled, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Traffic deaths have fallen by about 26% since the 43,510 fatalities reported in 2005; highway fatalities peaked in 1972, at 54,589. In 1949, there were 30,246 fatalities, but the rate was 7.13 fatalities for every 100 million vehicle miles traveled.

Traffic safety experts attributed the decline to a number of factors -- "probably people driving less,........


http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/07/nation/la-na-nn-traffic-deaths-20120507

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looks like motor vehicles are more deadly than firearms


so you drive less you kill fewer people on the roads


but if more people have the capability of having a firearm to defend themselves he homicide rate goes down ----

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..... Today, with fewer gun control laws in place than 20 years ago, homicide rates are down......

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/us/other-states-and-other-times-would-have-posed-obstacles-for-gunman.html?pagewanted=all

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so logically speaking if death is the ruling factor

outlaw motor vehicles and arm the population would b the way to go

per the stats