Topic: Israel’s Sacred Terrorism
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Thu 08/09/12 11:21 PM
During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the western part of Jerusalem was captured by Israel, while East Jerusalem (including the Old City) was captured by Jordan. The 1948 Arab-Israeli War came to an end with the signing of the 1949 Armistice Agreements.

Upon its capture, the Jordanians immediately expelled all the Jewish residents of the Jewish Quarter. All the main synagogues were destroyed, and the Jewish Quarter was bulldozed. The ancient Jewish cemetery on Mount of Olives was desecrated, and the tombstones there were used for construction and paving roads. Jordan also destroyed the Jewish villages of Atarot and Neve Yaakov just north of Jerusalem (their sites became Jerusalem neighborhoods after 1967).

East Jerusalem absorbed some of the refugees from West Jerusalem's Arab neighborhoods that came under Israeli rule. Thousands of Arabs were settled in the previously Jewish areas of Jerusalem.

In 1950 East Jerusalem, along with the rest of the West Bank, was annexed by Jordan. However, the annexation of the West Bank was recognized only by the United Kingdom, although the Israeli and Jordanian annexations of the two parts of Jerusalem were given only de facto recognition.

During the period of Jordanian rule, East Jerusalem lost much of its importance, as it was no longer a capital, and losing its link to the coast diminished its role as a commercial hub. It even saw a population decrease, with merchants and administrators moving to Amman. On the other hand, it maintained its religious importance, as well as its role as a regional center. Reaffirming a 1953 statement, Jordan in 1960 declared Jerusalem its second capital. The USA (and other powers) protested this plan, and stated it could not "recognize or associate itself in any way with actions which confer upon Jerusalem the attributes of a seat of government . . ."

During the 1960s Jerusalem saw economic improvement and its tourism industry developed significantly, and its holy sites attracted growing numbers of pilgrims, but Israelis of all religions were not allowed into East Jerusalem. Jews were not allowed access to the Mount of Olives, Western Wall and other holy sites, in contravention of the 1949 Armistice Agreements.


The Kendall Town Scheme was commissioned by the Jordanian government in 1966 to link East Jerusalem with the surrounding towns and villages, integrating them into a metropolitan area. This plan was not implemented, as East Jerusalem came under Israeli rule the following year.

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Thu 08/09/12 11:24 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Thu 08/09/12 11:27 PM

Wow....didn't think I could completely lose respect for someone over a post....I was wrong.

Maybe it will help if you keep posting the same stuff over and over again just to keep the thread alive.

So....what's the agenda?

You wanting the all the Jews to commit suicide? Would that make you happy?

(don't bother answering...us Jew bloods don't give a fk what you think)

My family dealt with that crap durng the Holocaust...two survived.

From here on out...expect me to view you as someone beneath respect.




A totally uncalled for personal attack.

I do not know you so how can you lose respect for someone you know nothing about.

Show me where I posted the same stuff over and over.

You wanting the all the Jews to commit suicide? ..NO

Would that make you happy?...No...I am a happy bunny


So....what's the agenda?.....NO agenda

I have shook the hand of one of the very few remaining survivors of Auschwitz Dr Hajo Meyer













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Thu 08/09/12 11:28 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Thu 08/09/12 11:30 PM


Even though you put in your laughing emoticons It is getting to you....RIGHT...otherwise you wouldn't bother to mention it

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So, is annoying people the real purpose of this thread?


NO

The purpose of all my threads is to get at the truth.

I am only interested in the Truth.










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Thu 08/09/12 11:33 PM

"Jews" are regular people like anyone else. Some are religious, some are not. Some are nice law abiding citizens, some are criminals. Some are even catholic. laugh (Some admit to being Jewish, some hide their bloodlines and change their last names.)


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Thu 08/09/12 11:45 PM
Holocaust Survivor Dr. Hajo Meyer:

Zionist Israel Behaving Like Nazis!

Zionism And Judaism Is Complete Opposite!

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 08/09/12 11:48 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 08/09/12 11:49 PM

Holocaust Survivor Dr. Hajo Meyer:

Zionist Israel Behaving Like Nazis!

Zionism And Judaism Is Complete Opposite!
he ought to have known better than sounding off like that,considering what happened to him!slaphead

there is a nice designation for the likes of him!

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Thu 08/09/12 11:52 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Thu 08/09/12 11:54 PM
Hajo Meyer — an author, political activist and Auschwitz concentration camp survivor — compared Israel’s relations with the Palestinians to Nazi relations with Jews during the Holocaust

He has a point.

Strip Searching

Thousands of Checkpoints.

Subjugation.

