Topic: 9/11 SYNTHETIC TERRORISM<>MADE IN USA
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Sun 07/29/12 10:42 AM






Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh

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Sun 07/29/12 10:42 AM
light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.



The controllers have such a lack of respect for the dumbed down public at large they don't even try to create believable fake evidence. They figure that the public at large are idiots and will believe anything they hear on the major media and not question it.

They are highly mistaken.

We question all of it, as we should.

They have no proof of any of their claims that could withstand any real scrutiny. That is why they won't reveal any of their so-called evidence. They claim that it is an "on going investigation" when in truth they aren't investigating anything at all.




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Sun 07/29/12 10:46 AM







Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 07/29/12 10:47 AM

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.



The controllers have such a lack of respect for the dumbed down public at large they don't even try to create believable fake evidence. They figure that the public at large are idiots and will believe anything they hear on the major media and not question it.

They are highly mistaken.

We question all of it, as we should.

They have no proof of any of their claims that could withstand any real scrutiny. That is why they won't reveal any of their so-called evidence. They claim that it is an "on going investigation" when in truth they aren't investigating anything at all.




I would be glad if they did release the flight recorder data the conversation of the hijackers would be something like.

"What is this button for"
"What does this do?"
"darn wish I would have paid better attention in my Cessna class"
"How do I turn this baby?"
"what direction is the pentagon cant tell were I am from way up here"
"everything is going by so fast"
"someone shut that crying kid up back in coach I cant concentrate"

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Sun 07/29/12 10:50 AM








Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl


I know!laugh Wonder how much Cimino needed to buy that little 4000 sq ft weekend get-away cottage he was salivating over?...

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 07/29/12 10:56 AM









Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl


I know!laugh Wonder how much Cimino needed to buy that little 4000 sq ft weekend get-away cottage he was salivating over?...
It didn't cost me a thing, My friend who I have known since grade school rented it. He lives in the suburbs and wished to give his kids a taste of country life.

I rented it one year due to my child's summer sports it made a little camping trip doable and one cannot put a price on family time away from TV's ,computers, and all life's distractions.

Have you raised a family?


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Sun 07/29/12 11:04 AM








Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl



We who want the truth are all individuals. It is not required that we all "agree" on anything.

But the one thing we do agree on is that we are being lied to.

And we all agree that the official fairy tale about 9/11 is absurd.

It is so absurd, in fact, I get the feeling they intentionally created it to be absurd just to mock and make fun of the American people test to see how really stupid and/or powerless we are to do much about it.

Or else they feel that they are so powerful, that they can tell us any absurd thing they want, knowing that even if we know it is a lie, we can't really do anything about it because they are the ones who control the Justice Department, the banks, and most of the world.

Either that or they are not so smart as they think they are.


Conrad_73's photo
Sun 07/29/12 11:11 AM









Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl



We who want the truth are all individuals. It is not required that we all "agree" on anything.

But the one thing we do agree on is that we are being lied to.

And we all agree that the official fairy tale about 9/11 is absurd.

It is so absurd, in fact, I get the feeling they intentionally created it to be absurd just to mock and make fun of the American people test to see how really stupid and/or powerless we are to do much about it.

Or else they feel that they are so powerful, that they can tell us any absurd thing they want, knowing that even if we know it is a lie, we can't really do anything about it because they are the ones who control the Justice Department, the banks, and most of the world.

Either that or they are not so smart as they think they are.


Down with those Reptilians!grumble

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Sun 07/29/12 11:15 AM
From Rense.com

Two 9/11 Airliners, Flight
93 and 175, Were Only Just
Recently Taken Off The FAA
'Active' List
Are Both Jetliners Still
Flying in United's 'Friendly Skies'?

FAA records for four years listed both 9/11 United jetliners as still on the 'active' list. Now planes only 'deregistered' in September after snoopy researchers questioned FAA officials a month earlier.

By Greg Szymanski
11-26-5

Two of the 9/11 airliners were never 'deregistered' and remained on the 'active' flight list until Sept. 28. 2005, the classification officially changing only a month after two inquisitive flight researchers made repeated calls to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), inquiring about the strange irregularity.

The two planes in question were Flight 93 and Flight 175, both owned and operated by United Airlines and, according to the official story, both destroyed on 9/11, one in Shanksville, Penn., and the other crashing into the South Tower of the WTC.

Usually a normal procedure after an airliner is destroyed, why it took United more than four years to 'deregister' the airplanes and fill out the official FAA paperwork remains a mystery and never has been fully explained by the FAA, United or the government.

In fact, in stark contrast, a check of FAA records shows the two other American Airline flights, Flight 11 and 77, both were 'deregistered' and classified as 'destroyed' only months after 9/11 on Jan. 14, 2002.

Why the late filing by United?

"My brother and I both wrote the FAA in August about this situation and asked why the planes were not deregistered. The FAA said that an owner does not need to deregister an aircraft," said one of the researchers named Roger, who preferred only to use his first name. "Ironically, a couple of months after I wrote the FAA, the planes were deregistered. What's up with that?

"Although the planes are deregistered, they are not listed as cause destroyed but rather as cause cancelled. The American airplanes are clearly listed as cause destroyed but not so the United planes.

"There is a guy who was saying on a web posting that he knew one of the United planes was still in service in Chicago. I know nothing of how he would know this or who he was but I think he was the same guy who brought this stuff to our attention and he's clearly right about the planes still being registered.

"Two planes destroyed and two planes still flying? Are you familiar with the Cleveland airport mystery? So did Flight 93 land at Cleveland with 200 passengers on board?"

A recent check of FAA records proves the flight researcher's statements correct as Flight 93 identified as N591UA and Flight 175 as N612UA, both were taken off the active FAA list in September with a reason given as 'cancelled' not 'destroyed.'

The FAA again was contacted this week, giving the same answers given to the two researchers back in August regarding the late deregistration. And in regards to listing both United flights as 'cancelled not destroyed,' FAA officials also gave no further explanation.

Besides the FAA deregistration issue, solid evidence has also come forward that two of the 9/11 flights, Flight 11 and 77, never even existed at all, according to Bureau of Traffic Safety (BTS) records.

According to BTS statistics, both 11 and 77 officially never took-off on 9/11. The meticulous data kept on every airliner taking-off at every airport in the country also showed no elapsed run-way time, wheels-off time and taxi-out time, not to mention several other categories left blank on 9/11 concerning the two flights.

Although Flights 11 and 77 have the above data meticulously logged on 9/10, it was suspiciously absent on 9/11, even when every other plane that took of that day had been recorded and logged by the BTS.

Why the discrepancy? No one has ever given an official explanation for the BTS missing flight data, even though it is well known that airports are extremely concerned about recording accurate BTS data for each and every flight in and out of its airport for liability purposes.

More importantly critics contend this is another clear indication Flight 11 and 77 were only 'phantom flights," adding even further doubt to the credibility of the official government story concerning 9/11.

Besides the FAA and BTS irregularities, the official flight lists from all four flights have been a serious bone of contention for 9/11 critics, who call attention to the glaring errors and conflicting passenger numbers on many of the flight lists released, many coming from unverified sources.

On Flight 11, for example, American Airlines released two different lists containing 77 and 75 names the day after 9/11, but the Washington Post published 89 names the same day while the Boston Daily published 89 names with conflicting names, however. Remember, complicating matters worse, Fox News all along was still claiming that only 81 names were confirmed a week later.

Through out the years, not only have the numbers conflicted but so have the names on the lists. Gerald Holmgren, a 9/11 researcher who has spent much time and effort researching the flight irregularities found one of the most glaring errors never explained by the airlines or the government.

Holmgren, whose compilation of 9/11 flight data can be found at
http://indymedia.all2all.org/news/2004/05/84711.php, uncovered that four of the alleged passengers on American Airlines Flight 11 with the last names of Ward, Weems, Roux and Jalbert also mysteriously and unexplainable were also listed as passengers on Flight 175 that struck the South Tower.

Holmgren in his 2004 article had this to say:

"What a mess! This crime - the murder of approximately 3000 people, and the excuse for two wars and alarming attacks on civil liberties - and presumably more to come - is supposed to have been properly investigated and documented? Why should we be expected to believe who the hijackers were, when the spin doctors can't even do a credible fabrication job of a list of innocent victims?

"It's previously been demanded by many skeptics that we need to see a verifiable official passenger list which actually contains the names of the alleged hijackers. We can now take the implications of that further and point to the absence of any passenger list documentation for AA11 which stands up to scrutiny as a credible document. We have nothing which could support the existence of any of the alleged passengers on the alleged flight."


For more Greg Szymanski articles, please visit
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/arcticbeacon.html


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Sun 07/29/12 11:16 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 07/29/12 11:16 AM
United Airlines Reinstates Numbers Of Two Planes That Crashed On 9/11: 93 And 175

Airline Apologizes, Blames 'Technical Error'

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/05/18/united-airlines-reinstates-numbers-of-two-planes-that-crashed-on-911-93-and-175/

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Sun 07/29/12 11:18 AM
Besides the FAA deregistration issue, solid evidence has also come forward that two of the 9/11 flights, Flight 11 and 77, never even existed at all, according to Bureau of Traffic Safety (BTS) records.

According to BTS statistics, both 11 and 77 officially never took-off on 9/11. The meticulous data kept on every airliner taking-off at every airport in the country also showed no elapsed run-way time, wheels-off time and taxi-out time, not to mention several other categories left blank on 9/11 concerning the two flights.

Although Flights 11 and 77 have the above data meticulously logged on 9/10, it was suspiciously absent on 9/11, even when every other plane that took of that day had been recorded and logged by the BTS.


Optomistic69's photo
Sun 07/29/12 11:19 AM









Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl



We who want the truth are all individuals. It is not required that we all "agree" on anything.

But the one thing we do agree on is that we are being lied to.

And we all agree that the official fairy tale about 9/11 is absurd.

It is so absurd, in fact, I get the feeling they intentionally created it to be absurd just to mock and make fun of the American people test to see how really stupid and/or powerless we are to do much about it.

Or else they feel that they are so powerful, that they can tell us any absurd thing they want, knowing that even if we know it is a lie, we can't really do anything about it because they are the ones who control the Justice Department, the banks, and most of the world.

Either that or they are not so smart as they think they are.




I agree with all of the abovedrinker :wink: flowerforyou

We are on the same sheet Jeannie......:wink:

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 07/29/12 11:26 AM
Edited by Bestinshow on Sun 07/29/12 11:28 AM
Things we might hear if the real flight recorder from the pentagon crash site were released.

"Darn this thing is hard to turn"
"Wish I wouldn't have stayed up all night doing coke at a strip club I am about to meet Alah"
"why are all these controls in English?"
"You were right Akmude these are easier to fly than the Cessna"
"look at me now flight instructor you said I couldn't fly!"
"quick turn off the transponder so we become invisible stupid Americans wasted a trillion on stealth technology"
" I cant see a thing from way up here were are we? did you bring the TomTom? "
" I though Washington was the most defended air space on the planet and we fly unmolested this is to easy"

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Sun 07/29/12 11:27 AM
Unions slam United for mistakenly reinstating 9/11 flight numbers

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/05/unions-slam-united-for-accidentally-reinstating-911-flight-numbers/170842/1



So here above you have two flights that "mistakenly" were reinstated, and two that "never existed."


Very interesting.... indeed.spock

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Sun 07/29/12 11:29 AM
Holmgren in his 2004 article had this to say:

"What a mess! This crime - the murder of approximately 3000 people, and the excuse for two wars and alarming attacks on civil liberties - and presumably more to come - is supposed to have been properly investigated and documented? Why should we be expected to believe who the hijackers were, when the spin doctors can't even do a credible fabrication job of a list of innocent victims?

"It's previously been demanded by many skeptics that we need to see a verifiable official passenger list which actually contains the names of the alleged hijackers. We can now take the implications of that further and point to the absence of any passenger list documentation for AA11 which stands up to scrutiny as a credible document. We have nothing which could support the existence of any of the alleged passengers on the alleged flight."

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Sun 07/29/12 11:31 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Sun 07/29/12 11:49 AM










Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl


I know!laugh Wonder how much Cimino needed to buy that little 4000 sq ft weekend get-away cottage he was salivating over?...
It didn't cost me a thing, My friend who I have known since grade school rented it. He lives in the suburbs and wished to give his kids a taste of country life.

