noone said all religions are peaceful period.

What was said is that religions are not peaceful or violent, PEOPLE ARE.

and when people study religions they take from it either the peaceful or violent parts to adhere to as religion most often has BOTH these attributes within its books,,,,

'christian' is a modern term that would not have been used in the QUran,,,need I explain?

there is reference to 'people of the book' and even then, there is no reference concerning 'people of the book' which commands anyone 'to lay in wait to kill' them.....

the references to killing are almost all about INFIDELS,,no specific religious affiliation,,, and almost always can be understood to be in context of SELF DEFENSE

Then you must agree with me that Obama should not have said that Islam is a peaceful religion. According to your own reasoning that is just not true.

it is not factual because religion is not violent or peaceful

yes


to be semantically and grammatically accurate he should have said 'the overwhelming majority of muslims are peaceful people',,,,

being that american english isnt known for its accuracy and has so many ways to use terms, I understand the statement to be countering the idea of islam as a religion of violence

but I believe both are incorrect,,,,

Besides there is no such thing as God.

According to his own words he is unpatriotic.

which words are those?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U

this one is good too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqKnVr3I9q8&feature=related

he doesn't seem too popular around here; what happened? As I recall he was considered, both inside and outside the usa, to be el Salvador himself!

Let's see... the unpatriotic 9 trillion Obama speaks of is now 15 trillion. So by his reasoning, his is more unpatriotic than Bush was. He said it, not me.

in western europe I heard people compare him with Mandela and Ghandi. And I am pretty sure a lot of american liberals felt the same.

Always tragic to see people confusing power politicians with saints...

there is no way for him to deny those lies, MAGNA CUM LAUDE or not

I think the context was comparing irresponsibility to patriotism, not debt,,,

paraphrasing isnt quite the same as lying

brandeis quote ""Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman"


good luck defining 'pork barrel' or 'corporate welfare' in an absolute term to qualify or disqualify the statement,,,


as to exposing tax breaks and public meetings, those were unfulfilled, and most unlikely in the current political climate when they dont even want the names of contributors to campaigns and political advertising exposed,,,

I guess its regional,,, I dont know where 'around here' is for you,, but he still remains highly popular 'around here'

its political too 85 percent of democrats still approve of the job he is doing,,,

demographics shows support in some groups and not in others,,,nothing unusual there really

with 'around here', I mean: this thread. And until now it seems you are the only one who favours him? But that can change any minute of course :)

I admit, with mostly white males posting in this thread, I am in the minority

OBAmas largest support base is females and blacks,, his lowest is white males,,,


demographics is an important factor when discussing 'popularity',,,,

that may be true in the US, but that is definitely not the case in the Netherlands: Obama is still very popular among the (white) elite: men and women alike

I dont know how to determine the demographic support for Obama in the Netherlands,,,