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Topic: Is it a sin?
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 01:51 PM
doesn't matter what the intent is to "Don't spill your seed to the ground" the facts are that it's a sin because God commanded you not to do it And again, HE'S not doing it. It's happening in his sleep, BEYOND his control. What are you getting at? it means either your mind body and/or soul is not with God

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 01:54 PM
You say, we're making excuses "to" spill our seeds on the ground, while we're here stating not to do it... hmmm, interesting take on that Funches. lust in your dreams means Satan dwells in your heart

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 01:56 PM
doesn't matter what the intent is to "Don't spill your seed to the ground" the facts are that it's a sin because God commanded you not to do it And again, HE'S not doing it. It's happening in his sleep, BEYOND his control. What are you getting at? it means either your mind body and/or soul is not with God This flesh is automatically sinful. It automatically desires sinful things. That's why many upon many scriptures speak of overcoming the flesh. And even if you purely only think of God 100% of the time and nothing else, you're mind will think of what it wishes. While sleeping, again you have no control over what you dream. You have control over what you think, because it is a conscience thing done. Your dreams are not. You choose not what you dream of, you don't even choose to dream or not dream.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 01:57 PM
You say, we're making excuses "to" spill our seeds on the ground, while we're here stating not to do it... hmmm, interesting take on that Funches. lust in your dreams means Satan dwells in your heart How so? People that dream they died, does that mean they think of suicide? No, absolutely not. Your dreams and your conscience thoughts have little to nothing to do with one another. Again, some people dream, some do not. I can't remember exactly last time I had a dream, but I haven't had a dream since I was a wee little kid.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 02:18 PM Edited by funches on Thu 09/20/12 02:22 PM
if you dreamed that you died and then committed suicide while you were still asleep that would still be a sin the same as if you had lustful dreams that resulted in a wet dream would be a sin here's a perfect verse for the religious that have wet dream and excuses "Forgive me God, for I know not what I do"

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 02:20 PM
if you dream that you died and committed suicide while you were sleep that would still be a sin the same as if you had lustful dreams that resulted in a wet dream would be a sin here's a perfect verse for the religious that have wet dream and excuses "Forgive me God, for I know not what I do" Aye, but that's not a verse. The only verse I know even similar to that is "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do". But again, that verse does not apply to that which we speak of. For a "wet dream" is not something YOU do. It just happens. You do not cause it to happen, nor do you even choose to dream or not.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 02:24 PM
Aye, but that's not a verse. The only verse I know even similar to that is "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do". a perfect verse for those that have wet dreams

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 02:26 PM
Aye, but that's not a verse. The only verse I know even similar to that is "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do". a perfect verse for those that have wet dreams There is nothing to be forgiven for lol. A dream is not something you choose to do. Therefor is not something that we are judged on. How could one be judged for something they didn't do?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 02:30 PM
For a "wet dream" is not something YOU do. It just happens. You do not cause it to happen, nor do you even choose to dream or not. right..it's not your fault, or the fault of having lust in your heart..little elves floated down and cause it to happen

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 02:36 PM
For a "wet dream" is not something YOU do. It just happens. You do not cause it to happen, nor do you even choose to dream or not. right..it's not your fault, or the fault of having lust in your heart..little elves floated down and cause it to happen "Wet dreams" does not mean you have lust in your heart lol. Your dreams are not controlled by your conscience mind. You do not dream of what you want. Or else we wouldn't have "nightmares". Are you saying those little kids were thinking about their heads being cut off? Their bodies dismembered, ect ect. No lol.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 03:46 PM
doesn't matter what you believe a wet dream is or isn't...you are only require to follow the commands of God without question or excuses, and he commanded his followers to "not spill the seed to the ground" for those religious males that find themselves incapable of following this command for whatever reason ...they need to either pray to God for forgiveness or pray to God for the strength to stop shooting their seed to the ground ..or in this the case shooting it to the bed sheets

