this is a quote of someone only a couple of months ago on this date
2/2/2012

Yes, evolution has been proven. In fact we have more real, hard evidence for evolution than any other theory in the history of science. It's much more than just the fossil records. Genetics (a science Darwin never dreamed of) fell into place exactly the way evolution predicted it should. All modern biology is based on evolution.

However, I must point out that evolution doesn't say we came from apes. Apes are modern animals just like we are. Evolution says we and apes share a common ancestor. This is a common mistake many people make though.

For an easy way to understand evolution and natural selection, think about artificial selection. We humans have bred dogs of every shape and size that could never survive in nature. We bred them for our own needs. Natural selection works in the same way except it chooses only the animals that are able to survive long enough to find a mate and breed. Those that don't are unable to pass on their genes and die out. Over a very long time tiny changes take place. Just as dogs are different from wolves, but came from wolves nonetheless.

Make sense?
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There appears to be evidence supporting evolution, but it is still a theory and not observed science. You ask any of the evolutionist scientists and they will say it is a theory.

Also you mentioned the natural selection thing, well you said natural selection chooses. Well in that case then who is 'Natural Selection', if it can choose then it has intelligence to choose and wisdom to choose the best, it must have life in it's self, it must be present every where all at once to be able to choose, it must know all about the most fine and complex things to do with genetics and DNA and bio-organisms much more then we know or could ever know and have the ability to manipulate them, it must live eternally to have been around for so long to do what it has done, it must be immensely small yet extremely huge at the same time to work with all life on the planet. Therefor it knows all there is to know, it is everywhere, it is powerful to do the this it has done, it is extremely intelligent, and it must still be active today.

You know what that sounds like to me. It sounds like God the almighty. The one who created all life and sustains it yesterday, today, and tomorrow. The one who Loves us so immensely that he provided a Saviour for us, and has a place for those who believe in his only begotten son to live eternally at.

Also i trust in the science of observation and the longest historical evidence known to humankind, which is the Holy Bible and Christianity. One can not rebuke the longest and most believed truth that there is, for to rebuke it would be unintelligent and foolish, it just wouldn't make sense to reject this well established truth.

'Theory'... I do not think that word means what you think it means.

This quotation from the linked article sums it up:

When used in non-scientific context, the word “theory” implies that something is unproven or speculative. As used in science, however, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.

In science, the word hypothesis is used for something that is unproven or speculative, while theory is reserved for models that have been tested and confirmed, meaning they are no longer speculative. Relativity, gravitation, quantum mechanics, evolution... all of these are confirmed, and all are examples of scientific theories.

Also, and no disrespect intended, the bible has nothing to do with science.

I am glad that someone explained what the word theory means in science.

Also, I agree that the Bible was never meant to be a science text, and it is a violation of the rules of science to require a scientific theory to pass a religious litmus test.

I should add that science is neutral regarding the existence or non-existence of God, but a further discussion of that topic should take place in a separate thread.

ok i be wrong about the theory thing. but the Holy Bible is a scientific book, just have a look at Job chapter 38 and 39, there is about 30 questions that are scientific there and God answers them.

No, it isn't a science book. Sorry.

I dislike being the one to say it, but you are using circular logic.

ViaMusica is correct when she says that the Bible isn't a science text, in that it's purpose is to deliver spiritual lessons, not detailed descriptions of natural history.

did u read job 38 and 39. thats only one section of the bible that talks about scientific stuff

any way this topic is better for the religious threads so back to the original topic, what crazy theories do you have?

No. It talks about God being in control of how things in nature are, but nothing mentioned is testable using scientific methodology.

Are we now using the correct definition of a scientific theory?

WHAT CRAZY THEORIES DO YOU HAVE

As a Melmacian, I had a theory which said that you humans were highly intelligent beings.
Then you humans had to ruin it by proving the theory wrong.

Hey, you asked.

Thank you, David.

Science and religion each have their appropriate realm, and each is valid and valuable in its appointed place. Expecting one to do the job of the other, however, is a lot like trying to use a screwdriver as a hammer. It might accomplish something, but it will be neither easy nor pretty, LOL.

As for crazy scientific theories, I've heard my share. Now I'm trying to think which is the craziest to share here.

well whats the craziest theory u'v ever heard

Well, The Saturn Myth would have to be pretty high on the list.

Basically, this hypothesis states that within the timeframe during which mankind has inhabited the Earth, our world along with Mars, Venus and Saturn once occupied very different orbits from what they do today, being sort of locked together in relation to one another such that Saturn, Mars and Venus all appeared fixed over the North Pole as concentric circles. The idea is that this configuration and the chaos that resulted as it broke apart and the planets found their way to their current orbits forms the basis for nearly all facets of human myth and legend, including most of the major events in the Old Testament and a slew of other mythological occurrences detailed in religions hailing from places as disparate as ancient Egypt and the islands of Polynesia.

It's crazy as all get out and there isn't any genuinely scientific evidence to support it, but it sure spawned a lot of bizarre books.

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Although I do believe there is a God but the big bang may be His way of making the current world. Still evolution is a theory and not an absolute. After all, some a still determine to prove that humans came from apes.

a Scientific Theory can not be crazy,or it wouldn't be a SCIENTIFIC Theory!

http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html

Since when is MetalShadow an expert on the meanings of words?

Sorry, but theory doesn't mean what MetalShadow thinks it means, either.

Also, the theory of evolution does not say that humans came from apes. It says that humans and apes share a common ancestor.