Topic: Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet
msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 01:09 PM

















IT is. Two interesting things, in fact.

The first is what caused the choice of Kenya. The second is what educated person could state in one sentence someone was born in Kenya but in the next call them an African American,,,,,

Im pretty sure Kenya is not part of America


his mother is an american, that gives him citizenship regardless



it gives him citizenship at birth , being born to an american woman, thats true




yes, so why did he lie about being born in Hawaii? or at least show the real BC to shut everyone up... thats one of his biggest problems, not letting people know he's on the peoples side...



I dont know of any evidence that he 'lied' about where he was born. There are official documents of him being born in Hawaii. I dont know where any lie has been proven.


i think he should just squash it once and for all, and just tell the truth, for once...



I dont think he should waste his energy,, there will never be ENOUGH proof for those who believe in the birth conspiracy,,,


i disagree... they already showed us a lie on this, fueling us even more... if he cared, he would just tell the truth... i don't think being born in kenya would disqualify him from being president, but his lies will... i can't give him any respect while he keeps spouting off lies...



who showed us a lie? what lie were we shown?


they have proved his last BC was a fake, just a few months ago....


no,, 'they' didnt

they proved that OBAMA Never submitted anything to that state

it was repeatedly reported as some admission that the document was a 'fake'....





yes, they proved it was a fake... 10 layers deep and not a fake? just more of his lies... but i am starting to wonder if obama is just following the wrong people... kind of seems that way, that we are being tested to see how far they can "push" us, or seeing what they can get away with for their own personal gains... but if so, obama will be the fall guy for it...



who 'proved' it was 10 layers deep and what does that have to do with 'fake'?


mightymoe's photo
Fri 05/18/12 01:15 PM


















IT is. Two interesting things, in fact.

The first is what caused the choice of Kenya. The second is what educated person could state in one sentence someone was born in Kenya but in the next call them an African American,,,,,

Im pretty sure Kenya is not part of America


his mother is an american, that gives him citizenship regardless



it gives him citizenship at birth , being born to an american woman, thats true




yes, so why did he lie about being born in Hawaii? or at least show the real BC to shut everyone up... thats one of his biggest problems, not letting people know he's on the peoples side...



I dont know of any evidence that he 'lied' about where he was born. There are official documents of him being born in Hawaii. I dont know where any lie has been proven.


i think he should just squash it once and for all, and just tell the truth, for once...



I dont think he should waste his energy,, there will never be ENOUGH proof for those who believe in the birth conspiracy,,,


i disagree... they already showed us a lie on this, fueling us even more... if he cared, he would just tell the truth... i don't think being born in kenya would disqualify him from being president, but his lies will... i can't give him any respect while he keeps spouting off lies...



who showed us a lie? what lie were we shown?


they have proved his last BC was a fake, just a few months ago....


no,, 'they' didnt

they proved that OBAMA Never submitted anything to that state

it was repeatedly reported as some admission that the document was a 'fake'....





yes, they proved it was a fake... 10 layers deep and not a fake? just more of his lies... but i am starting to wonder if obama is just following the wrong people... kind of seems that way, that we are being tested to see how far they can "push" us, or seeing what they can get away with for their own personal gains... but if so, obama will be the fall guy for it...



who 'proved' it was 10 layers deep and what does that have to do with 'fake'?




the new jersey courts... they already ruled on it

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 01:37 PM



















IT is. Two interesting things, in fact.

The first is what caused the choice of Kenya. The second is what educated person could state in one sentence someone was born in Kenya but in the next call them an African American,,,,,

Im pretty sure Kenya is not part of America


his mother is an american, that gives him citizenship regardless



it gives him citizenship at birth , being born to an american woman, thats true




yes, so why did he lie about being born in Hawaii? or at least show the real BC to shut everyone up... thats one of his biggest problems, not letting people know he's on the peoples side...



I dont know of any evidence that he 'lied' about where he was born. There are official documents of him being born in Hawaii. I dont know where any lie has been proven.


i think he should just squash it once and for all, and just tell the truth, for once...



