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Topic: Blood sacrifice
creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Fri 03/16/12 11:00 PM
blah, blah, blah, dishonest, blah, blah, blah, blah, , incoherent, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, error, blah, blah, blah, blah, And yet you accuse others of not reading your posts.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 03/16/12 11:00 PM
But Peterpan, Creative is right that no two religions agree on the Bible. If what you say is true, then everyone should agree on what it means, and what scriptures are divinely inspired. Probably no two persons agree. So you don't make a lot of sense. Why, because I apply logic as well as personal judgement? Regarding the passage that predicts myths being introduced, did I not provide proof of the myth with the mention of Hades? Any sane, logical person would agree that Hades is a Greek myth, no? As for the sacrifices, did I not provide passages that condemned them? If a later prophet after the "laws" were written condemned sacrifices and said that God never commanded them concerning sacrifices, shouldn't a logical person read that as it is stated? And as a fail-safe, you check with your "heart". Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine?

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Fri 03/16/12 11:06 PM
Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine? Divine.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 03/16/12 11:13 PM
Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine? Divine. I think sacrifice is sick and demented. What's your question?

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Fri 03/16/12 11:13 PM
Let's simplify... We have a verse that basically says the following... 1. There will be mention of myth placed in the Bible, you should ignore this part for it is a lie. -- How do you know that that verse is not a lie?

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Fri 03/16/12 11:14 PM
But sacrifice in itself originated through religion. Thus, it is "divine" in origin.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 03/16/12 11:14 PM
But Peterpan, Creative is right that no two religions agree on the Bible. If what you say is true, then everyone should agree on what it means, and what scriptures are divinely inspired. Probably no two persons agree. So you don't make a lot of sense. Why, because I apply logic as well as personal judgement? Regarding the passage that predicts myths being introduced, did I not provide proof of the myth with the mention of Hades? Any sane, logical person would agree that Hades is a Greek myth, no? As for the sacrifices, did I not provide passages that condemned them? If a later prophet after the "laws" were written condemned sacrifices and said that God never commanded them concerning sacrifices, shouldn't a logical person read that as it is stated? And as a fail-safe, you check with your "heart". Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine? If you are asking for my personal opinion regarding that subject, I don't have one. But that was not my point.

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Fri 03/16/12 11:14 PM
Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine? Divine. I think sacrifice is sick and demented. What's your question? So do I. I was correctly spelling the word.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 03/16/12 11:16 PM
Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine? Divine. I think sacrifice is sick and demented. What's your question? So do I. I was correctly spelling the word. lol, missed that, duly noted...

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Fri 03/16/12 11:16 PM
But sacrifice in itself originated through religion. Thus, it is "divine" in origin. If, and only if, the sacrificial part was divinely inspired, it could have been mistaken.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 03/16/12 11:16 PM
P.S. Starting a sentence with: "... Any sane, logical person would agree that ......"? sets up a trap that anyone who disagrees with what follows that is not sane or logical.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 03/16/12 11:17 PM
But Peterpan, Creative is right that no two religions agree on the Bible. If what you say is true, then everyone should agree on what it means, and what scriptures are divinely inspired. Probably no two persons agree. So you don't make a lot of sense. Why, because I apply logic as well as personal judgement? Regarding the passage that predicts myths being introduced, did I not provide proof of the myth with the mention of Hades? Any sane, logical person would agree that Hades is a Greek myth, no? As for the sacrifices, did I not provide passages that condemned them? If a later prophet after the "laws" were written condemned sacrifices and said that God never commanded them concerning sacrifices, shouldn't a logical person read that as it is stated? And as a fail-safe, you check with your "heart". Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine? If you are asking for my personal opinion regarding that subject, I don't have one. But that was not my point. What's your opinion on the logical reasoning I've illustrated?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 03/16/12 11:18 PM
But sacrifice in itself originated through religion. Thus, it is "divine" in origin. The term "divine" implies it comes from God. One would have to believe in God to even use the term.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Fri 03/16/12 11:19 PM
But sacrifice in itself originated through religion. Thus, it is "divine" in origin. If, and only if, the sacrificial part was divinely inspired, it could have been mistaken. Could have been, but regardless; eons upon eons ago, it began. Whether a mistake or not, isn't my right to state.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 03/16/12 11:20 PM
P.S. Starting a sentence with: "... Any sane, logical person would agree that ......"? sets up a trap that anyone who disagrees with what follows that is not sane or logical. I know that, I only use "that" line of debate with others who use it... Kinda irks ya, does it not?

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Fri 03/16/12 11:20 PM
But sacrifice in itself originated through religion. Thus, it is "divine" in origin. The term "divine" implies it comes from God. One would have to believe in God to even use the term. ..Yeah, said that a while ago. -.-

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Fri 03/16/12 11:22 PM
But sacrifice in itself originated through religion. Thus, it is "divine" in origin. If, and only if, the sacrificial part was divinely inspired, it could have been mistaken. Could have been, but regardless; eons upon eons ago, it began. Whether a mistake or not, isn't my right to state. Oh, it's definitely your "right" to state. Stating it, alone, does not make it true. What makes it true is if, and only if, the sacrificial part was divinely inspired.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 03/16/12 11:24 PM
But Peterpan, Creative is right that no two religions agree on the Bible. If what you say is true, then everyone should agree on what it means, and what scriptures are divinely inspired. Probably no two persons agree. So you don't make a lot of sense. Why, because I apply logic as well as personal judgement? Regarding the passage that predicts myths being introduced, did I not provide proof of the myth with the mention of Hades? Any sane, logical person would agree that Hades is a Greek myth, no? As for the sacrifices, did I not provide passages that condemned them? If a later prophet after the "laws" were written condemned sacrifices and said that God never commanded them concerning sacrifices, shouldn't a logical person read that as it is stated? And as a fail-safe, you check with your "heart". Do you think animal or human sacrifice is devine? If you are asking for my personal opinion regarding that subject, I don't have one. But that was not my point. What's your opinion on the logical reasoning I've illustrated? If you base your logic on something you read in scriptures concerning what some prophet said, or allegedly condemned, I would say that you were simply basing your belief on what you are reading or on someone else's opinions. You are simply taking sides. And since I don't base my belief on said scriptures and what some long dead prophet had to say, I don't think much of the logic either. So it doesn't apply to me at all, and I still have no opinion about it.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Fri 03/16/12 11:25 PM
P.S. Starting a sentence with: "... Any sane, logical person would agree that ......"? sets up a trap that anyone who disagrees with what follows that is not sane or logical. I know that, I only use "that" line of debate with others who use it... Kinda irks ya, does it not? It does not irk me in the slightest. I recognize it for what it is. Weak argument.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Fri 03/16/12 11:26 PM
If you base your logic on something you read in scriptures concerning what some prophet said, or allegedly condemned, I would say that you were simply basing your belief on what you are reading or on someone else's opinions. You are simply taking sides. And since I don't base my belief on said scriptures and what some long dead prophet had to say, I don't think much of the logic either. So it doesn't apply to me at all, and I still have no opinion about it. I don't base my belief on scripture. I can however, read it and see where and how it agrees with my beliefs. Nice cop-out, btw...