Topic: Why Ireland supports Palestine...
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Tue 06/19/12 05:44 PM

I will cut to the chase.

Has the government of the nation of Ireland enacted an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?

Northern Ireland - a member of the United Kingdom - is generally divided into two groups of people, those who are nominally Catholic and those who are nominally Protestant. So, are members of both groups Irish? If so, then do you have evidence that both groups favor Palestinians?

Also, being that it is a part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland's official foreign policy that of the British government. So, does the British government have an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?




I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enacting official foreign policy that favors Palestinians"...What does religion have to do with being Irish?...Did you read my OP?...The topic is about exploring the depth and the cause of the anti-Israel hatred that exists in Ireland today...

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Tue 06/19/12 07:37 PM
Why focus on Ireland? Because of the Rothchild Zionist agenda, anti-Israel hatred is growing world wide.

Zionism is the worst enemy of the Jewish people. <----google that


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Tue 06/19/12 08:27 PM


I will cut to the chase.

Has the government of the nation of Ireland enacted an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?

Northern Ireland - a member of the United Kingdom - is generally divided into two groups of people, those who are nominally Catholic and those who are nominally Protestant. So, are members of both groups Irish? If so, then do you have evidence that both groups favor Palestinians?

Also, being that it is a part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland's official foreign policy that of the British government. So, does the British government have an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?




I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enacting official foreign policy that favors Palestinians"...What does religion have to do with being Irish?...Did you read my OP?...The topic is about exploring the depth and the cause of the anti-Israel hatred that exists in Ireland today...


Who exactly in the nation of Ireland is anti-Israel? It is the government? Is anti-Israel thought shared by the majority of Ireland's citizens?

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Tue 06/19/12 11:07 PM
Read the earlier part of the thread.

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Wed 06/20/12 12:52 AM


Kevin Myers is a self hating Irshman.....: laugh laugh laugh laugh


laugh

I used to be a lot more critical of Israel, and I used to believe there was a fairly simple two-state solution, because I used to believe the Arabs were acting in good faith. I still want to believe that, but the evidence tells me I'd be a fool to believe it, because I've seen that every concession Israel makes is met with more demands and more excuses not to negotiate. They could have had peace ten times over if they wanted it, but they don't want peace, they want victory, and they won't be happy until Israel is wiped from the map. A member of Fatah central committee said as much on television recently, but as he said, they keep that to themselves, and tell the rest of the world a different story.

- Pat Condell, The great Palestinian lie (October 6, 2011; from YouTube), responding to a statement by Abbas Zaki.

Despite what the Palestinian public-relations industry, i.e. the western media might tell you, this isn't about territory, and it isn't about justice or human rights, because Arab societies don't know the meanings of those words. It's about Jew-hatred, as mandated by the Qur'an, and as preached in the mosques and taught to the children in Arab countries, day in and day out, generation after poisoned generation. The Arabs don't hate Jews because of Israel. They hate Israel because of Jews.

All you good-hearted western liberals who keep banging the drum for the poor Palestinians; I sympathize with you, because you're doing it for the right reason. But you're being exploited, just as the people in the West Bank and Gaza are being exploited, by people who have no intention of negotiating peace, because they're driven primarily by crude, irrational religious hatred. When you protest for Palestine, you know you'll be in the company of people calling for Jews to be gassed. Do you think that's an accident? You're dealing with something here beyond politics, and beyond reason - something truly ugly that drives a spike through all your cozy left-right assumptions. And your naivety is helping to stoke it, like bellows to a fire.

-Pat Condell

The great Palestinian lie (October 6, 2011; from YouTube)
seems they gone PC at YouTube!

Video Unavailable!

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Wed 06/20/12 03:59 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Wed 06/20/12 04:22 AM

Why focus on Ireland? Because of the Rothchild Zionist agenda, anti-Israel hatred is growing world wide.

Zionism is the worst enemy of the Jewish people. <----google that




Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda, it's not about growing anti-Israel hatred world wide... My thread is about the overwhelming amount of anti-semitism and the anti-Israel bias and hatred that has existed in Ireland for many decades....Participitation is NOT mandatory J...

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Wed 06/20/12 04:03 AM



I will cut to the chase.

Has the government of the nation of Ireland enacted an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?

Northern Ireland - a member of the United Kingdom - is generally divided into two groups of people, those who are nominally Catholic and those who are nominally Protestant. So, are members of both groups Irish? If so, then do you have evidence that both groups favor Palestinians?

Also, being that it is a part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland's official foreign policy that of the British government. So, does the British government have an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?




I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enacting official foreign policy that favors Palestinians"...What does religion have to do with being Irish?...Did you read my OP?...The topic is about exploring the depth and the cause of the anti-Israel hatred that exists in Ireland today...