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 07:06 PM
doesn't matter what you believe a wet dream is or isn't...you are only require to follow the commands of God without question or excuses, and he commanded his followers to "not spill the seed to the ground" for those religious males that find themselves incapable of following this command for whatever reason ...they need to either pray to God for forgiveness or pray to God for the strength to stop shooting their seed to the ground ..or in this the case shooting it to the bed sheets But they are not spilling their seed, THEY are not choosing to ejaculate. They aren't doing anything to bring this forth. Therefore they could not possibly be held accountable for this. That's like condemning someone for taking a crap. Just naturally happens, it's not something you choose to do.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 07:19 PM
doesn't matter what you believe a wet dream is or isn't...you are only require to follow the commands of God without question or excuses, and he commanded his followers to "not spill the seed to the ground" for those religious males that find themselves incapable of following this command for whatever reason ...they need to either pray to God for forgiveness or pray to God for the strength to stop shooting their seed to the ground ..or in this the case shooting it to the bed sheets But they are not spilling their seed, THEY are not choosing to ejaculate. They aren't doing anything to bring this forth. Therefore they could not possibly be held accountable for this. That's like condemning someone for taking a crap. Just naturally happens, it's not something you choose to do. But it is not constituted as a "sin" Deuteronomy 23 10 If there be among you any man, that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp: 11 But it shall be, when evening cometh on, he shall wash himself with water: and when the sun is down, he shall come into the camp again. ------------------ ESV - English Standard Version 10 “If any man among you becomes unclean because of a nocturnal emission, then he shall go outside the camp. He shall not come inside the camp, 11 but when evening comes, he shall bathe himself in water, and as the sun sets, he may come inside the camp.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 07:44 PM
But they are not spilling their seed, THEY are not choosing to ejaculate. They aren't doing anything to bring this forth. Therefore they could not possibly be held accountable for this. That's like condemning someone for taking a crap. Just naturally happens, it's not something you choose to do. doesn't matter...if you are weak pray to God for strength...or stick a cork in it to keep the seed in during bedtime but anyway it's a miracle that it's finally a thread that keeps you from using your same old argument that you use in every thread about how no one has to follow the Old Testament because Jesus brought forth a New Covenant the New Covenant of Jesus would mean that it's ok for Christians males to spill their seed to the ground

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 09/20/12 07:47 PM
But it is not constituted as a "sin" everytime a Christian male spill during a wet dream..... a puppy dies

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 07:50 PM
But it is not constituted as a "sin" Deuteronomy 23 10 If there be among you any man, that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp: 11 But it shall be, when evening cometh on, he shall wash himself with water: and when the sun is down, he shall come into the camp again. ------------------ ESV - English Standard Version 10 “If any man among you becomes unclean because of a nocturnal emission, then he shall go outside the camp. He shall not come inside the camp, 11 but when evening comes, he shall bathe himself in water, and as the sun sets, he may come inside the camp everytime a Christian male spill during a wet dream..... a puppy dies Don't edit a post lol. Nocturnal emissions are not sinful, for it's not the person choosing to do the action. You can not condemn an innocent man that didn't physically do the wrong.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 09/20/12 07:53 PM
But they are not spilling their seed, THEY are not choosing to ejaculate. They aren't doing anything to bring this forth. Therefore they could not possibly be held accountable for this. That's like condemning someone for taking a crap. Just naturally happens, it's not something you choose to do. doesn't matter...if you are weak pray to God for strength...or stick a cork in it to keep the seed in during bedtime but anyway it's a miracle that it's finally a thread that keeps you from using your same old argument that you use in every thread about how no one has to follow the Old Testament because Jesus brought forth a New Covenant the New Covenant of Jesus would mean that it's ok for Christians males to spill their seed to the ground if you are weak pray to God for strength. How does this have anything to do with being "weak"? It's not a choice, it's not something they choose to do or not do. It just happens naturally while sleeping.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Thu 09/20/12 08:10 PM
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funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Fri 09/21/12 05:22 AM
Nocturnal emissions are not sinful, sorry Cowboy....but according to the bible they are so I have to either take your word for it ...or what was written in the bible choices choices Nocturnal Emissions?...are they like Vampires that only "come" out at night?