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Edited by
Optomistic69
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I never read the full report so I cant answer it. Thus i argue on what I know only. Give me your best guess on all that you know. Yes or No? The Video covers all and sundry so address the video |
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For one the video isn't the report. Secondly it is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Do I think there is a possibility of error in the report? Of course. I myself make errors. Do I think some stuff is left out of the report? Yes as there is some stuff that might require some level of clearance. As someone who has actually had a government clearance this is easily understood. Does any of that point to the government being behind the attacks? No of course not. Is there any science to support a demolition of the building? No none. Its been almost 11 years. I challenge anyone to prove there were explosives. Not theories, not hypotheticals,but actual solid proof that would stand up in either a court or scientific community.
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For one the video isn't the report. Secondly it is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Do I think there is a possibility of error in the report? Of course. I myself make errors. Do I think some stuff is left out of the report? Yes as there is some stuff that might require some level of clearance. As someone who has actually had a government clearance this is easily understood. Does any of that point to the government being behind the attacks? No of course not. Is there any science to support a demolition of the building? No none. Its been almost 11 years. I challenge anyone to prove there were explosives. Not theories, not hypotheticals,but actual solid proof that would stand up in either a court or scientific community. I will take that as a No then... Free Thinkers 3 Diehard Yesmen 2 |
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Actually Actually see no one in this thread that is saying the report is right. I see them saying the ASCE analysis on the destruction of the buildings is correct. Those are two different things.
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Actually Actually see no one in this thread that is saying the report is right. I see them saying the ASCE analysis on the destruction of the buildings is correct. Those are two different things. Stop dancing around the question. The OP deals with 911 One last chance...do you want to run with the free thinkers or join the diehard yesmen? |
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Edited by
Chazster
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Mon 04/16/12 08:29 AM
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Actually Actually see no one in this thread that is saying the report is right. I see them saying the ASCE analysis on the destruction of the buildings is correct. Those are two different things. Stop dancing around the question. The OP deals with 911 One last chance...do you want to run with the free thinkers or join the diehard yesmen? How does conforming to one of your made up groups make anyone a free thinker? You are the one demanding a yes or no all the time. Free thinking allows me to make my own opinions on topics and relate them to what I see fit. How does the ASCE report not deal with 911? It is the engineering analysis of the colapse of the buildings. I am sorry but no one in this thread answers to you and you have no authority to make groups. If thinking for myself and not agreeing with you makes me a German I your eyes then that's fine. You hold no authority. |
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Edited by
Optomistic69
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Mon 04/16/12 08:49 AM
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Chazster ...look at the video again and give your opinion on the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yuC_4mGTs98 |
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play..
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Just looks like some random conspiracy video with lots of stuff from different conspiracy theorist sites. Who says the Pentagon is the most heavily defended airspace in the world? I can think of much more important things to protect. No mention of the ASCE investigations. Flying a plane level to the ground like they tale about with the Pentagon, yea how do you think people land a plane? By not flying level with the ground? Nothing impressive with the video.
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play.. How difficult is a Yes or No |
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play..   
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play.. How difficult is a Yes or No The idea that if one aspect of any report is incorrect it automatically nullifies the veracity of the rest is just stupid. That is like saying if Einstein was wrong about any subject in which he commented all of his entire life's work is null and void.. It's absurd.. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Mon 04/16/12 09:30 AM
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play.. How difficult is a Yes or No
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play.. How difficult is a Yes or No What is your obsession with asking this? Lol |
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play.. How difficult is a Yes or No What is your obsession with asking this? Lol
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Edited by
Optomistic69
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Mon 04/16/12 09:46 AM
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play.. How difficult is a Yes or No The idea that if one aspect of any report is incorrect it automatically nullifies the veracity of the rest is just stupid. That is like saying if Einstein was wrong about any subject in which he commented all of his entire life's work is null and void.. It's absurd.. Not comment invictus.. a Government Reporting on 3000 dead Americans. What about yourself invictus Are you au fait with your Governments report? Yes or No? I have you down as someone who doesn't do fence sitting |
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Edited by
Chazster
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Mon 04/16/12 09:48 AM
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What about you Optimistic? Do you think it was a demolition?
Yes or no? |
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If I may chime in here, the answer is not as simple as the conspiracy theorists (CT) long to make it. It's not a black and white question. There are many subtle different gray tones in a question this big.
You say you want answers, but if the answer nullifies your view, then CT's move on to something else absurd. Finally they circle around points given to them and try to resume the same line of questioning a week or longer later. It's a never ending circle and has been since 9/11. Do I wholeheartedly believe the government had nothing to do with it? I don't know, and don't try to insinuate I do, unlike CT's. I can tell you for sure that it wasn't a demolition. If someone has ever heard one set off, then they wouldn't even bring that flimsy argument to the table. Especially one with enough explosives to bring down a building that massive. For those who never saw it in person, it's easy to say it was toppled with a simple explosion at the base. For those of us who have seen it in person when it was standing, know how gargantuan it was and can positively say that it couldn't be done without TONS of explosives! So that's my argument, I side with the countless thousands of engineers. |
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oh.... the games that desperate people have to play.. How difficult is a Yes or No The idea that if one aspect of any report is incorrect it automatically nullifies the veracity of the rest is just stupid. That is like saying if Einstein was wrong about any subject in which he commented all of his entire life's work is null and void.. It's absurd.. Not comment invictus.. a Government Reporting on 3000 dead Americans. What about yourself invictus Are you au fait with your Governments report? Yes or No? I have you down as someone who doesn't do fence sitting After we showed that it was impossible to Demolish those Buildings with Pyrotechnics or Explosives! So now you try a different Angle! Just sidestep all the assertions you made! 
Think everyone else will forget about it,then either a Yes or a No will instantly give you Victory! OBFUSCATION!
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If I may chime in here, the answer is not as simple as the conspiracy theorists (CT) long to make it. It's not a black and white question. There are many subtle different gray tones in a question this big. You say you want answers, but if the answer nullifies your view, then CT's move on to something else absurd. Finally they circle around points given to them and try to resume the same line of questioning a week or longer later. It's a never ending circle and has been since 9/11. Do I wholeheartedly believe the government had nothing to do with it? I don't know, and don't try to insinuate I do, unlike CT's. I can tell you for sure that it wasn't a demolition. If someone has ever heard one set off, then they wouldn't even bring that flimsy argument to the table. Especially one with enough explosives to bring down a building that massive. For those who never saw it in person, it's easy to say it was toppled with a simple explosion at the base. For those of us who have seen it in person when it was standing, know how gargantuan it was and can positively say that it couldn't be done without TONS of explosives! So that's my argument, I side with the countless thousands of engineers. Wonder how and when they brought it all in,and where they hid it!
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