I dont think he should waste his energy,, there will never be ENOUGH proof for those who believe in the birth conspiracy,,,


i disagree... they already showed us a lie on this, fueling us even more... if he cared, he would just tell the truth... i don't think being born in kenya would disqualify him from being president, but his lies will... i can't give him any respect while he keeps spouting off lies...



who showed us a lie? what lie were we shown?


they have proved his last BC was a fake, just a few months ago....


no,, 'they' didnt

they proved that OBAMA Never submitted anything to that state

it was repeatedly reported as some admission that the document was a 'fake'....





yes, they proved it was a fake... 10 layers deep and not a fake? just more of his lies... but i am starting to wonder if obama is just following the wrong people... kind of seems that way, that we are being tested to see how far they can "push" us, or seeing what they can get away with for their own personal gains... but if so, obama will be the fall guy for it...



who 'proved' it was 10 layers deep and what does that have to do with 'fake'?




the new jersey courts... they already ruled on it


the courts didnt rule on the authenticity of his documents

I Believe you are mistaken

they ruled on his status as natural born citizen

'http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/new-jersey-court-finds-obama-natural-born-citizen-chastises-apuzzo-for-his-common-law-claim/

mightymoe's photo
Fri 05/18/12 01:45 PM




















IT is. Two interesting things, in fact.

The first is what caused the choice of Kenya. The second is what educated person could state in one sentence someone was born in Kenya but in the next call them an African American,,,,,

Im pretty sure Kenya is not part of America


his mother is an american, that gives him citizenship regardless



it gives him citizenship at birth , being born to an american woman, thats true




yes, so why did he lie about being born in Hawaii? or at least show the real BC to shut everyone up... thats one of his biggest problems, not letting people know he's on the peoples side...



I dont know of any evidence that he 'lied' about where he was born. There are official documents of him being born in Hawaii. I dont know where any lie has been proven.


i think he should just squash it once and for all, and just tell the truth, for once...



I dont think he should waste his energy,, there will never be ENOUGH proof for those who believe in the birth conspiracy,,,


i disagree... they already showed us a lie on this, fueling us even more... if he cared, he would just tell the truth... i don't think being born in kenya would disqualify him from being president, but his lies will... i can't give him any respect while he keeps spouting off lies...



who showed us a lie? what lie were we shown?


they have proved his last BC was a fake, just a few months ago....


no,, 'they' didnt

they proved that OBAMA Never submitted anything to that state

it was repeatedly reported as some admission that the document was a 'fake'....





yes, they proved it was a fake... 10 layers deep and not a fake? just more of his lies... but i am starting to wonder if obama is just following the wrong people... kind of seems that way, that we are being tested to see how far they can "push" us, or seeing what they can get away with for their own personal gains... but if so, obama will be the fall guy for it...



who 'proved' it was 10 layers deep and what does that have to do with 'fake'?




the new jersey courts... they already ruled on it


the courts didnt rule on the authenticity of his documents

I Believe you are mistaken

they ruled on his status as natural born citizen

'http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/new-jersey-court-finds-obama-natural-born-citizen-chastises-apuzzo-for-his-common-law-claim/


Obama released an image of a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011, after years of stating that the document was not available. But at that time, the Hawaii Department of Health and governor’s office refused to confirm for WND that the image released was an accurate representation of the state’s records.

However, Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s law enforcement investigators have found probable cause that the document is a forgery. Others, meanwhile, argue that the document affirms Obama is not eligible, because it lists his father as a foreigner. The Founders, they argue, understood “natural born citizen” to be the offspring of two American citizens.”

mightymoe's photo
Fri 05/18/12 01:46 PM
even the state of Hawaii refused to say if was a real state document or not...i'm not doubting weather ha is a citizen or not, i'm doubting his lies about where he was born...

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 01:47 PM





















IT is. Two interesting things, in fact.

The first is what caused the choice of Kenya. The second is what educated person could state in one sentence someone was born in Kenya but in the next call them an African American,,,,,

Im pretty sure Kenya is not part of America


his mother is an american, that gives him citizenship regardless



it gives him citizenship at birth , being born to an american woman, thats true




yes, so why did he lie about being born in Hawaii? or at least show the real BC to shut everyone up... thats one of his biggest problems, not letting people know he's on the peoples side...



