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Topic: The Lie That Should Sink Obama
msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/28/12 10:47 AM
yet another one! The Liberty and Freedom Foundation OBAMA CAUGHT IN AN OUTRIGHT LIE...SAYS HE DIDN'T RETURN BUST OF WINSTON CHURCHILL..UK GOVT SAYS HE ABSOLUTELY DID - Barack Obama has been caught in another lie he has told to cover up the shabby way he's treated our allied. This time it was the British Govt that called him out. With the London games going on the subject of Obama's slap in the face to England came up. Within days of taking the oval office he sent back the bust of Churchill given after 9/11. Yesterday he denied it, saying, "The bust still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room." GUESS WHAT...IT ISN'T. The British Embassy said this, “The new President decided not to continue this loan (given to America after 9/11) and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador’s Residence.“ BUSTED. Yet another Obama lie. Click like if you are SICK AND TIRED OF OBAMA LYING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, and also tired of the way he treats our allies, yet bows down to our enemies. by FB where can we click if we are tired of pointless and insignificant gossip? from abc news By Jake Tapper @jaketapper Find on FacebookFollow on Twitter Jul 27, 2012 4:32pm Is the Churchill Bust Controversy a Total Bust? Email 49 Smaller Font Text Larger Text \| Print Official White House Photo by Pete Souza There’s been much consternation today at the White House about a bust of Winston Churchill. A quote from conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer has ignited a fiery blog post from normally serene White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer. “Obama started his presidency by returning to the British Embassy the bust of Winston Churchill that had graced the Oval Office,” Krauthammer said in a column this week. Pfeiffer took to the White House blog to fact-check the assertion. ”This is 100 percent false,” Pfeiffer wrote. “The bust still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room.” Pfeiffer drew upon reports in National Journal in 2010 and the AP from 2011 noting that the busy was (as the National Journal recalled) “relocated to a prominent spot in the residence to make room for Abraham Lincoln, a figure from whom the first African-American occupant of the Oval Office might well draw inspiration in difficult times.” Get more pure politics at ABC News.com/Politics and a lighter take on the news at OTUSNews.com And just in case that was not enough, Pfeiffer provided a “picture of the president showing off the Churchill bust to Prime Minister Cameron when he visited the White House residence in 2010.” But here’s the thing. This was not some random rumor plucked from the ether. The assertion originally came from the British Embassy and from the White House. In February 2009, the British Embassy told The Telegraph that the bust “sits in the palatial residence of ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald … a British Embassy spokesman said: ‘The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W. Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship. It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the president was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009. The new president has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the ambassador’s residence.” Moreover, White House curator William Allman was quoted in a January 2010 story at CBSNews.com seeming to confirm the (allegedly “100% false”) information. “Some Britons took offense when Winston Churchill’s bust was replaced with King’s,” the story read. “But the decision to return the Churchill bust to the British – it had been presented by former Prime Minister Tony Blair to Bush on loan – had been made before Obama even arrived. ‘It was already scheduled to go back,’ Allman said.” So what gives? Like a plot twist in a sitcom, IT TURNS OUT THERE ARE TWO CHURCHILL BUSTS!!!!! The one in the White House residence was a gift to the White House from the British Embassy during the Johnson administration. The other one was loaned to President George W. Bush by British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sat 07/28/12 10:53 AM
yet another one! The Liberty and Freedom Foundation OBAMA CAUGHT IN AN OUTRIGHT LIE...SAYS HE DIDN'T RETURN BUST OF WINSTON CHURCHILL..UK GOVT SAYS HE ABSOLUTELY DID - Barack Obama has been caught in another lie he has told to cover up the shabby way he's treated our allied. This time it was the British Govt that called him out. With the London games going on the subject of Obama's slap in the face to England came up. Within days of taking the oval office he sent back the bust of Churchill given after 9/11. Yesterday he denied it, saying, "The bust still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room." GUESS WHAT...IT ISN'T. The British Embassy said this, “The new President decided not to continue this loan (given to America after 9/11) and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador’s Residence.“ BUSTED. Yet another Obama lie. Click like if you are SICK AND TIRED OF OBAMA LYING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, and also tired of the way he treats our allies, yet bows down to our enemies. by FB Click.....

