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Who did God order anyone to kill? And why? And definitly what "women" has God asked to have his baby? God order Abraham to kill his son ...and God asked mary to be his baby mama ...jeez...you should have learn that in Sunday school You said women not woman. And why did God order Abraham to kill his son? didn't God get Abraham's wife pregnant too .... Did he? You were the one that said women and not just woman. If God empregnated more then one woman, please do enlighten us all. For I have never heard of any other woman carrying the child of God besides Marry. didn't God tell 90 year old Sara that she would get pregnant...it was so funny to her that she laughed.....but next thing you know she's pregnant.... ..and somehow you took that as.. He impregnated her? Wow.. hahaha |
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OK.....one more time....to clarify what is really going on here: WHEN Cowboy says The Father , Son ,and Holy Spirit is ONE GOD, he only means that they are just a "FAMILY of entities or supreme beings" , under the umbrella "TITLE" of ONE GOD ...but he does NOT believe The Father, Son, and Holy Sprit is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING, as Christians believe. Christians believe all 3 persons make up ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.. Cowboy believes The Father,Son,and Holy Spirit are actually 3 ENTIRELY different ENTITIES.....or BEINGS entirely apart ..... NOT just 3 separate Persons WITHIN ONE ENTITY ,as Christians believe. To Cowboy, GOD is just a TITLE over a FAMILY of "entities or beings".....nothing more....God to Him is NOT ONE SUPREME BEING....but just a title. And this belief of his , is not what the bible teaches. Hope this clarifies the difference between what Cowboy believes and what the bible actually teaches. ps...And this is just one of many areas ,where christians and Cowboy do not agree. But regardless of how Cowboy chooses to believe, The Bible makes it very CLEAR that GOD is not a Title , but instead; the Bible clearly states that GOD is ONE SUPREME BEING or ONLY ONE ENTITY, and NOT 3 entities under just a title of "God", as Cowboy believes. Hope this clarifies what the real issue is on here. 
Christians follow the teachings of Yeshua. Period. Right. All the rest of those so-called "Christian" beliefs are details. I know a lot of "Christians" and each one has their own limited ideas and beliefs. They don't buy 100% everything their church tries to tell them. That does not mean that they are NOT Christians. |
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OK.....one more time....to clarify what is really going on here: WHEN Cowboy says The Father , Son ,and Holy Spirit is ONE GOD, he only means that they are just a "FAMILY of entities or supreme beings" , under the umbrella "TITLE" of ONE GOD ...but he does NOT believe The Father, Son, and Holy Sprit is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING, as Christians believe. Christians believe all 3 persons make up ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.. Cowboy believes The Father,Son,and Holy Spirit are actually 3 ENTIRELY different ENTITIES.....or BEINGS entirely apart ..... NOT just 3 separate Persons WITHIN ONE ENTITY ,as Christians believe. To Cowboy, GOD is just a TITLE over a FAMILY of "entities or beings".....nothing more....God to Him is NOT ONE SUPREME BEING....but just a title. And this belief of his , is not what the bible teaches. Hope this clarifies the difference between what Cowboy believes and what the bible actually teaches. ps...And this is just one of many areas ,where christians and Cowboy do not agree. But regardless of how Cowboy chooses to believe, The Bible makes it very CLEAR that GOD is not a Title , but instead; the Bible clearly states that GOD is ONE SUPREME BEING or ONLY ONE ENTITY, and NOT 3 entities under just a title of "God", as Cowboy believes. Hope this clarifies what the real issue is on here.
