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Topic: --- Is God real? ---
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Thu 10/25/12 02:34 PM

Again, he doesn't "need" me or anyone or anything. What is your point? God made us, remember? So with that, there is already nothing we could offer God. God has everything.


my point is that you asked me why would life be pointless to God....

if he has everything...then that's why life to him is pointless,

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Thu 10/25/12 04:11 PM


Again, he doesn't "need" me or anyone or anything. What is your point? God made us, remember? So with that, there is already nothing we could offer God. God has everything.


my point is that you asked me why would life be pointless to God....

if he has everything...then that's why life to him is pointless,


How could life be pointless to God, when God is life, he is whom gives us and everything life.

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Thu 10/25/12 05:20 PM
Edited by funches on Thu 10/25/12 05:25 PM



Again, he doesn't "need" me or anyone or anything. What is your point? God made us, remember? So with that, there is already nothing we could offer God. God has everything.


my point is that you asked me why would life be pointless to God....

if he has everything...then that's why life to him is pointless,


How could life be pointless to God, when God is life, he is whom gives us and everything life.


now you're giving sermons....you expecting some tithes or something?

you can send the money to God and help pay for the maintenance of those streets paved with Gold.....I've heard that God "needs" people to help him do that

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Thu 10/25/12 06:09 PM

I don't believe in god myself but who am I to tell someone that does believe that he isn't real. You can make anything real with the right belief.


This is so sad... because it's true.

People beleive that 1-3=0. Those who believe in the Holy Trinity.

This is the first and second questions answered in the RC Catekism, and it's the most impossible belief.

Yet people who want to believe this, they do.

This is so sad. Because 1 cannot be equal to three, since they are axiomatic.

I really don't know how people can believe it, and how people in good conscience can teach this to little kids in Sunday schools.

Judaism is stupid, too. There are too many laws, and they are mostly crazy. But Judaism teaches no logically ab ovo wrong things. Things that can't be true, no matter what, yet you have to accept it as true.

Hinduism is screwed, too. It teaches an even less believable logical fault.

I don't know the Quran... it's self defence, I don't want to be hunted down on the order of some ayatollah.

Let's see... Buddhism is full of it, too, and so is Shintoism and Taoism.

But to make a point of putting the onus on believers to accept that forty-seven to the power of three is forty-seven, is too much to take. Or that one to the power of two is nine. Or that one to the power of one is 27. Or that three to the power of three is 1.

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Thu 10/25/12 07:04 PM




Again, he doesn't "need" me or anyone or anything. What is your point? God made us, remember? So with that, there is already nothing we could offer God. God has everything.


my point is that you asked me why would life be pointless to God....

if he has everything...then that's why life to him is pointless,


How could life be pointless to God, when God is life, he is whom gives us and everything life.


now you're giving sermons....you expecting some tithes or something?

you can send the money to God and help pay for the maintenance of those streets paved with Gold.....I've heard that God "needs" people to help him do that



Have you heard that? Where did you hear that? lol. You're a funny funny man Funches lol. The streets of Heaven are paved in gold not because of the monetary value WE put on it lol, they are paved in gold for their beauty.

And no sermon lol, just discussing the topic at hand. Why do you preach about me preaching all the time?

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Thu 10/25/12 07:10 PM


I don't believe in god myself but who am I to tell someone that does believe that he isn't real. You can make anything real with the right belief.


This is so sad... because it's true.

People beleive that 1-3=0. Those who believe in the Holy Trinity.

This is the first and second questions answered in the RC Catekism, and it's the most impossible belief.

Yet people who want to believe this, they do.

This is so sad. Because 1 cannot be equal to three, since they are axiomatic.

I really don't know how people can believe it, and how people in good conscience can teach this to little kids in Sunday schools.

Judaism is stupid, too. There are too many laws, and they are mostly crazy. But Judaism teaches no logically ab ovo wrong things. Things that can't be true, no matter what, yet you have to accept it as true.

Hinduism is screwed, too. It teaches an even less believable logical fault.

I don't know the Quran... it's self defence, I don't want to be hunted down on the order of some ayatollah.

Let's see... Buddhism is full of it, too, and so is Shintoism and Taoism.

But to make a point of putting the onus on believers to accept that forty-seven to the power of three is forty-seven, is too much to take. Or that one to the power of two is nine. Or that one to the power of one is 27. Or that three to the power of three is 1.


