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Topic: Strong morals.
MindfreakMandy Joined Sun 08/29/10 Posts: 269	Tue 09/04/12 12:26 PM
I don't believe in marriage, actually.

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Tue 09/04/12 12:29 PM
Allow me to illustrate how subjective one's self-made morals can be. I want people with strong values and morals to chat here! That means people who would only have sex if they're in a relationship with someone they love. The above-quoted statement implies that it is acceptable to have sex with someone to whom you are not married as long as you love that person. Yet, such out-of-wedlock sexual activity is not considered to be moral by some people who have a different morality standard, people who also claim to have strong values and morals. So, are both types of morality standard acceptable on this thread? ha ha perhaps,any one who thinks they have high moral values as per their own standard!

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Tue 09/04/12 12:29 PM
I don't believe in marriage, actually. Good moral

prashant01 Joined Wed 05/06/09 Posts: 14148	Tue 09/04/12 12:30 PM
I never cheated in any relationship, however when not in a relationship, I have "fallin' in love, for one night" on many occasions. Where does that leave me? In the "Sinner's Pit" with the rest of us. Excluding me,ruth.

andrewzooms Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 2842	Tue 09/04/12 12:38 PM
I never cheated in any relationship, however when not in a relationship, I have "fallin' in love, for one night" on many occasions. Where does that leave me? As a normal man who enjoyed the opportunities he received.

Kahurangi Joined Thu 04/26/12 Posts: 1970	Tue 09/04/12 06:10 PM
I want people with strong values and morals to chat here! That means people who would only have sex if they're in a relationship with someone they love. This is for people who are against that "open relationships" crap, one night stands and friends with benefits! This is for people who would never cheat on their partners or do anything sexual or cross emotional boundaries with someone who is in a relationship!!! I value your values, and hold those values dear to myself. Anybody who wants to pizz all over them and rip them apart can kiss my a s s.

Ghostrider2u Joined Thu 05/17/07 Posts: 6953	Tue 09/04/12 06:15 PM
I have strong molar's. Huh??? Ummmmm............. Nevermind!!!

Kahurangi Joined Thu 04/26/12 Posts: 1970	Tue 09/04/12 06:25 PM
I have strong molar's. Huh??? Ummmmm............. Nevermind!!! hahaha...all the better to bite with. Are they your own?

WittyReference Joined Sun 08/26/12 Posts: 14	Tue 09/04/12 07:36 PM
Nietzsche would argue that behaviours stemming from kindness, charity, and the like are signs of overt slave mentalities and as such are less then desirable. What, then, does that make behaviours such as lying, cheating, and one night stands? Would not these actions be preferable as they tie in more closely to our notions of evolution, social and otherwise? Would not a heartless, almost 'collectivist' approach to sexual partners yield more pleasure and viable offspring? I can be a caring, respectable, nurturing gentleman, but at the end of the day, the Master Mentalities are sowing seeds and reaping satisfaction whilst I dwell lonely and abysmal on a dating site. TL;DR Maybe being a dick isn't such a bad thing.

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Tue 09/04/12 07:43 PM
I want people with strong values and morals to chat here! That means people who would only have sex if they're in a relationship with someone they love. This is for people who are against that "open relationships" crap, one night stands and friends with benefits! This is for people who would never cheat on their partners or do anything sexual or cross emotional boundaries with someone who is in a relationship!!! F**** "Open relationships." What an absolutely convoluted idea that constantly astounds me..."You sleep with whoever and you sleep with whoever" yeah, what a novel concept, this way both of you are f**** confused. Sorry, bit of a rant there...My morals aren't exactly "Strong" but I am loyal like a wolf.

kc0003 Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 26382	Tue 09/04/12 07:54 PM
Yeesh, I just wanted to find like-minded individuals to chat with. And what's good about cheating? You say that you want a conversation with people with strong morals, and yet, your morality standard is self-made, which means that nobody else will have a morality standard just like yours. ok I have to ask alf; are you saying that by making her own “moral code” hers don’t count simply because they were not taught out of a book and may or may not fall in line with what others follow? please help me understand your position here.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Tue 09/04/12 07:56 PM Edited by Dodo_David on Tue 09/04/12 08:05 PM
Nietzsche would argue that behaviours stemming from kindness, charity, and the like are signs of overt slave mentalities and as such are less then desirable. What, then, does that make behaviours such as lying, cheating, and one night stands? Would not these actions be preferable as they tie in more closely to our notions of evolution, social and otherwise? Would not a heartless, almost 'collectivist' approach to sexual partners yield more pleasure and viable offspring? I can be a caring, respectable, nurturing gentleman, but at the end of the day, the Master Mentalities are sowing seeds and reaping satisfaction whilst I dwell lonely and abysmal on a dating site. TL;DR Maybe being a dick isn't such a bad thing. Fascinating. So, what is meant by "strong morals" isn't necessarily universal. For example, a woman who does not believe in marriage may be moral in her own eyes, but be immoral in someone else's eyes. I will give another example. In the movie "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince", Harry's friend Ron declares himself to be a free agent when it came to dating. In other words, he did not consider it immoral for him to be with any girl that he wanted to be with. Thus, he did not think of himself as a cheater. If a single man considers himself to be a free agent while he is single, then he may not limit his romantic activities to just one woman, and he would not consider himself to be cheating, because, in his opinion, only a married person can cheat. Two people have to agree to a definition of cheating before either can be accused of cheating. [I could be mistaken about which Harry Potter movie it was.]

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Tue 09/04/12 08:00 PM
Nietzsche would argue that behaviours stemming from kindness, charity, and the like are signs of overt slave mentalities and as such are less then desirable. What, then, does that make behaviours such as lying, cheating, and one night stands? Would not these actions be preferable as they tie in more closely to our notions of evolution, social and otherwise? Would not a heartless, almost 'collectivist' approach to sexual partners yield more pleasure and viable offspring? I can be a caring, respectable, nurturing gentleman, but at the end of the day, the Master Mentalities are sowing seeds and reaping satisfaction whilst I dwell lonely and abysmal on a dating site. TL;DR Maybe being a dick isn't such a bad thing. Fascinating. So, what is meant by "strong morals" isn't necessarily universal. For example, a woman who does not believe in marriage may be moral in her own eyes, but be immoral in someone else's eyes. I will give another example. In the movie "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince", Harry's friend Ron declares himself to be a free agent when it came to dating. In other words, he did not consider it immoral for him to be with any girl that he wanted to be with. Thus, he did not think of himself as a cheater. If a single man considers himself to be a free agent while he is single, then he may not limit his romantic activities to just one woman, and he would not consider himself to be cheating, because, in his opinion, only a married person can cheat. Two people have to agree to a definition of cheating before either can be accused of cheating. Seriously? Cheating only has one definition, I do not see why anyone would have to agree on it...It has f** all to do with morals, it is but one thing and one thing alone.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Tue 09/04/12 08:03 PM
Yeesh, I just wanted to find like-minded individuals to chat with. And what's good about cheating? You say that you want a conversation with people with strong morals, and yet, your morality standard is self-made, which means that nobody else will have a morality standard just like yours. ok I have to ask alf; are you saying that by making her own “moral code” hers don’t count simply because they were not taught out of a book and may or may not fall in line with what others follow? please help me understand your position here. I did not say that her moral code doesn't count. I merely pointed out that her definition of strong morals may not be shared by others.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Tue 09/04/12 08:08 PM
Cheating only has one definition, I do not see why anyone would have to agree on it...It has f*** all to do with morals, it is but one thing and one thing alone. Cheating is a violation of rules, but what are the rules? If two people don't agree to follow the same rules, then can cheating actually take place?

kc0003 Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 26382	Tue 09/04/12 08:10 PM
Yeesh, I just wanted to find like-minded individuals to chat with. And what's good about cheating? You say that you want a conversation with people with strong morals, and yet, your morality standard is self-made, which means that nobody else will have a morality standard just like yours. ok I have to ask alf; are you saying that by making her own “moral code” hers don’t count simply because they were not taught out of a book and may or may not fall in line with what others follow? please help me understand your position here. I did not say that her moral code doesn't count. I merely pointed out that her definition of strong morals may not be shared by others. ok, that's what i was asking. in all reality though, how many of us do share all of the same morals?

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Tue 09/04/12 08:10 PM
Cheating is an act of dishonesty in order to gain an advantage...If your moral scope cannot identify with that, it might be a good idea to stop dating and reevaluate things.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Tue 09/04/12 08:20 PM
Folks, I am making a philosophical argument. If cheating is a violation of rules, then shouldn't two people agree on what the rules are before either is accused of cheating?

kc0003 Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 26382	Tue 09/04/12 08:48 PM Edited by kc0003 on Tue 09/04/12 08:50 PM
Folks, I am making a philosophical argument. If cheating is a violation of rules, then shouldn't two people agree on what the rules are before either is accused of cheating? “That means people who would only have sex if they're in a relationship with someone they love” “…people who are against that "open relationships" crap” “…one night stands and friends with benefits” “…people who would never cheat on their partners” “…or do anything sexual or cross emotional boundaries with someone who is in a relationship” not trying to drag you over the coals here, you asked for her “standard” but she already gave you a scope in which to interpret in her post; it seems to me to be implied that both people are on the same page as far as how to act within the relationship. why then, does it also take an explanation as to how she arrived at her moral resting place? "self made as it may be" and what does that mean anyway...don't we all make our own?

Hikerjohn Joined Sun 08/19/12 Posts: 1028	Wed 09/05/12 06:01 AM Edited by Hikerjohn on Wed 09/05/12 06:05 AM
KC I might be missing it but I think you kind of make David's point when you made a list Everyone has values. Moral values, core values, what ever you want to call them. There are things that I value. I value marriage the OP doesn't. We both value having one partner at a time. Others value the freedom of having lots of partners anytime they want. But we all feel that we are moral as long as we don't violate what we value. Our personal core values. So when the OP opened a threat intending to chat with only people with morals. The challenge begins.