I dont know of any evidence that he 'lied' about where he was born. There are official documents of him being born in Hawaii. I dont know where any lie has been proven.


i think he should just squash it once and for all, and just tell the truth, for once...



I dont think he should waste his energy,, there will never be ENOUGH proof for those who believe in the birth conspiracy,,,


i disagree... they already showed us a lie on this, fueling us even more... if he cared, he would just tell the truth... i don't think being born in kenya would disqualify him from being president, but his lies will... i can't give him any respect while he keeps spouting off lies...



who showed us a lie? what lie were we shown?


they have proved his last BC was a fake, just a few months ago....


no,, 'they' didnt

they proved that OBAMA Never submitted anything to that state

it was repeatedly reported as some admission that the document was a 'fake'....





yes, they proved it was a fake... 10 layers deep and not a fake? just more of his lies... but i am starting to wonder if obama is just following the wrong people... kind of seems that way, that we are being tested to see how far they can "push" us, or seeing what they can get away with for their own personal gains... but if so, obama will be the fall guy for it...



who 'proved' it was 10 layers deep and what does that have to do with 'fake'?




the new jersey courts... they already ruled on it


the courts didnt rule on the authenticity of his documents

I Believe you are mistaken

they ruled on his status as natural born citizen

'http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/new-jersey-court-finds-obama-natural-born-citizen-chastises-apuzzo-for-his-common-law-claim/


Obama released an image of a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011, after years of stating that the document was not available. But at that time, the Hawaii Department of Health and governor’s office refused to confirm for WND that the image released was an accurate representation of the state’s records.

However, Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s law enforcement investigators have found probable cause that the document is a forgery. Others, meanwhile, argue that the document affirms Obama is not eligible, because it lists his father as a foreigner. The Founders, they argue, understood “natural born citizen” to be the offspring of two American citizens.”



none of this has anything to do with 'proof' of a fake document,,,

mightymoe's photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:04 PM






















IT is. Two interesting things, in fact.

The first is what caused the choice of Kenya. The second is what educated person could state in one sentence someone was born in Kenya but in the next call them an African American,,,,,

Im pretty sure Kenya is not part of America


his mother is an american, that gives him citizenship regardless



it gives him citizenship at birth , being born to an american woman, thats true




yes, so why did he lie about being born in Hawaii? or at least show the real BC to shut everyone up... thats one of his biggest problems, not letting people know he's on the peoples side...



I dont know of any evidence that he 'lied' about where he was born. There are official documents of him being born in Hawaii. I dont know where any lie has been proven.


i think he should just squash it once and for all, and just tell the truth, for once...



I dont think he should waste his energy,, there will never be ENOUGH proof for those who believe in the birth conspiracy,,,


i disagree... they already showed us a lie on this, fueling us even more... if he cared, he would just tell the truth... i don't think being born in kenya would disqualify him from being president, but his lies will... i can't give him any respect while he keeps spouting off lies...



who showed us a lie? what lie were we shown?


they have proved his last BC was a fake, just a few months ago....


no,, 'they' didnt

they proved that OBAMA Never submitted anything to that state

it was repeatedly reported as some admission that the document was a 'fake'....





yes, they proved it was a fake... 10 layers deep and not a fake? just more of his lies... but i am starting to wonder if obama is just following the wrong people... kind of seems that way, that we are being tested to see how far they can "push" us, or seeing what they can get away with for their own personal gains... but if so, obama will be the fall guy for it...



who 'proved' it was 10 layers deep and what does that have to do with 'fake'?




the new jersey courts... they already ruled on it


the courts didnt rule on the authenticity of his documents

I Believe you are mistaken

they ruled on his status as natural born citizen

'http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/new-jersey-court-finds-obama-natural-born-citizen-chastises-apuzzo-for-his-common-law-claim/


Obama released an image of a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011, after years of stating that the document was not available. But at that time, the Hawaii Department of Health and governor’s office refused to confirm for WND that the image released was an accurate representation of the state’s records.

However, Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s law enforcement investigators have found probable cause that the document is a forgery. Others, meanwhile, argue that the document affirms Obama is not eligible, because it lists his father as a foreigner. The Founders, they argue, understood “natural born citizen” to be the offspring of two American citizens.”



none of this has anything to do with 'proof' of a fake document,,,


https://beatobama.us/birth-certificate/barack-obamas-attorney-admits-the-birth-certificate-is-fake


his attorney said it was a fake... but i guess that is not enough proof for ya...

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:11 PM
smh


complete WITH Video

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ineligible.asp

mightymoe's photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:13 PM


thank you, glad you agree with me on this...

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:15 PM
I didnt know we agreed

so you agree the attorney never said anything about a 'fake' document?

no photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:25 PM

That birth certificate is most assuredly a fake.
A PDF with multiple layers is NOT how a scanned document would appear.

Find someone with Adobe Illustrator to open the PDF and show you.


msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:30 PM


That birth certificate is most assuredly a fake.
A PDF with multiple layers is NOT how a scanned document would appear.

Find someone with Adobe Illustrator to open the PDF and show you.





look at that,, I Just did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc3b8xVJStU&feature=player_embedded

mightymoe's photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:45 PM

I didnt know we agreed

so you agree the attorney never said anything about a 'fake' document?


are you saying the internet lies?... she did say it was a fake... snopes is run by hardcore liberals, what else would they say?

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 03:46 PM


I didnt know we agreed

so you agree the attorney never said anything about a 'fake' document?


are you saying the internet lies?... she did say it was a fake... snopes is run by hardcore liberals, what else would they say?


did you just ask me if I think the internet lies?


laugh laugh laugh laugh

she never said it was a fake, even the sites that claim she said it arent able to quote her as saying it,,,,

no photo
Fri 05/18/12 05:12 PM



That birth certificate is most assuredly a fake.
A PDF with multiple layers is NOT how a scanned document would appear.

Find someone with Adobe Illustrator to open the PDF and show you.





look at that,, I Just did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc3b8xVJStU&feature=player_embedded


Do you seriously believe that guy?

The PDF released as his birth certificate most certainly is NOT a true copy of the original. The green background's "slit" proves without a doubt, that the background was never part of the original.

Plus, the guy in the video shows you a "high resolution" JPG without the background.

True copy? Hades NO!
True "Abstract"? LOL, anything could be considered a "true abstract"...


msharmony's photo
Fri 05/18/12 05:19 PM




That birth certificate is most assuredly a fake.
A PDF with multiple layers is NOT how a scanned document would appear.

Find someone with Adobe Illustrator to open the PDF and show you.





look at that,, I Just did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc3b8xVJStU&feature=player_embedded


Do you seriously believe that guy?

The PDF released as his birth certificate most certainly is NOT a true copy of the original. The green background's "slit" proves without a doubt, that the background was never part of the original.

Plus, the guy in the video shows you a "high resolution" JPG without the background.

True copy? Hades NO!
True "Abstract"? LOL, anything could be considered a "true abstract"...





do you seriously believe only ONE version was released?

why shouldnt I believe him anymore than people are believing other 'experts'?

do you feel a forger would have been that spot on as to have the high resolution fit perfectly on top of the forgery,, but careless enough to leave evidence of all the 'layers'?





no photo
Fri 05/18/12 06:19 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Fri 05/18/12 06:19 PM
do you feel a forger would have been that spot on as to have the high resolution fit perfectly on top of the forgery,, but careless enough to leave evidence of all the 'layers'?





One way a forgery could be accomplished requires that the high-res version be the same as the obviously doctored version.

Step 1. Remove background and clean up all stray pixels on an original.
Step 2. Clean up text by coloring characters with pure black.
Step 3. Scan other documents to obtain characters needed to re-spell whatever you want. (including signatures)
Step 4. Clean up individual pieces.
Step 5. Rework a new document to appear as close to an original as possible.
Step 6. Overlay doctored copy over background of choice.


I've recreated numerous certificates for various businesses over the years. Regardless of what that guys says, it wouldn't takes weeks to accomplish the cleaning up of that document. 24 hours tops...

JPG's do not support transparency. That means that there has to be yet another image that was used to create that JPG (maybe from the PDF?) as a JPG image placed in the PDF would have entirely covered the background.

Look at the PDF. Pay close attention to that slit down the left side.

Do you still think that PDF is an accurate copy?

Deception breeds doubt and that doc is a breeding ground...

Peccy's photo
Fri 05/18/12 08:09 PM
Edited by Peccy on Fri 05/18/12 08:10 PM

do you feel a forger would have been that spot on as to have the high resolution fit perfectly on top of the forgery,, but careless enough to leave evidence of all the 'layers'?





One way a forgery could be accomplished requires that the high-res version be the same as the obviously doctored version.

Step 1. Remove background and clean up all stray pixels on an original.
Step 2. Clean up text by coloring characters with pure black.
Step 3. Scan other documents to obtain characters needed to re-spell whatever you want. (including signatures)
Step 4. Clean up individual pieces.
Step 5. Rework a new document to appear as close to an original as possible.
Step 6. Overlay doctored copy over background of choice.


I've recreated numerous certificates for various businesses over the years. Regardless of what that guys says, it wouldn't takes weeks to accomplish the cleaning up of that document. 24 hours tops...

JPG's do not support transparency. That means that there has to be yet another image that was used to create that JPG (maybe from the PDF?) as a JPG image placed in the PDF would have entirely covered the background.

Look at the PDF. Pay close attention to that slit down the left side.

Do you still think that PDF is an accurate copy?

Deception breeds doubt and that doc is a breeding ground...

I have a degree in graphic design. While I haven't seen the image, I can assure you everything Peter says holds true. JPG's do not support transparency, so it could have been a GIF (only supports 256 colors so it is doubtful) Probably a PNG which supports millions. But I am slightly buzzed, so if someone could provide a link I might be able to tell you better.

no photo
Fri 05/18/12 08:24 PM


do you feel a forger would have been that spot on as to have the high resolution fit perfectly on top of the forgery,, but careless enough to leave evidence of all the 'layers'?





One way a forgery could be accomplished requires that the high-res version be the same as the obviously doctored version.

Step 1. Remove background and clean up all stray pixels on an original.
Step 2. Clean up text by coloring characters with pure black.
Step 3. Scan other documents to obtain characters needed to re-spell whatever you want. (including signatures)
Step 4. Clean up individual pieces.
Step 5. Rework a new document to appear as close to an original as possible.
Step 6. Overlay doctored copy over background of choice.


I've recreated numerous certificates for various businesses over the years. Regardless of what that guys says, it wouldn't takes weeks to accomplish the cleaning up of that document. 24 hours tops...

JPG's do not support transparency. That means that there has to be yet another image that was used to create that JPG (maybe from the PDF?) as a JPG image placed in the PDF would have entirely covered the background.

Look at the PDF. Pay close attention to that slit down the left side.

Do you still think that PDF is an accurate copy?

Deception breeds doubt and that doc is a breeding ground...

I have a degree in graphic design. While I haven't seen the image, I can assure you everything Peter says holds true. JPG's do not support transparency, so it could have been a GIF (only supports 256 colors so it is doubtful) Probably a PNG which supports millions. But I am slightly buzzed, so if someone could provide a link I might be able to tell you better.


WOW!

The original posted in April 2011 is now gone?!?!? It was there in April of this year.

Anyways, here is what they have now...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

So, now I've seen at least 4 "official" copies...


no photo
Fri 05/18/12 08:37 PM
Edited by Peter_Pan69 on Fri 05/18/12 08:47 PM
Here's a detailed break-down

http://www.wnd.com/2011/05/296881/

If I find the original from 4-27-2011, I'll post a link.

I find it highly suspicious that the original from the gov site has disappeared in the past month...

*edit

found it.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

*edit

Seems I missed the link the first time, it WAS there...