Who exactly in the nation of Ireland is anti-Israel? It is the government? Is anti-Israel thought shared by the majority of Ireland's citizens?


These questions have been answered (some more than once) in previous posts....If you forgot, look them up and re-read them....:smile:

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Wed 06/20/12 04:05 AM



I will cut to the chase.

Has the government of the nation of Ireland enacted an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?

Northern Ireland - a member of the United Kingdom - is generally divided into two groups of people, those who are nominally Catholic and those who are nominally Protestant. So, are members of both groups Irish? If so, then do you have evidence that both groups favor Palestinians?

Also, being that it is a part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland's official foreign policy that of the British government. So, does the British government have an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?




I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enacting official foreign policy that favors Palestinians"...What does religion have to do with being Irish?...Did you read my OP?...The topic is about exploring the depth and the cause of the anti-Israel hatred that exists in Ireland today...


Who exactly in the nation of Ireland is anti-Israel? It is the government? Is anti-Israel thought shared by the majority of Ireland's citizens?


To answer your question Honestly Dodo, the people of Ireland are no different to Americans.

A percentage of the population feel that Israel are the main aggressors in Palestine and a percentage of people feel that the Palestinians are the Aggressors .

As to Northern Ireland, there is a division of support between Catholics and Protestants.

The Protestants for the most part support Israel

The Catholics for the most part support Palestinians.

The Conflict in Northern Ireland is very similar to the Conflict in Palestine.

Both Conflicts are about Land not Religion.

Protestants and Catholics are Christians but as America stand squarely behind Israel, The British stand squarely behind Protestants .

The British have apologized to the Irish People,

it is now time that America came clean and apologized to the Palestinians for the lopsided approach to the Palestinian conflict.

The Time for Empires has expired.




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Wed 06/20/12 04:17 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Wed 06/20/12 04:25 AM




I will cut to the chase.

Has the government of the nation of Ireland enacted an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?

Northern Ireland - a member of the United Kingdom - is generally divided into two groups of people, those who are nominally Catholic and those who are nominally Protestant. So, are members of both groups Irish? If so, then do you have evidence that both groups favor Palestinians?

Also, being that it is a part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland's official foreign policy that of the British government. So, does the British government have an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?




I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enacting official foreign policy that favors Palestinians"...What does religion have to do with being Irish?...Did you read my OP?...The topic is about exploring the depth and the cause of the anti-Israel hatred that exists in Ireland today...


Who exactly in the nation of Ireland is anti-Israel? It is the government? Is anti-Israel thought shared by the majority of Ireland's citizens?


To answer your question Honestly Dodo, the people of Ireland are no different to Americans.

A percentage of the population feel that Israel are the main aggressors in Palestine and a percentage of people feel that the Palestinians are the Aggressors .

As to Northern Ireland, there is a division of support between Catholics and Protestants.

The Protestants for the most part support Israel

The Catholics for the most part support Palestinians.

The Conflict in Northern Ireland is very similar to the Conflict in Palestine.

Both Conflicts are about Land not Religion.

Protestants and Catholics are Christians but as America stand squarely behind Israel, The British stand squarely behind Protestants .

The British have apologized to the Irish People,

it is now time that America came clean and apologized to the Palestinians for the lopsided approach to the Palestinian conflict.

The Time for Empires has expired.






What percentage and why exactly would anyone support terrorists?

From what I gather, the hatred and anti-Israel sentiiment working in Ireland is not exclusive to any religious or political group...That's what makes it so interesting...

Yes, as J pointed out, one of the reasons anti-semitism is so strong in Ireand is because many identify with the Palestinians and consider them to be the underdog in the conflict between Palestine and Israel...


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Wed 06/20/12 04:31 AM


Why focus on Ireland? Because of the Rothchild Zionist agenda, anti-Israel hatred is growing world wide.

Zionism is the worst enemy of the Jewish people. <----google that




Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda, it's not about growing anti-Israel hatred world wide... My thread is about the overwhelming amount of anti-semitism and the anti-Israel bias and hatred that has existed in Ireland for many decades....Participitation is NOT mandatory J...
Funny how they always dust off and resurrect the Jews whenever it suits them,and on other occasions flatly claim that there are no such things a Jews!rofl

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Wed 06/20/12 04:43 AM



Why focus on Ireland? Because of the Rothchild Zionist agenda, anti-Israel hatred is growing world wide.

Zionism is the worst enemy of the Jewish people. <----google that




Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda, it's not about growing anti-Israel hatred world wide... My thread is about the overwhelming amount of anti-semitism and the anti-Israel bias and hatred that has existed in Ireland for many decades....Participitation is NOT mandatory J...
Funny how they always dust off and resurrect the Jews whenever it suits them,and on other occasions flatly claim that there are no such things a Jews!rofl


Funny, but not surprising....waving

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Wed 06/20/12 11:19 AM





I will cut to the chase.

