Topic: Theory of everything? Or nothing?
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Tue 01/31/12 11:12 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 01/31/12 11:17 AM
I will be honest I have not read this myself, I am in the process now. I thought this would be fun to kick around a bit.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01/the_comparison_to_jabberwocky.php

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/01/thanks_crwu_for_forcing_me_to_get_the_pa.php#more

Extending upon this RNA research, I recently compiled an incommensurable, trans-disciplinary, neologistical, axiomatic theory of life from quantum gravity to the living cell.


OHHHHH, sounds impressive.

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Tue 01/31/12 11:41 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 01/31/12 11:44 AM
Lunar Formation. The favored hypothesis for the formation of Earth's Moon is from planetesimal impact on a proto-Earth proceeded by matter ejection, accretion, and gravitational capture [189,190]. However, the question of lunar origin has not been settled since there are competing, albeit antiquated hypotheses [191,192]. I also discovered the stunning admission that, "...shamefacedly, [astronomers] have little idea as to where [the Moon] came from. This is particularly embarrassing... [193]." The oxygyre models the Moon as a macroxyon that has a macroelectron within itself; this simple gyrosystem accounts for the known chemical composition of the Moon surface, oxides [194]. Regarding lunar origin, the macroxyon that is the Moon emerges from the macroelectron that is the Earth, concomitant with the emergence of Earth's macroxyon [195,196].

Several additional points can be derived from this gyrosystem. First, the oxygyre explains water on and in the Moon [197-199]. Second, the gyrating effects of the macroxygyre model the rotation of the Moon on its axis. Third, the path of a less exergic macroxyon (Moon) around more exergic one (Earth) follows an ohiogyre path, or lunar orbit. Fourth, this oxygyre provides insight into how tidal cycling is linked to lunar orbit and axial rotation [200] since the Earth's oceans (macroxymatrix) and Moon itself (a macroxyon) exert complementary attractorepulsive forces. Fifth, this theoretical union also helps clarify short-term chronobiological ([201]; see 3.8) and long-term geophysical [202] relationships. Sixth, the craters that cover planetary, lunar, and satellite surfaces [203-205]--most if not all of which are near-perfect circles--bear the signature of the macroelectron singularity and its strong thermodynamic force on the oxygyre [206].
Some pretty spectacular word soup here!

Its even better that he thinks these are explanations.

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Tue 01/31/12 11:45 AM

I will be honest I have not read this myself, I am in the process now. I thought this would be fun to kick around a bit.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01/the_comparison_to_jabberwocky.php

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/01/thanks_crwu_for_forcing_me_to_get_the_pa.php#more

Extending upon this RNA research, I recently compiled an incommensurable, trans-disciplinary, neologistical, axiomatic theory of life from quantum gravity to the living cell.


OHHHHH, sounds impressive.
surprised shocked what

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Tue 01/31/12 11:58 AM
Word soup, indeed. Not only do all of these words sound impressive, the thoughts that they represent ARE impressive, very impressive. Einstein worked on his "theory of everything" until his dying day without ever achieving it.

He didn't think much of quantum physics, a still poorly undrstood branch of physics, but quantum physicists are trying to pick up where Einstein left off. Admittedly it's all mind boggling, but essential in our understanding of ourselves and the universe. Personally, I just hope I live long enough to see sceince achieve a good understaning of gravity.

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Tue 01/31/12 12:12 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 01/31/12 12:29 PM
It is very common to see these, "one solution to all problems" thought processes among cranks of every flavor.

I think what is most surprising is that this particular researcher has never shown signs before.

Oh dear.....

I've always felt that a convenient shortcut to detecting crankery is that many of them feel the need to define new terminology and insist that their theory cannot be understood without the new terminology. I mean, it's fair to invent a new word occasionally, but cranks will redefine half the language. If you feel the need to define a whole new set of vocabulary, clearly you feel you have stumbled upon something totally novel in their history of human thought, and to feel that way requires a great deal of arrogance -- the sort of arrogance that blinds.

Posted by: Calli Arcale | January 30, 2012 12:44 PM
A comment I felt was pretty spot on . .

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Tue 01/31/12 03:44 PM
The oxygyre models the Moon as a macroxyon that has a macroelectron within itself; this simple gyrosystem accounts for the known chemical composition of the Moon surface, oxides [194]. Regarding lunar origin, the macroxyon that is the Moon emerges from the macroelectron that is the Earth, concomitant with the emergence of Earth's macroxyon


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

That was awesome!

I wonder if that's how real science jargon sounds to people with no science education.

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Tue 01/31/12 04:42 PM

The oxygyre models the Moon as a macroxyon that has a macroelectron within itself; this simple gyrosystem accounts for the known chemical composition of the Moon surface, oxides [194]. Regarding lunar origin, the macroxyon that is the Moon emerges from the macroelectron that is the Earth, concomitant with the emergence of Earth's macroxyon


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

That was awesome!

I wonder if that's how real science jargon sounds to people with no science education.


I would bet a macroelectron it is!

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Tue 01/31/12 05:20 PM
laugh drinker

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Tue 01/31/12 06:25 PM
Now we're getting somewhere.

As soon as I saw "preceding" misspelled, I got suspicious of the quality of the person's understanding. And . . . oxygyre? When I put that into Google, I get some hits saying, "The comparison to Jabberwocky is inevitable." laugh Myself, I thought it might be a previously unknown fantastic animal, some combination of a griffin and a facial cleanser.


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Wed 02/01/12 10:52 AM
At first most people thought this was a joke becuase this guy is a good researcher with a promising career ahead of him.

It just makes me wonder what occurs to make a person fall into such . . heck dont even know what words to use . . such delusion I guess.



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Wed 02/01/12 06:24 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 02/01/12 06:25 PM
The press release said:

The earth is alive, asserts a revolutionary scientific theory of life emerging from Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine. The trans-disciplinary theory demonstrates that purportedly inanimate, non-living objects--for example, planets, water, proteins, and DNA--are animate, that is, alive. With its broad explanatory power, applicable to all areas of science and medicine, this novel paradigm aims to catalyze a veritable renaissance.


My questions is, what is so shocking or "wrong" about a theory that the earth and purportedly inanimate objects are animate or alive?

I believe scientists will eventually find that the entire universe is "alive and intelligent." Perhaps not in the same way that they think of man being intelligent and alive, but everything is an exchange of energy and information.

In the bottom of the oceans, the earth spits out living organisms into the sea. No one knows where these living organisms come from. I would say that looks like life to me. It is where all living things on earth seem to have evolved from.

How could living things come from something dead?










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Wed 02/01/12 06:43 PM

My questions is, what is so shocking or "wrong" about a theory that the earth and purportedly inanimate objects are animate or alive?


This response misses the point of the criticism of this guy.

It isn't that animism is shocking or wrong.

He wrote an entire book filled with actual gibberish, and has been earnestly trying to publish it along with papers derived from the book.

He is actively trying to pollute scientific discourse - not with incorrect theories - but with completely unintelligible nonsense while providing absolutely no evidence nor rational for it.

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Wed 02/01/12 06:54 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 02/01/12 06:55 PM


My questions is, what is so shocking or "wrong" about a theory that the earth and purportedly inanimate objects are animate or alive?


This response misses the point of the criticism of this guy.

It isn't that animism is shocking or wrong.

He wrote an entire book filled with actual gibberish, and has been earnestly trying to publish it along with papers derived from the book.

He is actively trying to pollute scientific discourse - not with incorrect theories - but with completely unintelligible nonsense while providing absolutely no evidence nor rational for it.



I agree. His stuff is gibberish.
I think he is trying to sound "scientific."

All the while his overall statement is trying to say that the universe is alive, or that "God" is everything.


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Wed 02/01/12 09:20 PM
See what philosophy does to some people?

laugh

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Wed 02/01/12 10:33 PM

See what philosophy does to some people?

laugh


not really

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Fri 02/10/12 07:33 AM

Now we're getting somewhere.

As soon as I saw "preceding" misspelled, I got suspicious of the quality of the person's understanding. And . . . oxygyre? When I put that into Google, I get some hits saying, "The comparison to Jabberwocky is inevitable." laugh Myself, I thought it might be a previously unknown fantastic animal, some combination of a griffin and a facial cleanser.




Kudos to Bravalady, for standing up and speaking out.

My suspicion was raised with a reference of sub-atomic particles as a system of planetary objects. To draw a similarity is compelling, but not after accepting the Heidelberg view of electrons.

But I would have let it slide, as one can't always argue agaisnt everything. One must choose his battles wisely as to not exhaust himself, as to not divide himself up into too many pieces and bits.

I find it refreshing, though, that here is one topic, on we all agree, with glee. And with Bravalady, of course. There is still someone we trample on, and that is the writer of the quoted article. This shows to me that conflict is an essential part of the mechanism of human motovation, even in its deepest, most basic level.

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Fri 02/10/12 07:41 AM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Fri 02/10/12 08:05 AM


Now we're getting somewhere.

As soon as I saw "preceding" misspelled, I got suspicious of the quality of the person's understanding. And . . . oxygyre? When I put that into Google, I get some hits saying, "The comparison to Jabberwocky is inevitable." laugh Myself, I thought it might be a previously unknown fantastic animal, some combination of a griffin and a facial cleanser.




Kudos to Bravalady, for standing up and speaking out.

My suspicion was raised with a reference of sub-atomic particles as a system of planetary objects. To draw a similarity is compelling, but not after accepting the Heidelberg view of electrons.

But I would have let it slide, as one can't always argue agaisnt everything. One must choose his battles wisely as to not exhaust himself, as to not divide himself up into too many pieces and bits.

I find it refreshing, though, that here is one topic, on we all agree, with glee. And with Bravalady, of course. There is still someone we trample on, and that is the writer of the quoted article. This shows to me that conflict is an essential part of the mechanism of human motovation, even in its deepest, most basic level.
Well I think that is a bit of a generalization in a sense. Even if our motive is to find everything we agree about, ultimately that leads to what we do not agree about, and if then our motivation shifts to trying to understand why we hold different conclusions then we have to dig in to the substance of a thing. When someone essentially creates word soup and tries to be taken seriously it something that needs justification and so does the rebuttals.

All of this can exist without the desire to conflict. Motivation is a highly variable affair, and the behaviors for a given out come can each have different motivations.

For me its less about conflict with this guy and more about supporting real science.

Just as an interesting thought experiment, what would a world without ANY conflict look like?

Not just boring, but unproductive IMHO, stagnant, homogeneous.

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Fri 02/10/12 11:03 PM


Now we're getting somewhere.

As soon as I saw "preceding" misspelled, I got suspicious of the quality of the person's understanding. And . . . oxygyre? When I put that into Google, I get some hits saying, "The comparison to Jabberwocky is inevitable." laugh Myself, I thought it might be a previously unknown fantastic animal, some combination of a griffin and a facial cleanser.




Kudos to Bravalady, for standing up and speaking out.

My suspicion was raised with a reference of sub-atomic particles as a system of planetary objects. To draw a similarity is compelling, but not after accepting the Heidelberg view of electrons.

But I would have let it slide, as one can't always argue agaisnt everything. One must choose his battles wisely as to not exhaust himself, as to not divide himself up into too many pieces and bits.

I find it refreshing, though, that here is one topic, on we all agree, with glee. And with Bravalady, of course. There is still someone we trample on, and that is the writer of the quoted article. This shows to me that conflict is an essential part of the mechanism of human motovation, even in its deepest, most basic level.



Lord of the Flies.