Christians follow the teachings of Yeshua. Period. Right. All the rest of those so-called "Christian" beliefs are details. I know a lot of "Christians" and each one has their own limited ideas and beliefs. They don't buy 100% everything their church tries to tell them. That does not mean that they are NOT Christians. ..but Jeannie. Their entire religion is based off Yeshua's story. Changed names and characters, like TNT does on it's Cop dramas like Law and Order, but the case is still real. xD Ahem. Just like Roman Mythology was based off Greek Mythology, and they changed names and places. Same concept. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 02/27/12 05:19 PM
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OK.....one more time....to clarify what is really going on here: WHEN Cowboy says The Father , Son ,and Holy Spirit is ONE GOD, he only means that they are just a "FAMILY of entities or supreme beings" , under the umbrella "TITLE" of ONE GOD ...but he does NOT believe The Father, Son, and Holy Sprit is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING, as Christians believe. Christians believe all 3 persons make up ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.. Cowboy believes The Father,Son,and Holy Spirit are actually 3 ENTIRELY different ENTITIES.....or BEINGS entirely apart ..... NOT just 3 separate Persons WITHIN ONE ENTITY ,as Christians believe. To Cowboy, GOD is just a TITLE over a FAMILY of "entities or beings".....nothing more....God to Him is NOT ONE SUPREME BEING....but just a title. And this belief of his , is not what the bible teaches. Hope this clarifies the difference between what Cowboy believes and what the bible actually teaches. ps...And this is just one of many areas ,where christians and Cowboy do not agree. But regardless of how Cowboy chooses to believe, The Bible makes it very CLEAR that GOD is not a Title , but instead; the Bible clearly states that GOD is ONE SUPREME BEING or ONLY ONE ENTITY, and NOT 3 entities under just a title of "God", as Cowboy believes. Hope this clarifies what the real issue is on here.
Christians follow the teachings of Yeshua. Period. Right. All the rest of those so-called "Christian" beliefs are details. I know a lot of "Christians" and each one has their own limited ideas and beliefs. They don't buy 100% everything their church tries to tell them. That does not mean that they are NOT Christians. ..but Jeannie. Their entire religion is based off Yeshua's story. Changed names and characters, like TNT does on it's Cop dramas like Law and Order, but the case is still real. xD Ahem. Just like Roman Mythology was based off Greek Mythology, and they changed names and places. Same concept. Yeshua, Jesus, .... what ever you call him. A Christian, in my opinion, is one who follows the teachings of the guy who everyone believes is the son of the one and only god of some guy named Abraham. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 02/27/12 07:18 PM
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Yes..Christians believe in THE One and ONLY GOD.....
and ONE GOD means ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING to a CHRISTIAN.... NOT NOT NOT a "FAMILY " of beings or entities under just some umbrella "TITLE " called "One God" , as Cowboy believes... Cowboy's belief that "One God" is just an umbrella "Title" over many entities .... or beings....or gods , is NOT NOT NOT Christian at all..for it is NOT what the bible teaches us about God AT ALL. One last time: The Bible teaches that GOD is ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING.... or ONLY ONE ENTITY....... ONE ENTITY or SUPREME BEING ONLY.....with 3 Persons WITHIN that ONE ENTITY or SUPREME BEING ...... THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, WHO IS ONE SUPREME BEING. AND ONCE MORE....."ONE GOD" DOES NOT NOT NOT MEAN GOD IS JUST AN UMBRELLA "TITLE" OVER A "FAMILY" OF GODS OR ENTITIES !!!!
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the 'trinity' is similar to cowboys belief
it is also considered 'christian' some believe in one creator who embodies the father , the son, and the holy ghost others believe in seperate entities,, I dont think either belief makes one more or less christian I think its more about how we live and love the lord which makes us christian |
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the 'trinity' is similar to cowboys belief it is also considered 'christian' some believe in one creator who embodies the father , the son, and the holy ghost others believe in seperate entities,, I dont think either belief makes one more or less christian I think its more about how we live and love the lord which makes us christian I agree. Some groups(churches) even in my small town have all these little different beliefs that they feel are so important and if you don't believe what they believe, you are looked at as "wrong" or not a "real Christian." Some churches actually believe that their church alone is right and all the others are wrong about something or that they don't have the true authority to baptize people etc. I've heard it all. And yet they all use the Bible as their guide. It does not make a lot of sense to be so finicky about all the details. Every church has their own version. That is why they separated into so many denominations. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 02/27/12 07:31 PM
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The TRINITY is REFERRING TO THE TRI-UNE GOD WHO IS
3 PERSONS IN ONE ENTITY!!! GOD IS ONLY ONLY ONLY ONE ENTITY !!!!! NOT NOT NOT SEVERAL AS COWBOY TEACHES ON HERE!!!!!! GOD IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING !!! THERE IS ONE GOD ONLY!!! ONLY ONE!!! NOT NOT NOT THREE ENTITIES!!!! OR 3 SUPREME BEINGS !!! AS COWBOY TEACHES !!!! AND ALSO.... GOD IS NOT NOT NOT JUST A TITLE OVER A FAMILT OF GODS, AS COWBOY TEACHES!!!! NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT STATE THAT GOD IS MORE THAN ONE ENTITY OR SUPREME BEING!!!! THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT.... THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD ALMIGHTY ,WHO IS ONE SUPREME BEING OR ONE ENTITY...ONLY !!!!! GOD IS A TRI-UNE GOD.........MEANING GOD IS 3 SEPARATE PERSONS IN ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING OR ONE ENTITY....ONLY !!!! THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD WE SERVE !!!