Has the government of the nation of Ireland enacted an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?

Northern Ireland - a member of the United Kingdom - is generally divided into two groups of people, those who are nominally Catholic and those who are nominally Protestant. So, are members of both groups Irish? If so, then do you have evidence that both groups favor Palestinians?

Also, being that it is a part of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland's official foreign policy that of the British government. So, does the British government have an official foreign policy that favors Palestinians?




I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enacting official foreign policy that favors Palestinians"...What does religion have to do with being Irish?...Did you read my OP?...The topic is about exploring the depth and the cause of the anti-Israel hatred that exists in Ireland today...


Who exactly in the nation of Ireland is anti-Israel? It is the government? Is anti-Israel thought shared by the majority of Ireland's citizens?


To answer your question Honestly Dodo, the people of Ireland are no different to Americans.

A percentage of the population feel that Israel are the main aggressors in Palestine and a percentage of people feel that the Palestinians are the Aggressors .

As to Northern Ireland, there is a division of support between Catholics and Protestants.

The Protestants for the most part support Israel

The Catholics for the most part support Palestinians.

The Conflict in Northern Ireland is very similar to the Conflict in Palestine.

Both Conflicts are about Land not Religion.

Protestants and Catholics are Christians but as America stand squarely behind Israel, The British stand squarely behind Protestants .

The British have apologized to the Irish People,

it is now time that America came clean and apologized to the Palestinians for the lopsided approach to the Palestinian conflict.

The Time for Empires has expired.






What percentage and why exactly would anyone support terrorists?

From what I gather, the hatred and anti-Israel sentiiment working in Ireland is not exclusive to any religious or political group...That's what makes it so interesting...

Yes, as J pointed out, one of the reasons anti-semitism is so strong in Ireand is because many identify with the Palestinians and consider them to be the underdog in the conflict between Palestine and Israel...





Not correct.

I said that Ireland more than likely, recognize the evil Cabal that is operating in Israel. They have fought against this same evil for centuries.

You can know them BY THEIR DEEDS. Not by what religion they claim to be and not by what who they claim to be. In short, they LIE about that.


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Wed 06/20/12 11:27 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 06/20/12 11:29 AM


Why focus on Ireland? Because of the Rothchild Zionist agenda, anti-Israel hatred is growing world wide.

Zionism is the worst enemy of the Jewish people. <----google that




Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda, it's not about growing anti-Israel hatred world wide... My thread is about the overwhelming amount of anti-semitism and the anti-Israel bias and hatred that has existed in Ireland for many decades....Participitation is NOT mandatory J...


Everything is connected Leigh.

When you attempt to isolate a single problem and refuse to look at the big picture, that is when things begin to get distorted and understanding goes out the window.

That is when you create problems instead of understanding and/or working towards solving them.


Funny how they always dust off and resurrect the Jews whenever it suits them,and on other occasions flatly claim that there are no such things a Jews!rofl


Conrad rolling head:

For lack of a better label, call them "Jews" if you want.

But the "Jewish people" as painted via the three Abrahamic religions are pure fiction. They were invented.

But don't confuse the good Jewish people who don't know who they are with the Criminal Cabal who are hiding among them and calling themselves Jews.

Don't confuse the masters with their slaves.


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Wed 06/20/12 11:47 AM



Why focus on Ireland? Because of the Rothchild Zionist agenda, anti-Israel hatred is growing world wide.

Zionism is the worst enemy of the Jewish people. <----google that




Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda, it's not about growing anti-Israel hatred world wide... My thread is about the overwhelming amount of anti-semitism and the anti-Israel bias and hatred that has existed in Ireland for many decades....Participitation is NOT mandatory J...


Everything is connected Leigh.

When you attempt to isolate a single problem and refuse to look at the big picture, that is when things begin to get distorted and understanding goes out the window.

That is when you create problems instead of understanding and/or working towards solving them.


Funny how they always dust off and resurrect the Jews whenever it suits them,and on other occasions flatly claim that there are no such things a Jews!rofl


Conrad rolling head:

For lack of a better label, call them "Jews" if you want.

But the "Jewish people" as painted via the three Abrahamic religions are pure fiction. They were invented.

But don't confuse the good Jewish people who don't know who they are with the Criminal Cabal who are hiding among them and calling themselves Jews.

