I believe this was previously discussed here. Draw your own conclusions. I will copy/paste the article and the link in case someone cant bring it up.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56855

THE POWER TO DESTROY
IRS loses challenge to prove tax liability
Lawyer is acquitted after arguing income levy lacks legal foundation

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Posted: July 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


The Internal Revenue Service has lost a lawyer's challenge in front of a jury to prove a constitutional foundation for the nation's income tax, and the victorious attorney now is setting his sights higher.

"I think now people are beginning to realize that this has got to be the largest fraud, backed up by intimidation and extortion and by the sheer force of taking peoples property and hard-earned money without any lawful authorization whatsoever," lawyer Tom Cryer told WND just days after a jury in Louisiana acquitted him of two criminal tax counts.

And before you consign him to the legions of "tin foil hat brigades" who argue against paying taxes, and then want payment to explain how to do that, he addresses the issue up front.

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"These snake oil peddlers have conned millions of dollars out of many well-intended patriots and left a trail of broken lives in their wake. … These charlatans should be avoided, not only because they will lead you to bankruptcy and prison, but because by association they discredit those who are telling the truth," he said.

The truth, he said, is where he comes in, with the launch of a new Truth Attack website that is intended to build on his victory, and create a coalition of resources to defeat – ultimately – the income tax in the United States.


The logo for the new Truth Attack campaign against income taxes

Although the legal citations in the case tend to run the length of paragraphs, Cryer told WND the underlying issue is not that complicated. Essentially, he argued that income is not necessarily any money that comes to a person, but rather categories such as profit and interest.

He said the free exchange of labor for compensation has been upheld as a right by the Supreme Court, but that doesn't necessarily make the compensation income.

If ever such an argument were to be presented widely, Cryer said, the income to the federal government would plummet. But not to worry, he said, the expenses could be reduced equally by eliminating programs, departments and agencies that also have no foundation in the Constitution.

"The Founding Fathers intentionally restricted the taxing powers of the new federal government as a measure of restraint on its size. By exceeding that limited taxing authority the federal government has been able to obtain resources beyond its intended reach, and that money has enabled the federal government to exceed its authority," he said.

For example, he said, the Constitution does not empower the federal government to regulate education, or employment, and agriculture, yet it does so.

The jury in U.S. District Court in Louisiana voted 12-0 to find Cryer, of Shreveport, not guilty of failure to file income taxes for two years. He had been indicted in 2006 on charges of failing to pay $73,000 to the IRS in 2000 and 2001. The next step in his personal case will be up to the IRS and prosecutors, if they choose to continue the issue, he said.

But for the rest of the nation, he's working with Save-a-Patriot, the Free Enterprise Society, Live Free Now and his own Lie Free Zone to spread the message of the truth.

"There are three points that are important," he told WND. "There's no law making the average working man liable [for income taxes], there's no law or regulation that allows the IRS to contend that earnings are 100 percent profit received in exchange for nothing, and the right to earn a living through any lawful occupation is a constitutionally protected fundamental right, and it is exempt from taxation."

Spokesman Robert Marvin in Washington's IRS office told WND the Internal Revenue Code provides for taxation on salaries or wages, but when pressed for a specific citation, or constitutional provision, he said, "I can't comment."

Cryer's encounter with tax law began more than a decade ago when a friend told him the income tax was sham. Cryer started researching, hoping to keep his friend out of trouble. But his conclusions, after years of research, were exactly what his friend told him.

He researched not only tax laws, but also the documents pertaining to the drafting of the U.S. Constitution as well as the first income tax.

He said throughout his battle, he's offered at every turn to pay taxes if the IRS could show him the authorization, and that never has happened.

"The Criminal Investigation Division and Department of Justice both responded only with 'your position is frivolous.' I had never stated a position, so how could they know whether it was frivolous?" he said. "Imagine my sending you a bill for $1,000 and when you call me and ask what the bill was for I simply said, 'that position is frivolous, just write the check and send it in.'"

His acquittal, he said, was a precedent because it means "people can see and recognize the truth."

He said multiple Supreme Court opinions have affirmed an individual's ownership of his or her own labor, and "exercising your fundamental rights" is not taxable. "It is definitely a trade. What most people receive in the form of wages, salaries or in my case fees that they personally earned for their labor is not received in exchange for nothing."

He said there might be a profit that should be taxable, but there might not.

"The IRS lets Wal-Mart sell a trillion dollars worth of goods, but they can back out their cost of goods [before being taxed,]" he said. "The IRS considers, in the case of a Wal-Mart wage earner, 100 percent of what he takes in is profit."

"But he's using his life, energy and work lifespan, and depleting it as he goes," Cryer told WND. "[Working] is a God-given fundamental right that is protected under the Constitution and can't be taxed any more than exercising freedom of speech."

While he waits to see what, if anything, the IRS and Justice Department will do next in his case, he's working to coordinate the groups that are battling taxation as unconstitutional.

"I have started a campaign to unify [the work] and we've got a number of organizations that are sponsoring and supporting this campaign," he said. The goal is to get everyone "who is aware of the truth" organized so they can spread the word.

He warned without a restoration of constitutional basics, the nation is lost.

"Read your Constitution and you will see that the federal role does not include ANY authority to regulate or tax any citizen directly and that WE expressly reserved the right to rule and govern ourselves as States, not as mere political subdivisions," his website says.

"The Constitution does not allow the government to run your lives, but the money it is stealing from millions of Americans is the fuel for its over-reaching and kibitzing. Take the money back and we and our states and communities can again be free," he said.

The fight is over "our FREEDOM from rule by a DISTANT RULER, just as we fought to free ourselves of a distant England over 200 years ago," he said.

Its not stated in the Constitution but do I want to take on the IRS NO!!!!!!!!

Random,
I believe thats most folks position. You noticed it was an attorney who actually took them on and previously I read of a prior IRS agent who took them on. I guess if you have money and time you can risk it and not worry about them garnishing your wages while the process is ongoing.

Taino

have you heard about the Couple up north Conneticut or Rhode Island I am not sure that are hold up on there Ranch/Compound refuse to pay taxes have been indicted for Tax Evasion and are refusing to come out and said they would rather Die than surrender? Could be another Waco ...over Taxes...And yes THEY ARE ARMED and being supported by the public.

A jury finding him innocent is quite different from a court rulling the tax law is unconstitutional. Remember a Jury found O.J. innocent. Juries supposedly base their decision on only the evidence given at the tiral but in actuality only God knows what actually goes on in their minds. If the tax laws are illegal, why don't some lawyer challenge them in court, then if the challenge is denied, appel the case all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. I know there are a bunch who will jump on this and say that it won't work because of the corruption in our judicial system, save that for your next conspiracy theory.

GF Good Point if taken befor the highest court in the land taxation will be found constitutional no doubt....Personally I am For A Flat tax...

Nope. You dont HAVE to pay taxes. Just be ready to lose it all to the IRS.

Garden,
The fact that people will question a law or a government action isnt always a conspiracy theory. The government is here "or suppossed to be" to serve the people and will only do as much as the people allow them to do. To not question their actions doesnt make you a better citizen or a dedicated one. It allows those with bad intentions to continue unchallenged. If we were to live based on the "govt can do no worng" theory we might as well not had a "Boston Tea party" way back when. Its not only ok to question our leaders its our duty. Thats why they have elections. This is a way of letting them know what we do and dont approve of. the fact that more main stream media is actually reporting about these IRS cases leads one to believe its opening a previously believed taboo of pay or go to jail. More and more people are simply asking the IRS to just show them where it says we have to pay on 100% of what we earn. This is not a gain in my opinion. Its an exchange. labor for money. If you have your millions in the stock exchange or bond market and gain some nice sums of interest then thats considered a gain and taxes should be paid. The example of corporations who earn a certain amount and are allowed to deduct expenses prior to paying taxes is a very good example of how "income" should be treated. I dont have all the answers either Garden but I will continue to read all sides rather than just submit because its always been that way. As I said earlier, everyone can draw their own conclusion.

I dont mind paying Taxes. I just hate it when they are improperly used.

Me too Fanta. Tax payer money helps me with my mental disorder, as it pays for my consoling and theropy and meds. it would be over $300 a month for me if I didn't have all the financial help.

Here...where I live, the native indians do not have to pay income tax, or any other sort of tax.

nope you pay because your scared of the IRS and because you have been duped into believing its patriotic. Notice how i say you and not me?

to recap from another thread, The Govt has historically and is constitutionally supposed to get its monies from TARRIFS, not by taxing us to death.

property taxes, state taxes ect are a different matter. im referring to federal income tax. luckily i work for wages and dont have an income. SAFETY TIP: YOU better have all your ducks in a row before attempting this.... dont have any contracts with them... and your golden. there 27 steps to the process i used to get out of thier contracts that we all think are normal things, like numbers on your house for example.

Rambill,
Hows the insulating form business coming? Still interested in doing one so I might get in touch with you when im ready for some advice.
I would like to see those 27 steps you talk about and I agree with you. When you go down that road you need to be ready for a rough ride so have it all ready.

actually if your prepared the IRS is the easiest dragon of all to slay.
yup the ICF market is getting better all the time, i use Build Block, there are about 10 manufacturers altogether. there all good product but some are a lot easier to work with than others. Build Blocks are reversable, there is no up or down, they make 90s, 45s, 22s and a radius block that is adjustable. i install them for 9.00 to 10.00 per sq foot, my materials and other costs are about 5.50. i have a secret recipe for framing windows that is easy, cheap and fast. will tell all for beer. lol
i built a big 5000 sq footer with 20 foot ceilings for a friend last year and his highest heating bill last winter was 48.00/month.

A case finally won, and made public. I, for one, am not filing next year. And, I'm contacting my H/R department to have them stop deducting 'income tax' from my check. I'll see how far I have to go to get them to agree to that one.

tell them your no longer required to pay. which translates to i found out ive been cammed and bailed.
example of a contract.... writr your full name on a piece of paper. when finished.... let me know.

ok now pull out your drivers licence. whats the difference between the two?

Gypsy- just as a side note to what you mentioned- native americans that are legally part of an acknowledged tribe and that live and work on tribally held lands do not pay taxes.

Those lands are actually "sovereign nations" in and of themselves and not legally part of the US (although they are obviously geographically inclusive maps should and most do differentiate them). Most tribes are very cooperative with the United States and allow cross jurisdictional crimiinal investigations, etc. but they do not pay taxes to another nation (=us). There are many agreements and treatys governing the interactions between nations.