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Edited by
Dodo_David
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Uh, might I point out the obvious?
Nobody is saying that it is wrong to boycott a business because of the religious beliefs of its owners. Calling for a boycott is a form of free speech. In the case of Chick-fil-A, elected public officials threatened to block the opening of Chick-fil-A restaurants because those officials disagree with the religious beliefs of Chick-fil-A's president. Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel and Boston mayor Thomas Menino are being criticized because those mayors are advocating a violation of the First Amendment by trying to prevent the opening of Chick-fil-A restaurants in their cities. Here is an excerpt from a Boston Globe editorial on the subject: But which part of the First Amendment does Menino not understand? A business owner’s political or religious beliefs should not be a test for the worthiness of his or her application for a business license.
Mother Jones writer Kevin Drum has written a rebuke of the mayors: . . . there’s really no excuse for Emanuel’s and Menino’s actions. If you don’t want to eat at Chick-fil-A, don’t eat there. If you want to picket them, go ahead. If they violate the law, go after them. But you don’t hand out business licenses based on whether you agree with the political views of the executives. Not in America, anyway.
The Los Angeles Times published an editorial criticizing Boston’s mayor: As both a private citizen and a prominent public figure, Menino is welcome to abstain from fried chicken sandwiches and urge others to do likewise.
It’s a different matter if he attempts to trample the free-speech rights of others by using the power of his office to fight against a business license for Chick-fil-A. Menino suggested that it would be appropriate to block the chain from opening in Boston because Cathy’s views amount to discrimination. That would rightly apply if Chick-fil-A were to refuse service to gay customers; the city has a right and an obligation to prevent discriminatory actions against its residents and visitors. But there’s no evidence that any such thing has occurred. Menino referred derisively to Chick-fil-A’s possible plans to open a restaurant along the city’s Freedom Trail, considering Cathy’s stand on marriage freedom. That too misreads law and history. It was the freedom to express politically unpopular views and to oppose such views that the Founding Fathers fought to establish. The Chicago Tribune published an editorial titled "Does Chicago value free speech?", in which the editors say the following: We think free speech is a Chicago value too. And it's a good thing because we're sure there are plenty of businesses in town run by people whose views are offensive to some. It's not up to the mayor or the alderman to decide which opinions are appropriate.
Chick-fil-A is known for its conservative Christian business culture. All of its restaurants are closed Sundays. But it doesn't refuse to serve same-sex couples. It doesn't have a heterosexuals-only hiring policy. We've seen no evidence that the company president's views about "biblical marriage" have translated into anti-gay policies. He's entitled to his opinion, and it's not up to the mayor or the alderman to silence them. |
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Gay, straight, bi, whatever, money is money. Why turn customers away by mixing business with politics? How studpid can you get? intelligence is not always tied to a profit focus there is also integrity, which often costs people money because it pays better to have no morals and just 'live and let live',,,,so noone is offended and integrity can also MAKE money from people who respect it, for instance, people who may now START to patronize Chick fil a BECAUSE of this particular stand remember, when we dont STAND for something, we fall for anything, and money should never blur our decisions I just don't see how marriage has anything to do with selling chicken sandwiches. Now if they were taking a stand on free range chicken or something like that, I can see how they may want to have a voice, but even then as a company the smart thing to do is not have a political voice. Now the individuals behind the company can do what they wish as individuals. |
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Why is the owner of Chick-Fil-A not entitled to his opinion? If he IS entitled to his opinion then people should let it be and if it bothers you that much just remember that you do not have to eat there. There is no reason for protests or anything else, when I am walking into a store and see the gaybow (rainbow) on the window I stop and turn around and do not go there. |
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Gay, straight, bi, whatever, money is money. Why turn customers away by mixing business with politics? How studpid can you get? intelligence is not always tied to a profit focus there is also integrity, which often costs people money because it pays better to have no morals and just 'live and let live',,,,so noone is offended and integrity can also MAKE money from people who respect it, for instance, people who may now START to patronize Chick fil a BECAUSE of this particular stand remember, when we dont STAND for something, we fall for anything, and money should never blur our decisions I just don't see how marriage has anything to do with selling chicken sandwiches. Now if they were taking a stand on free range chicken or something like that, I can see how they may want to have a voice, but even then as a company the smart thing to do is not have a political voice. Now the individuals behind the company can do what they wish as individuals. It doesn't have anything to do with selling sandwiches. The LGBT alliance is blowing it out of proportion. The mayors of the cities Boston, Chicago, San Francisco are discriminating based on their preferred lifestyle. I've been to both cities (not Chicago) and I won't go there again if this is what represents them. That is my right, and it is the LGBT right not to do business with them as well. |
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Gay, straight, bi, whatever, money is money. Why turn customers away by mixing business with politics? How studpid can you get? intelligence is not always tied to a profit focus there is also integrity, which often costs people money because it pays better to have no morals and just 'live and let live',,,,so noone is offended and integrity can also MAKE money from people who respect it, for instance, people who may now START to patronize Chick fil a BECAUSE of this particular stand remember, when we dont STAND for something, we fall for anything, and money should never blur our decisions I just don't see how marriage has anything to do with selling chicken sandwiches. Now if they were taking a stand on free range chicken or something like that, I can see how they may want to have a voice, but even then as a company the smart thing to do is not have a political voice. Now the individuals behind the company can do what they wish as individuals. It doesn't have anything to do with selling sandwiches. The LGBT alliance is blowing it out of proportion. The mayors of the cities Boston, Chicago, San Francisco are discriminating based on their preferred lifestyle. I've been to both cities (not Chicago) and I won't go there again if this is what represents them. That is my right, and it is the LGBT right not to do business with them as well. You just got done saying the gay community is blowing this out of proportion, yet you're going to boycott both cities? Isn't that blowing it out of proportion as well? |
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I am boycotting them because they are blowing it out of proportion. I won't support that stance.