Don't confuse the masters with their slaves.

offtopic


offtopic

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Wed 06/20/12 12:05 PM
Don't confuse the masters with their slaves

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Wed 06/20/12 12:07 PM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Wed 06/20/12 12:12 PM
“The British government have promised that what is called the Zionist

movement
shall have a fair chance in this country, and the British

Government will do what is necessary to secure that fair chance...We

cannot tolerate the expropriation of one set of people by another or

the violent trampling down of one set of national ideals for the sake of erecting another...”
Winston S. Churchill to an Arab delegation, 30 March 1921.[1]

“I do not admit that the dog in the manger has the final right to the manger, even though he may have lain there for a very long time...I do not admit, for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia...I do not think the Red Indians had any right to say, ‘The American Continent belongs to us and we are not going to have any of these European settlers coming in here’. They had not the right, nor had they the power.”

Winston S. Churchill to the Peel Commission on Palestine, 12th March 1937.[2]


The British in Ireland and The British in Palestine.

Ireland is a tiny country and The British divided it.

The British Enforce a Divided Ireland

and

America Enforce a Divided Palestine


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Wed 06/20/12 12:20 PM
Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda...



Ummmm....Yes baby.....it is.




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Wed 06/20/12 12:27 PM



Why focus on Ireland? Because of the Rothchild Zionist agenda, anti-Israel hatred is growing world wide.

Zionism is the worst enemy of the Jewish people. <----google that




Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda, it's not about growing anti-Israel hatred world wide... My thread is about the overwhelming amount of anti-semitism and the anti-Israel bias and hatred that has existed in Ireland for many decades....Participitation is NOT mandatory J...


Everything is connected Leigh.

When you attempt to isolate a single problem and refuse to look at the big picture, that is when things begin to get distorted and understanding goes out the window.

That is when you create problems instead of understanding and/or working towards solving them.


Funny how they always dust off and resurrect the Jews whenever it suits them,and on other occasions flatly claim that there are no such things a Jews!rofl


Conrad rolling head:

For lack of a better label, call them "Jews" if you want.

But the "Jewish people" as painted via the three Abrahamic religions are pure fiction. They were invented.

But don't confuse the good Jewish people who don't know who they are with the Criminal Cabal who are hiding among them and calling themselves Jews.

Don't confuse the masters with their slaves.




Why would you assume I am isolating a single problem just because I started a thread about a major problem within the BIG PIC J?....IMO Irish anti-semitism is a good topic because it is so extreme ...I feel strongly that, for some of us, discussing it might lead to better understanding of the "Big Picture"....Actually, I see the Irish bias and hatred toward Israel as "creating" problems...

You are wrong to state that I am isolating a single problem,but you are correct when you say the Irish bias and hatred toward Israel is part of the problem....This week I chose to start a thread about Ireland's extremely strong support for Palestine, next week I might choose something entirely different.....:smile:

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Wed 06/20/12 12:33 PM



Kevin Myers is a self hating Irshman.....: laugh laugh laugh laugh


laugh

I used to be a lot more critical of Israel, and I used to believe there was a fairly simple two-state solution, because I used to believe the Arabs were acting in good faith. I still want to believe that, but the evidence tells me I'd be a fool to believe it, because I've seen that every concession Israel makes is met with more demands and more excuses not to negotiate. They could have had peace ten times over if they wanted it, but they don't want peace, they want victory, and they won't be happy until Israel is wiped from the map. A member of Fatah central committee said as much on television recently, but as he said, they keep that to themselves, and tell the rest of the world a different story.

- Pat Condell, The great Palestinian lie (October 6, 2011; from YouTube), responding to a statement by Abbas Zaki.

Despite what the Palestinian public-relations industry, i.e. the western media might tell you, this isn't about territory, and it isn't about justice or human rights, because Arab societies don't know the meanings of those words. It's about Jew-hatred, as mandated by the Qur'an, and as preached in the mosques and taught to the children in Arab countries, day in and day out, generation after poisoned generation. The Arabs don't hate Jews because of Israel. They hate Israel because of Jews.

All you good-hearted western liberals who keep banging the drum for the poor Palestinians; I sympathize with you, because you're doing it for the right reason. But you're being exploited, just as the people in the West Bank and Gaza are being exploited, by people who have no intention of negotiating peace, because they're driven primarily by crude, irrational religious hatred. When you protest for Palestine, you know you'll be in the company of people calling for Jews to be gassed. Do you think that's an accident? You're dealing with something here beyond politics, and beyond reason - something truly ugly that drives a spike through all your cozy left-right assumptions. And your naivety is helping to stoke it, like bellows to a fire.

-Pat Condell

The great Palestinian lie (October 6, 2011; from YouTube)
seems they gone PC at YouTube!

Video Unavailable!


OK let's retry that...there - that should work now.

http://youtu.be/j1N1zhUm84w

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Wed 06/20/12 12:33 PM

Why not focus on Ireland?...My thread is not about the Rothchilds, it's not about their agenda...



Ummmm....Yes baby.....it is.







Are you ridiculing me again J?.....:tongue: