Topic: D-Day for gun owners! Sign the pledge NOW!
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 07/25/12 06:41 AM

Pledge your opposition to Ice Queen/Obozo UN small Arms Treaty!

http://www.nagr.org/UNTreaty_Pledge1.aspx?pid=4b

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 07/25/12 06:55 AM

Unanswered questions about Colorado....Part of the agenda to pass it?

http://www.wxix.com/story/19104797/reality-check-unanswered-questions-about-colorado-theater-massacre

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 07/25/12 06:58 AM
I don't own a weapon because I don't feel vulnerable.

With the continued assaults on our liberties, I'm thinking it might be time.

Looking at a Glock 40 or M19a1 army pistol, 45 cal. What do you think?

TJN's photo
Wed 07/25/12 07:07 AM

I don't own a weapon because I don't feel vulnerable.

With the continued assaults on our liberties, I'm thinking it might be time.

Looking at a Glock 40 or M19a1 army pistol, 45 cal. What do you think?

Go to a dealer take a class shoot both of them and choose the one you feel more comfortable with.

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 07/25/12 07:10 AM
I am used to the army pistol, but heard Glock 40 was good and it is still of a sufficient caliber to drop someone if necessary. I think a lot of police have them.

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Wed 07/25/12 08:43 AM

I don't own a weapon because I don't feel vulnerable.

With the continued assaults on our liberties, I'm thinking it might be time.

Looking at a Glock 40 or M19a1 army pistol, 45 cal. What do you think?


army issue 45's are in the $2000 dollar range and will not fire hollow point rounds. replicas can get down to around the $500 dollar range and will fire hollow point or metal jacket rounds. for home defense the hollow point is preferred. the metal jacket rounds usually pass straight through leaving little damage. the hollow point will get the message across

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Wed 07/25/12 11:59 AM



Signed,sealed and $100.00 well spent.....I hope

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 07/25/12 12:01 PM


I don't own a weapon because I don't feel vulnerable.

With the continued assaults on our liberties, I'm thinking it might be time.

Looking at a Glock 40 or M19a1 army pistol, 45 cal. What do you think?


army issue 45's are in the $2000 dollar range and will not fire hollow point rounds. replicas can get down to around the $500 dollar range and will fire hollow point or metal jacket rounds. for home defense the hollow point is preferred. the metal jacket rounds usually pass straight through leaving little damage. the hollow point will get the message across


Thanks ese

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Wed 07/25/12 12:03 PM
If you have firearms, I wouldn't recomend stating that in a public forum.

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Wed 07/25/12 12:09 PM
July 24, 2012
Manchin: U.N. gun ban treaty ‘craziness’

By Mannix Porterfield For the Daily Telegraph The Bluefield Daily Telegraph Tue Jul 24, 2012, 02:28 PM EDT

CHARLESTON — Any attempt to disarm individual Americans in a yet-not-finalized United Nations Arms Trade Treaty would be “craziness” and doomed to failure on Capitol Hill, Sen. Joe Manchin vowed Thursday.

A lifelong hunter and gun owner himself, Manchin responded to mushrooming fears spread across the Internet of late that the proposed treat ultimately could erase the 2nd Amendment guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms.

Among groups raising the warning flag has been the National Rifle Association, whose president, Wayne LaPierre, says Americans oppose the UN “acting as a global nanny with a global permission slip stating whether they can own a gun or not.”

Manchin acknowledged that he, likewise, harbors concerns over the pending treaty, particularly with regard to the U.S. Constitution’s protection of gun owners.

But the freshman senator, who owns a perfect NRA voting record, said any such treaty proposal, which must pass muster in the U.S. Senate, would be summarily shot down when it appears for a vote.

“There are enough of us Democrats working with Republicans to make sure this type of craziness doesn’t happen,” he said.

“And it would be craziness. But I don’t think that’s going to happen.”

On the other hand, Manchin said senators are serious enough to want to see if it is possible to keep rogue nations from fueling terrorism with firearms.

Former President George W. Bush opposed an effort in 2006 to jump-start the treaty process, but President Obama wasted no time in reversing that policy by deciding the United States would take part in the negotiations.

LaPierre criticized the process as one that would punish law-abiding American citizens and do little to keep guns out of the hands of despots.

“If you’re the government, you get the guns,” the NRA leader said.

“If you’re a civilian, you don’t. But this will just end up helping evil governments and tyrants.”

Manchin and a dozen, in an earlier letter to Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, voiced opposition to any potential caveats in the treaty that would infringe on 2nd Amendment rights.

“We support efforts to better regulate the international trade of conventional weapons, but such efforts must be done in a responsible manner,” the senators said.

“We should do everything we can to ensure these weapons do not end up in the hands of human rights abusers, terrorist groups, insurgents or organized criminal enterprises.”

The group said the treaty must not “in any way regulate the domestic manufacture, possession, or sales of firearms or ammunition,” since these rights are contained in the U.S. Constitution.

“We also oppose any inclusion of small arms, light weapons, ammunition, or related materials that would make the treaty overly broad and virtually unenforceable,” they said.

Besides the NRA, other gun groups lately have been on social networks and elsewhere, warning about the UN treaty.

“There’s a concern, yes,” Manchin said in a telephone interview.

“Yes, you have to have a better regulation in the international trade of weapons, but you don’t sacrifice our rights as law-abiding Americans and enter into a treaty where we have to reciprocate and do certain things within our own country that will be detrimental to our credence.”


http://bdtonline.com/latest/x1841410651/Manchin-U-N-gun-ban-treaty-craziness

Can't hurt to keep those Guys in DC on their Toes!


Treaty might spell the end of our already cropped Gunrights here in Switzerland,since they quietly removed the Article about the Right to own Arms during the last Total-Revision of our Constitution,and it seems it escaped our Watchers!

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Wed 07/25/12 12:26 PM

I am used to the army pistol, but heard Glock 40 was good and it is still of a sufficient caliber to drop someone if necessary. I think a lot of police have them.
the glock is a very good gun, BUT be very careful, some of them do NOT have safeties..

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Wed 07/25/12 10:02 PM


I am used to the army pistol, but heard Glock 40 was good and it is still of a sufficient caliber to drop someone if necessary. I think a lot of police have them.
the glock is a very good gun, BUT be very careful, some of them do NOT have safeties..


Good to know.

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Wed 07/25/12 10:02 PM

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Wed 07/25/12 10:11 PM
Rugerdrinker

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Sat 07/28/12 03:39 PM

Ben Swann Reality Check

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DbDueBuIY6g