I rented it one year due to my child's summer sports it made a little camping trip doable and one cannot put a price on family time away from TV's ,computers, and all life's distractions.

Have you raised a family?




Can you read?...I said Ciminoslaphead Too funny!!!!!!rofl

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Sun 07/29/12 11:32 AM
The fact remains there is NO Proof that anyone boarded the flights that were supposed to have flown into the world trade center.

No credible passenger lists, no witnesses, no videos of ANYONE boarding these planes.


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Sun 07/29/12 11:34 AM

Unions slam United for mistakenly reinstating 9/11 flight numbers

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/05/unions-slam-united-for-accidentally-reinstating-911-flight-numbers/170842/1



So here above you have two flights that "mistakenly" were reinstated, and two that "never existed."


Very interesting.... indeed.spock
not a word about Non-existing Planes in that Article!laugh


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Sun 07/29/12 11:38 AM
Besides the FAA and BTS irregularities, the official flight lists from all four flights have been a serious bone of contention for 9/11 critics, who call attention to the glaring errors and conflicting passenger numbers on many of the flight lists released, many coming from unverified sources.

On Flight 11, for example, American Airlines released two different lists containing 77 and 75 names the day after 9/11, but the Washington Post published 89 names the same day while the Boston Daily published 89 names with conflicting names, however. Remember, complicating matters worse, Fox News all along was still claiming that only 81 names were confirmed a week later.

Through out the years, not only have the numbers conflicted but so have the names on the lists. Gerald Holmgren, a 9/11 researcher who has spent much time and effort researching the flight irregularities found one of the most glaring errors never explained by the airlines or the government.

Holmgren, whose compilation of 9/11 flight data can be found at
http://indymedia.all2all.org/news/2004/05/84711.php, uncovered that four of the alleged passengers on American Airlines Flight 11 with the last names of Ward, Weems, Roux and Jalbert also mysteriously and unexplainable were also listed as passengers on Flight 175 that struck the South Tower.

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Sun 07/29/12 11:40 AM











Just a smidgen of my studies concerning the black boxes...

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/investigations/q0302.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_Aerospace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77


The third link includes a list of several plane crashes in which the flight data recorders were destroyed...
Interesting Stuff!:thumbsup: waving
OMg this is it?

Do you not comprehend what you read?

The very short list of Black boxes not recovered lists the reasons some at an extreme altitude, others in very deep water etc etc. This is no case for an argument at all in fact it supports the fact that it is totally odd the boxes were not recovered on all four planes involved on 911. laugh
seems you haven't read it!
Pentagon was found!
Still wondering why nothing at WTC?
Well,think again!
Think DEBRIS and FIRE!a bit more Temperature than the 500F they could stand,for much longer!
But like I have said before,physical Facts have never stopped CTs before!laugh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unrecovered_flight_recorders
Did they make it public Mr Conrad?

Would it not be in the public interest to hear and see what exactly happened?

I would suggest though that it was a plant.

light data recorder expert Dennis Cimino, commercial pilot with more than 2000 hours, reveals government's claims about a flight data recorder found at the Pentagon from Flight 77 are totally fraudulent, with zeros instead of the plane's identification number and flight number! The recorder did not come from an airliner but was apparently created at a workbench and was also missing data that an actual flight would have, such as mandatory barometric adjustments and even any record of the cockpit door opening. The talk was given June 17, 2012 at the Vancouver 911 Hearing. Please visit pilotsfor911truth.org... for more information.
yep,love your Expert!laugh

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21931


Ain't that sweet...laugh
especially the No Planes Theory!
They can't even agree among themselves!rofl


I know!laugh Wonder how much Cimino needed to buy that little 4000 sq ft weekend get-away cottage he was salivating over?...
It didn't cost me a thing, My friend who I have known since grade school rented it. He lives in the suburbs and wished to give his kids a taste of country life.

I rented it one year due to my child's summer sports it made a little camping trip doable and one cannot put a price on family time away from TV's ,computers, and all life's distractions.

Have you raised a family?




Can you read?...I said Criminoslaphead Too funny!!!!!!rofl
I am not familiar with slang from the 1940's or 1950's would you be kind enough to provide an explanation?