About the trinity thing, I'll explain best I know it and have come to understand it.

The word "god" is not a name, it is not a species, it is not a specific type of being in that such way.

The word "god" means being of authority.

That is why it can say "know ye not, that ye are gods?" "I have said ye are gods" and still say "there is but one god, even the demons tremble" and it not be a contradiction.

We are gods, we have been given dominion over the beasts of this world. Dominion means - Sovereignty; control. With having control over the animals, that makes us authority over them, and that makes us "gods".

But even with us all being "gods", there is but one "God" over us all. And that is God the father. God the father even had authority over Jesus. That is why Jesus came to do his father's will and not his own. And referred to his father as "my God, my God" while he was on the cross.

That is why we can have three entities eg., the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, yet have one "God".

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Thu 10/25/12 08:09 PM

The streets of Heaven are paved in gold not because of the monetary value WE put on it lol, they are paved in gold for their beauty.


I've mention nothing about the monetary value of Gold, I only mention that God "covets" Gold....and Covetance is "Greed"

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Thu 10/25/12 08:24 PM


The streets of Heaven are paved in gold not because of the monetary value WE put on it lol, they are paved in gold for their beauty.


I've mention nothing about the monetary value of Gold, I only mention that God "covets" Gold....and Covetance is "Greed"


Impossible.

Covet = Yearn to possess or have

God already possesses all the gold ever made. Greed would have to do with money and or power. God already has all the power and money, no one could even possibly take that away, he created it. It is his. So no, greed wouldn't factor in there either.

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Thu 10/25/12 08:41 PM
Gold is material posession ...coveting it is greed

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Thu 10/25/12 08:52 PM

God already possesses all the gold ever made. Greed would have to do with money and or power. God already has all the power and money, no one could even possibly take that away, he created it. It is his. So no, greed wouldn't factor in there either.


Jeez Cowboy...the stuff you post about your God...you make him sound like a greedy anal retentive extremist

with Christians like you there is no need for non-believers

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Fri 10/26/12 01:23 AM
I think those who are preoccupied with God and particularly those
who attempt to push their concepts of God or denial of God onto
others are simply uncomfortable with themselves and are struggling
primarily with their own feelings of inadequacy and insecurity!

drinker

laugh

They seek reassurance.

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Fri 10/26/12 04:43 AM

Gold is material posession ...coveting it is greed


All the gold, everything that has ever or ever will exists belongs to God. What are you talking about Funches? God doesn't have to covet anything, it already belongs to him for he created it in the first place. It has no financial value to God, for again he created it and could create more if that was what he wished.

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Fri 10/26/12 04:44 AM


God already possesses all the gold ever made. Greed would have to do with money and or power. God already has all the power and money, no one could even possibly take that away, he created it. It is his. So no, greed wouldn't factor in there either.


Jeez Cowboy...the stuff you post about your God...you make him sound like a greedy anal retentive extremist

with Christians like you there is no need for non-believers


How did you get that from what I said? I can't help it that's the way you perceive things.

CowboyGH's photo
Fri 10/26/12 04:45 AM

I think those who are preoccupied with God and particularly those
who attempt to push their concepts of God or denial of God onto
others are simply uncomfortable with themselves and are struggling
primarily with their own feelings of inadequacy and insecurity!

drinker

laugh

They seek reassurance.



May I ask the point of posting this entirely off topic religion bashing post? No one's pushing anything on anyone. Merely sharing one's beliefs/inner thoughts on the subject at hand.

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Fri 10/26/12 05:41 AM


Gold is material posession ...coveting it is greed


All the gold, everything that has ever or ever will exists belongs to God. What are you talking about Funches? God doesn't have to covet anything, it already belongs to him for he created it in the first place. It has no financial value to God, for again he created it and could create more if that was what he wished.


Cowboy.."Greed" does not need a financial value ...an example is Gluttony

another example is coveting Gold

don't you find it odd and hypocrisy that your "spiritual god" covet "material items" like Gold and adorn the streets and walls of Heaven with this root of all evil




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Fri 10/26/12 05:54 AM
Edited by funches on Fri 10/26/12 06:04 AM



God already possesses all the gold ever made. Greed would have to do with money and or power. God already has all the power and money, no one could even possibly take that away, he created it. It is his. So no, greed wouldn't factor in there either.