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Morningsong that is your opinion, we understand you believe that.
Not everyone agrees. I realize you believe you are right and they are all wrong but that is only according to your faith and what you believe. |
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A group of people who wrote the Bible decided at one point that there was only one true God. So they wrote about it.
That does not mean it is true. It is only what they believe. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 02/27/12 07:54 PM
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For the benefit of the new people on board,
I have once more clarified what the bible teaches. I have also clarified ,that what Cowboy teaches is not biblical. How or what people choose to believe, however, is entirely up to them now. But I did make very clear what the bible actually says...and the bible clearly says God is ONE SUPREME BEING. ALL Christians believe GOD IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING...ONLY!!! Meaning....despite some minor differences among denominations and non-denominations, at least ALLLLLLL denominations AGREE that GOD IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING !!!!!!
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with all due respect
statements that begin with 'all' <insert group label here> are seldom correct I personally believe christian is a way we live, and much more complex than what we believe or what our traditions are,,,, Jesus never said he was seperate from God, but he never said he was God either,, at least not in what is included in our modern bible those interpretations are not enough to discern someone 'christian' or not ,,, in my opinion I dont think we should divide ourselves in such a way,,, |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 02/27/12 07:53 PM
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For the benefit of the new people on board, I have once more clarified what the bible teaches. I have also clarified ,that what Cowboy teaches is not biblical. How or what people choose to believe, however, is entirely up to them now. But I did make very clear what the bible actually says...and the bible clearly says God is ONE SUPREME BEING. ALL Christians believe GOD IS ONLY ONE SUPREME BEING...ONLY!!!
The Bible teaches a lot of things including that GOD IS LOVE. All post their opinions here. Nobody is teaching anything. We all have our beliefs and opinions and this is not a podium for preaching. It is for discussion and Cowboy will be the first person to tell you that is all he is doing....over and over.  
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 02/27/12 08:08 PM
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But Jeannie...you and others are not falsely
representing the bible on here as he is doing. He also believes that we are all gods just like Jesus is just a god......to him, we are no different than Jesus.....cause he does not believe Jesus and God the Father are the SAME ONE ENTITY or THE SAME ONE SUPREME BEING. (he thinks they are 2 separate entities..2 separate gods). 
It is all unbiblical what he teaches on here..and Msharmony surely would not agree with him, had she actually read all his past posts.....
And No one even bothers ever to correct him besides myself and Spider...it's just tooo sad.....really.
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 02/27/12 08:50 PM
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Why is it so important to believe in what the bible
REALLY teaches? Because if one does not believe Jesus is equally as much God as the Father is God, one cannot become born again....becaue God will not reside in a person who does not truly believe JESUS TO BE WHO HE REALLY AND TRULY IS !!! THAT is why hearing and believing the Truth is the only way to become born again..being born again does not come just thru believing any ole way we want to believe about God. The Power of God to SAVE, moves when ONLY The TRUTH of GOD'S WORD is being preached and heard...and NOT thru hearing another "version" of God's Word being preached !!! FAITH TO BELIEVE COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY The WORD...NOT by hearing a "false version" of the Word !!!! THAT is why the TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD being taught is SO VERY VERY IMPORANT!!! And the enemy KNOWS that ONLY THE TRUTH of God's Word being preached ,has POWER to Draw and SAVE man..and that is exacty why the enemy tries his best to DISTORT the gospel message !!!! Please listen with your hearts this day, folks..... ONLY GOD'S WORD being heard will move and convict and save man...not a false gospel !!!
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Please listen with your hearts this day, folks..... ONLY GOD'S WORD being heard will move and convict and save man...not a false gospel !!!
I agree. Listen with your hearts, but read it for yourself. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Mon 02/27/12 08:43 PM
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A Christian simply is one who is TRULY BORN AGAIN.
Not someone who just SAYS he is born again. WHEN one is born again, The Holy Spirit INDWELLING the new Christiann now, will lead and guide the christian into all truth. Being truly BORN AGAIN ,is what makes one a CHRISTIAN . Also...all christians (those who are born again) will AGREE on GOD'S WORD...because the same Holy Spirit INDWELLING ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS now , ALSO becomes the Christians TEACHER and GUIDE and HELPER now. THAT is the TRUE meaning of the Word, Christian. Anything else out there is just a label...nothing more.
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A Christian simply is one who is TRULY BORN AGAIN. Not someone who just SAYS he is born again. WHEN one is born again, The Holy Spirit INDWELLING the new Christiann now, will lead and guide the christian into all truth. Being truly born again ,is what makes one a CHRISTIAN . Also..all christians (those who are born agan) will AGREE on God's Word...cause the same Holy Spirit INSWELLING ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ,now ALSO becomes the christians TEACHER and GUIDE and HELPER now. THAT is the TRUE meaning of the Word, Christian. Anything else out there is just a label...nothing more.
That sounds more like possesion. A practice that we are to sheild our minds from. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 02/27/12 08:59 PM
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Why is it so important to believe in what the bible REALLY teaches? Because if one does not believe Jesus is equally as much God as the Father is God, one cannot become born again....becaue God will not reside in a person who does not truly believe JESUS TO BE WHO HE REALLY AND TRULY IS !!! Why do you believe that? (I don't believe that at all.) I think that is just a bunch of b.s. propaganda put out by the Church. There is no reason to believe that. THAT is why hearing and believing the Truth is the only way to become born again..being born again does not come just thru believing any ole way we want to believe about God. "Being born again" is an analogy for spiritual change in the direction of love. Everyone always believes "any ole way" they want to believe INCLUDING YOU. The Power of God to Save, moves when ONLY The TRUTHh of GOD'S Word is being preached..not thru earing another "version" of His Word being preached !!! There is no need to preach. All those who will come to God has already been decided, or so I have been told. Faith to believe comes by hearing the WORD...NOT by hearing a false version of the Word !!!! What false version? The Bible is the Bible right? Cowboy reads the same Bible as you do right? (Or do you each have a different version?) Do you interpret the Bible for yourself or does someone else tell you what it means? Don't people have the freedom (and responsibility) to interpret the Bible for them self? THAT is why the TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD being taught is SO VERY VERY IMPORANT!!! And the enemy KNOWS that ONLY THE TRUTH of God's Word being preached ,has POWER to Draw and SAVE man..and that is exacty why the enemy tries his best to DISTORT the gospel message !!!! So are you seriously calling Cowboy "the enemy?" Please listen with your hearts this day, folks..... ONLY GOD'S WORD being heard will move and convict and save man...not a false gospel !!! What false gospel are you talking about? |
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Right. All the rest of those so-called "Christian" beliefs are details. I know a lot of "Christians" and each one has their own limited ideas and beliefs. They don't buy 100% everything their church tries to tell them. That does not mean that they are NOT Christians. anyone can claim to be a Christian even Satan, but Satan probably will not follow the rules set by the Catholic Church which would be why Satan wouldn't be a Christian Christianity started with the Jews but because Gentiles wasn't Jews or require to follow Jewish laws or tradition (circumcision would be an example of this ou ou ouchhhhhhhhhhh) is why Christianity entered into Catholicism, and this is why Gentiles that are not Catholic and/or follow the rules set by the Catholic Church...are not Christians |
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