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sat 07/28/12 10:54 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 07/28/12 11:11 AM
yet another one! The Liberty and Freedom Foundation OBAMA CAUGHT IN AN OUTRIGHT LIE...SAYS HE DIDN'T RETURN BUST OF WINSTON CHURCHILL..UK GOVT SAYS HE ABSOLUTELY DID - Barack Obama has been caught in another lie he has told to cover up the shabby way he's treated our allied. This time it was the British Govt that called him out. With the London games going on the subject of Obama's slap in the face to England came up. Within days of taking the oval office he sent back the bust of Churchill given after 9/11. Yesterday he denied it, saying, "The bust still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room." GUESS WHAT...IT ISN'T. The British Embassy said this, “The new President decided not to continue this loan (given to America after 9/11) and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the Ambassador’s Residence.“ BUSTED. Yet another Obama lie. Click like if you are SICK AND TIRED OF OBAMA LYING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, and also tired of the way he treats our allies, yet bows down to our enemies. by FB where can we click if we are tired of pointless and insignificant gossip? from abc news By Jake Tapper @jaketapper Find on FacebookFollow on Twitter Jul 27, 2012 4:32pm Is the Churchill Bust Controversy a Total Bust? Email 49 Smaller Font Text Larger Text \| Print Official White House Photo by Pete Souza There’s been much consternation today at the White House about a bust of Winston Churchill. A quote from conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer has ignited a fiery blog post from normally serene White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer. “Obama started his presidency by returning to the British Embassy the bust of Winston Churchill that had graced the Oval Office,” Krauthammer said in a column this week. Pfeiffer took to the White House blog to fact-check the assertion. ”This is 100 percent false,” Pfeiffer wrote. “The bust still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room.” Pfeiffer drew upon reports in National Journal in 2010 and the AP from 2011 noting that the busy was (as the National Journal recalled) “relocated to a prominent spot in the residence to make room for Abraham Lincoln, a figure from whom the first African-American occupant of the Oval Office might well draw inspiration in difficult times.” Get more pure politics at ABC News.com/Politics and a lighter take on the news at OTUSNews.com And just in case that was not enough, Pfeiffer provided a “picture of the president showing off the Churchill bust to Prime Minister Cameron when he visited the White House residence in 2010.” But here’s the thing. This was not some random rumor plucked from the ether. The assertion originally came from the British Embassy and from the White House. In February 2009, the British Embassy told The Telegraph that the bust “sits in the palatial residence of ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald … a British Embassy spokesman said: ‘The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W. Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship. It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the president was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009. The new president has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the ambassador’s residence.” Moreover, White House curator William Allman was quoted in a January 2010 story at CBSNews.com seeming to confirm the (allegedly “100% false”) information. “Some Britons took offense when Winston Churchill’s bust was replaced with King’s,” the story read. “But the decision to return the Churchill bust to the British – it had been presented by former Prime Minister Tony Blair to Bush on loan – had been made before Obama even arrived. ‘It was already scheduled to go back,’ Allman said.” So what gives? Like a plot twist in a sitcom, IT TURNS OUT THERE ARE TWO CHURCHILL BUSTS!!!!! The one in the White House residence was a gift to the White House from the British Embassy during the Johnson administration. The other one was loaned to President George W. Bush by British Prime Minister Tony Blair. so there are Two Winnies! Yep,checked it out,there are two of them!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 07/28/12 11:25 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 07/28/12 11:25 AM
Romney saying he isnt concerned about the very poor will piss off some people who are very poor In a way, Romney is right. The very poor will not see too much changing when the rich and the upper middle class and the middle class start feeling the crunch. The very poor, the homeless, etc. don't have a lot to lose. Especially the homeless. They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters... but that's when things have gotten really bad.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sat 07/28/12 11:27 AM
Romney saying he isnt concerned about the very poor will piss off some people who are very poor In a way, Romney is right. The very poor will not see too much changing when the rich and the upper middle class and the middle class start feeling the crunch. The very poor, the homeless, etc. don't have a lot to lose. Especially the homeless. They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters... but that's when things have gotten really bad.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/28/12 11:30 AM
Romney saying he isnt concerned about the very poor will piss off some people who are very poor In a way, Romney is right. The very poor will not see too much changing when the rich and the upper middle class and the middle class start feeling the crunch. The very poor, the homeless, etc. don't have a lot to lose. Especially the homeless. They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters... but that's when things have gotten really bad. dignity and hope are alot to loose but you are right, either statement could be equally 'adapted' to fit a reasonable explanation,,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 07/28/12 11:33 AM
Romney saying he isnt concerned about the very poor will piss off some people who are very poor In a way, Romney is right. The very poor will not see too much changing when the rich and the upper middle class and the middle class start feeling the crunch. The very poor, the homeless, etc. don't have a lot to lose. Especially the homeless. They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters... but that's when things have gotten really bad. dignity and hope are alot to loose but you are right, either statement could be equally 'adapted' to fit a reasonable explanation,,, If you lose your dignity and hope, you have no one to blame but yourself. There is always hope. You can always keep your dignity. That is a choice.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/28/12 11:35 AM
Romney saying he isnt concerned about the very poor will piss off some people who are very poor In a way, Romney is right. The very poor will not see too much changing when the rich and the upper middle class and the middle class start feeling the crunch. The very poor, the homeless, etc. don't have a lot to lose. Especially the homeless. They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters... but that's when things have gotten really bad. dignity and hope are alot to loose but you are right, either statement could be equally 'adapted' to fit a reasonable explanation,,, If you lose your dignity and hope, you have no one to blame but yourself. There is always hope. You can always keep your dignity. That is a choice. as is building a business, but you dont necessarily do that alone either its a choice, still doesnt mean those with the 'choices' dont want to feel like their president CARES about their challenges and concerns,,,

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 07/28/12 11:37 AM
They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters Gives new meaning to trickle down economics.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 07/28/12 11:40 AM
They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters Gives new meaning to trickle down economics. new meaning, but still trash all the same... trickle has barely been DRIPPING if we look at how much the top income is increasing compared to that of those under waiting for that 'trickle'

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sat 07/28/12 11:42 AM
They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters Gives new meaning to trickle down economics. Hi cutie pie.

Optomistic69 Joined Mon 10/10/11 Posts: 5173	Sat 07/28/12 12:05 PM
They might find less stuff being thrown away in the dumpsters Gives new meaning to trickle down economics. Hi cutie pie. Hello Dare.