Humiliation


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Fri 08/10/12 02:31 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 08/10/12 02:33 AM


Wow....didn't think I could completely lose respect for someone over a post....I was wrong.

Maybe it will help if you keep posting the same stuff over and over again just to keep the thread alive.

So....what's the agenda?

You wanting the all the Jews to commit suicide? Would that make you happy?

(don't bother answering...us Jew bloods don't give a fk what you think)

My family dealt with that crap durng the Holocaust...two survived.

From here on out...expect me to view you as someone beneath respect.




A totally uncalled for personal attack.

I do not know you so how can you lose respect for someone you know nothing about.

Show me where I posted the same stuff over and over.

You wanting the all the Jews to commit suicide? ..NO

Would that make you happy?...No...I am a happy bunny


So....what's the agenda?.....NO agenda

I have shook the hand of one of the very few remaining survivors of Auschwitz Dr Hajo Meyer





Hajo Meyer — an author, political activist and Auschwitz concentration camp survivor — compared Israel’s relations with the Palestinians to Nazi relations with Jews during the Holocaust

He has a point.

Strip Searching

Thousands of Checkpoints.

Subjugation.

Humiliation


Right.

There is no comparison between gas chambers and checkpoints to search
for bombs in vehicles or carried onto an airplane. It is an
inconvenience we ALL live with after the radical Islamic terrorist
attacks in London and Madrid and New York.

Checkpoints do not kill anyone. Unfortunately everyone knows why
they are necessary. Modern radical Islamic terrorism aimed at killing
as many innocent people as possible in bombing attacks is why
checkpoints and searches are needed.





Anyone making claims comparing Nazi atrocities to checkpoints and
searches clearly is not interested in honest dialogue.

At first, the victims were driven inside, fully clothed, by SS guards wielding clubs and whips, according to Müller, who was assigned in May 1942 to remove the clothing of the victims after they were gassed in the main Auschwitz camp. The victims had carried their luggage inside with them and Müller described how he ate some of the cheese that he found in a suitcase inside the gas chamber.





Jewish children, the victims of medical experiments in Auschwitz

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/aupictoc.html

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Fri 08/10/12 03:17 AM
Hajo Meyer left Nazi Germany at the age of 14 and lived as a Jewish refugee for the next three years in the Netherlands. He lived underground and worked with Jewish resistance groups for approximately a year but was eventually betrayed and landed in the Auschwitz concentration camp, where he remained for 10 months. Since then, Meyer has been the director of Philips Electronics, a violin designer and, today, is a writer and speaker for Palestinian rights.

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Fri 08/10/12 03:42 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 08/10/12 03:56 AM

Hajo Meyer left Nazi Germany at the age of 14 and lived as a Jewish refugee for the next three years in the Netherlands. He lived underground and worked with Jewish resistance groups for approximately a year but was eventually betrayed and landed in the Auschwitz concentration camp, where he remained for 10 months. Since then, Meyer has been the director of Philips Electronics, a violin designer and, today, is a writer and speaker for Palestinian rights.
so what?
and now he has become a Stooge for the same Mentality that almost killed him!
Lenin was right!

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Fri 08/10/12 03:48 AM
There are many forms of genocide,” Meyer told the Wheel before the conference, noting that as a teenager, he was unable to attend school in Nazi Germany. “So one form of genocide is preventing young people who want to learn something and want to develop their personality from doing so. Mass deportation is genocide, and hunger is genocide. There are … many, many forms of it.”

Before the lecture, Meyer also explained that he hopes students and other audience members would come out of the lecture recognizing “that the Holocaust has a lesson. Never genocide on any group, no matter whom it may be.”

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Fri 08/10/12 03:58 AM

There are many forms of genocide,” Meyer told the Wheel before the conference, noting that as a teenager, he was unable to attend school in Nazi Germany. “So one form of genocide is preventing young people who want to learn something and want to develop their personality from doing so. Mass deportation is genocide, and hunger is genocide. There are … many, many forms of it.”

Before the lecture, Meyer also explained that he hopes students and other audience members would come out of the lecture recognizing “that the Holocaust has a lesson. Never genocide on any group, no matter whom it may be.”
sad that he hasn't learned the Lesson!

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Fri 08/10/12 04:15 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Fri 08/10/12 04:19 AM
Hajo Meyer is a German-Dutch physicist and Jewish political activist. Born in Bielefeld, in 1938 Meyer fled from Nazi Germany to the Netherlands alone, without his parents.




Dr Hajo Meyer, 86, who survived 10 months in the Nazi death camp, spoke out as his 10-day tour of the UK and Ireland

I went to see him while he was in Ireland and I am so glad that he shook my hand.

The world needs more people of this mans caliber

One of the last remaining Auschwitz survivors.


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Fri 08/10/12 04:17 AM


There are many forms of genocide,” Meyer told the Wheel before the conference, noting that as a teenager, he was unable to attend school in Nazi Germany. “So one form of genocide is preventing young people who want to learn something and want to develop their personality from doing so. Mass deportation is genocide, and hunger is genocide. There are … many, many forms of it.”

Before the lecture, Meyer also explained that he hopes students and other audience members would come out of the lecture recognizing “that the Holocaust has a lesson. Never genocide on any group, no matter whom it may be.”
sad that he hasn't learned the Lesson!

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Fri 08/10/12 04:25 AM

Hajo Meyer is a German-Dutch physicist and Jewish political activist. Born in Bielefeld, in 1938 Meyer fled from Nazi Germany to the Netherlands alone, without his parents.




Dr Hajo Meyer, 86, who survived 10 months in the Nazi death camp, spoke out as his 10-day tour of the UK and Ireland

I went to see him while he was in Ireland and I am so glad that he shook my hand.

The world needs more people of this mans caliber

One of the last remaining Auschwitz survivors.


Survivor-Guilt!

ten months?
I knew People who were in KZ quite a bit longer!

Optomistic69's photo
Fri 08/10/12 04:28 AM
The world needs more people of this mans caliber

Why would anyone discredit this man

Could we say that anyone who discredits this man is an Anti-Semite?

Could we say that anyone who discredits this man is an Jew-Hater?

Could we say that anyone who discredits this man is lying to themselves?

I say that this man is a very brave man...no hiding behind a computer for this guy.

One of the last remaining Auschwitz survivors.


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Fri 08/10/12 05:04 AM
Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism

Robert Wistrich1

Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct.



The question of whether anti-Zionism can or should be equated with anti-Semitism is one of those pivotal issues that refuse to go away. It is of considerable importance in any effort to define the nature of the "new Judeophobia" and strategies to deal with it. Recently when I addressed British MPs in the House of Commons, this was the first order of business. Surely, they wanted to know, doubts about Zionism or alarm at Israel's policies must be distinguished from loathing toward Jews? Was it not true that anti-Semitism was frequently confused with "anti-Sharonism," as The Guardian likes to claim? Did not Jews themselves often engage in the fiercest opposition to Israeli government policy without being accused of anti-Semitism? Finally, exaggerated use of the Judeophobic charge, it was suggested, might raise the suspicion that Israel's leaders were seeking to deflect or even silence justified criticism.

My answer to such objections is that anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are two distinct ideologies that over time (especially since 1948) have tended to converge, generally without undergoing a full merger. There have always been Bundists, Jewish communists, Reform Jews, and ultra-Orthodox Jews who strongly opposed Zionism without being Judeophobes. So, too, there are conservatives, liberals, and leftists in the West today who are pro-Palestinian, antagonistic toward Israel, and deeply distrustful of Zionism without crossing the line into anti- Semitism. There are also Israeli "post-Zionists" who object to the definition of Israel as an exclusively or even a predominantly "Jewish" state without feeling hostile toward Jews as such. There are others, too, who question whether Jews are really a nation; or who reject Zionism because they believe its accomplishment inevitably resulted in uprooting many Palestinians. None of these positions is intrinsically anti-Semitic in the sense of expressing opposition or hatred toward Jews as Jews.

That goes for Dr.Myers as well!

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Fri 08/10/12 05:12 AM
Zionism is the greatest enemy of Israel. Joe Biden is A Catholic Zionist


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Fri 08/10/12 05:16 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 08/10/12 05:25 AM
Zionism is the National patriotism of Israel.
Joe Biden is a strong supporter of Israel.
Barak Obama is a strong supporter of Israel.
Mitt Romney is a strong supporter of Israel.
Bill Clinton is a strong supporter of Israel.
George H. W. Bush is a strong supporter of Israel.
George W. Bush is a strong supporter of Israel.
The American public are strong supporters of Israel.
Jimmy Carter is a nutball who has eventually come to
spout anti-Israel propaganda.


laugh

And could you say exactly how mass murder of millions of
innocent men women and children, their torture by medical
experimentation and burying them alive in mass graves compares
to airport screenings yet?

I did not think you could.

laugh

I'd choose the airport screenings.
I mean really.

laugh


What's wrong? Tired of YELLING AT US in blue?


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Fri 08/10/12 05:18 AM
Hajo Meyer said he feels those who support the “inhumane and unjust policies of the Israeli occupation” misuse the Holocaust to justify policies toward the Palestinians.