Jeez Cowboy...the stuff you post about your God...you make him sound like a greedy anal retentive extremist

with Christians like you there is no need for non-believers


How did you get that from what I said? I can't help it that's the way you perceive things.


if you said the same thing about a Man that you just posted about your God, it would describe a Hitler type personality

so it has nothing to do with preceiving your post in the wrong context.....the problem is that you have a habit of placing your God in an unfavorable light..."all the time"

are you a Christian "sleeper cell"? ...

a "Christian sleeper Cell" is someone that play like they are a Christian so that they can post unfavorable things about the Christian God or(Christian Gods) because they know that another Christian won't dare come and rebuke what another Christian have posted and can therefore bash God under the flag of "Christian Immunity"

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Fri 10/26/12 06:04 AM



Gold is material posession ...coveting it is greed


All the gold, everything that has ever or ever will exists belongs to God. What are you talking about Funches? God doesn't have to covet anything, it already belongs to him for he created it in the first place. It has no financial value to God, for again he created it and could create more if that was what he wished.


Cowboy.."Greed" does not need a financial value ...an example is Gluttony

another example is coveting Gold

don't you find it odd and hypocrisy that your "spiritual god" covet "material items" like Gold and adorn the streets and walls of Heaven with this root of all evil






Gluttony is gorging yourself in food. What does that have to do with what we're talking about?

God covets nothing. Again, to covet something to yearn to possess it. God already possesses everything that's ever been made or will be made. There is no need for God to covet that, for again, he already possesses it all.

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Fri 10/26/12 06:08 AM




God already possesses all the gold ever made. Greed would have to do with money and or power. God already has all the power and money, no one could even possibly take that away, he created it. It is his. So no, greed wouldn't factor in there either.


Jeez Cowboy...the stuff you post about your God...you make him sound like a greedy anal retentive extremist

with Christians like you there is no need for non-believers


How did you get that from what I said? I can't help it that's the way you perceive things.


if you said the same thing about a Man that you just posted about your God, it would describe a Hitler type personality

so it has nothing to do with preceiving your post in the wrong context.....the problem is that you have a habit of placing your God in an unfavorable light..."all the time"

are you a Christian "sleeper cell"? ...

a "Christian sleeper Cell" is someone that play like they are a Christian so that they can post unfavorable things about the Christian God or(Christian Gods) because they know that another Christian won't dare come and rebuke what another Christian have posted and can therefore bash God under the flag of "Christian Immunity"



Yes, that would be true if it was in mention of another person. But we are referring to God here, that is why I say keep it in context. God already possesses it all, not because he's greedy, but because HE'S the one that created it. We are merely temporarily using this stuff. It's all God's already.

Not out of greed, not out of coveting, not out of anything along those lines. Because he is the one that created it.

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Fri 10/26/12 06:11 AM
Edited by funches on Fri 10/26/12 06:12 AM

Gluttony is gorging yourself in food. What does that have to do with what we're talking about?;

Cowboy.wouldn't gorging yourself with food be referred to as being Greedy, why must I always have to explain simple things to you that you should have learn about in kindergarden


God covets nothing. Again, to covet something to yearn to possess it. God already possesses everything that's ever been made or will be made. There is no need for God to covet that, for again, he already possesses it all.


if God already possess everything..that's why it's coveting and Greed

but you still haven't answer the question

THE QUESTION:
why do your spiritual god adorn Heaven with material possesions like Gold which is the root of all evil?

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Fri 10/26/12 06:16 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Fri 10/26/12 06:19 AM

if God already possess everything..that's why it's coveting and Greed

but you still haven't answer the question

THE QUESTION:
why do your spiritual god adorn Heaven with material possesions like Gold which is the root of all evil?



???? Gold isn't the root of all evil, greed is.

And I've already explained that, sorry you don't listen.

Heaven is paved in gold because of it's beauty, not it's financial value we have placed on it.

And no just because God already owns it all, is not coveting or greed. It couldn't possibly be coveting, as coveting is desiring to have. Which he already has, so that moots out coveting as a possibility. God has offered us everything, so that moots out greed.


Cowboy.wouldn't gorging yourself with food be referred to as being Greedy, why must I always have to explain simple things to you that you should have learn about in kindergarden


Only if you didn't share. Again, the two have nothing to do with one another.

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