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Well, ok! Whatever gets you through the night :).
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They need to let the citizens decide with their wallets rather they would be a viable franchise there or not.Not be a despot.
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so,since they are in Business they haven't got the right to voice an Opinion? Then the Boycotteers howl about DISCRIMINATION! I don't see it that way. The way I see it is that many people seem fine with the boycotting and being against the companies I listed above for not being bigots, yet they get upset when people stand up against what chick fil a thinks. YOU have no way of determining WHICH of those people who boycott the companies you've listed, would also "get upset when people stand up against what Chick-fil-A thinks". Rarely can you point to two people on this earth who are totally in agreement with all things protested. I realize that from interacting with those of my own family . Why is it ok to speak out against gay rights, but not for them? It may have a something to do with moral standards -and not necessarily from a religious standpoint. So don't go there. |
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Nobody boycotted Obama when he shared the same views as the owner of Chich-fil-a.
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so,since they are in Business they haven't got the right to voice an Opinion? Then the Boycotteers howl about DISCRIMINATION! I don't see it that way. The way I see it is that many people seem fine with the boycotting and being against the companies I listed above for not being bigots, yet they get upset when people stand up against what chick fil a thinks. YOU have no way of determining WHICH of those people who boycott the companies you've listed, would also "get upset when people stand up against what Chick-fil-A thinks". Rarely can you point to two people on this earth who are totally in agreement with all things protested. I realize that from interacting with those of my own family . Why is it ok to speak out against gay rights, but not for them? It may have a something to do with moral standards -and not necessarily from a religious standpoint. So don't go there. Why are you telling me not to go there? Not everyone is going to share the same morals you do. |
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I just don't see how marriage has anything to do with selling chicken sandwiches. Now if they were taking a stand on free range chicken or something like that, I can see how they may want to have a voice, but even then as a company the smart thing to do is not have a political voice. That's because homosexual chickens don't lay eggs. You can't stay in the chicken business that way..... |
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Nobody boycotted Obama when he shared the same views as the owner of Chich-fil-a. sure they do, its called not voting for him again people are boycotting him over all types of issues,,, and its their perogative with their vote as much as it is with their money,,,to spend it where they choose. |
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I just don't see how marriage has anything to do with selling chicken sandwiches. Now if they were taking a stand on free range chicken or something like that, I can see how they may want to have a voice, but even then as a company the smart thing to do is not have a political voice. That's because homosexual chickens don't lay eggs. You can't stay in the chicken business that way..... are you sure? homosexual humans sure seem to procreate,, considering its a preference and all and preferences can change throughout life,,,, |
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I just don't see how marriage has anything to do with selling chicken sandwiches. Now if they were taking a stand on free range chicken or something like that, I can see how they may want to have a voice, but even then as a company the smart thing to do is not have a political voice. That's because homosexual chickens don't lay eggs. You can't stay in the chicken business that way..... Thank you, now it all makes sense. |
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Are you sure? Msharmony just confused me....
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Nobody boycotted Obama when he shared the same views as the owner of Chich-fil-a. sure they do, its called not voting for him again people are boycotting him over all types of issues,,, and its their perogative with their vote as much as it is with their money,,,to spend it where they choose. Obama's views on gay marriage wasn't ever an issue. I don't recall Mayors of cities telling Obama he can't come to their city because of his views on gay marriage. |
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Nobody boycotted Obama when he shared the same views as the owner of Chich-fil-a. sure they do, its called not voting for him again people are boycotting him over all types of issues,,, and its their perogative with their vote as much as it is with their money,,,to spend it where they choose. Obama's views on gay marriage wasn't ever an issue. I don't recall Mayors of cities telling Obama he can't come to their city because of his views on gay marriage. they dont have the authority to ban the president, as far as that goes plus, the president was never firmly 'against' gay marriage, he always left it open for visitation and further evaluation,,,, |
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Edited by
CeriseRose
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Mon 07/30/12 06:25 AM
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Nobody boycotted Obama when he shared the same views as the owner of Chich-fil-a. Many were aware of the possibility of inconsistency. It was "a 'change' [they] could believe in!" |
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so,since they are in Business they haven't got the right to voice an Opinion? Then the Boycotteers howl about DISCRIMINATION! I don't see it that way. The way I see it is that many people seem fine with the boycotting and being against the companies I listed above for not being bigots, yet they get upset when people stand up against what chick fil a thinks. YOU have no way of determining WHICH of those people who boycott the companies you've listed, would also "get upset when people stand up against what Chick-fil-A thinks". Rarely can you point to two people on this earth who are totally in agreement with all things protested. I realize that from interacting with those of my own family . Why is it ok to speak out against gay rights, but not for them? It may have a something to do with moral standards -and not necessarily from a religious standpoint. So don't go there. Why are you telling me not to go there? Not everyone is going to share the same morals you do. Exactly! |
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